At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 1902, >vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can I >find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in Dublin Regards Anthony

Anthony, Hope your recent trip to this side of the water was fruitful When myself and my brother Joey were at the GRO in september 2005. We had to provide two names to locate and get a copy of my grandparents marriage in 1897. Would what you are saying apply when I apply for certificates for my Great grand parents? Sean Burdock Hastings, east sussex england "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> wrote: At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 1902, >vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can I >find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in Dublin Regards Anthony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sean Burdock

My experience at Dublin's GRO is that you only have to provide the name of one of the participants to a marriage. From their registers, they can then provide you with the name of the other party and all the other relevant details. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

At 10:21 04/08/2007, you wrote: >Anthony, > > Hope your recent trip to this side of the water was fruitful > > When myself and my brother Joey were at the GRO in september > 2005. We had to provide two names to locate and get a copy of my > grandparents marriage in 1897. Would what you are saying apply when > I apply for certificates for my Great grand parents? > Hi Sean, Thanks for your mail, just got back middle of last week. Got caught up in the floods at Oxford but survived with some very minor damage to the underside of the car - we were trying to get back to Oxford which was reasonably dry and got caught at the roundabout that leads to Tewksbury!! Who ever made you give two names at the GRO was acting the goat. If this sort of activity is widespread and continues I will complain to the director and get my fellow researchers to do the same. It is totally unnecessary indeed stupid, because a large number of folk would not know the two names. In the case of postal enquiries it may be that they will claim that there may be multible entries, but this even would be highly unlikely. I will reply to your original query early next week Regards

Lots of traffic on this marriage question. Here are I hope some helpful hints. If you have access to the LDS marriage index and only know one of the names of the couple, and have a year, then you can search by surname and find the party you are looking for. The problem arises when both names are common like a John Murphy, for which there could be multiple entries. But if you know the registration district or recognize the geographic location and can place it in the right county, you can narrow the odds. Ideally, you can find the right one, then you have the YEAR, QUARTER VOLUME & PAGE. That should be sufficient for them to look it up and give you a copy of the marriage certificate. If you are a glutton for punishment, you can find the other name yourself in the index. What you have to do is to look through the entire quarter and find the identical entry for Volume and Page. An onerous task indeed that should not be necessary. The identity of the spouse is indeed useful in finding the right one, especially when there are many entries for the other party. Al Valentine Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery > At 10:21 04/08/2007, you wrote: > >Anthony, > > > > Hope your recent trip to this side of the water was fruitful > > > > When myself and my brother Joey were at the GRO in september > > 2005. We had to provide two names to locate and get a copy of my > > grandparents marriage in 1897. Would what you are saying apply when > > I apply for certificates for my Great grand parents? > > > > Hi Sean, > > Thanks for your mail, just got back middle of last week. Got caught > up in the floods at Oxford but survived with some very minor damage > to the underside of the car - we were trying to get back to Oxford > which was reasonably dry and got caught at the roundabout that leads > to Tewksbury!! > > Who ever made you give two names at the GRO was acting the goat. If > this sort of activity is widespread and continues I will complain to > the director and get my fellow researchers to do the same. It is > totally unnecessary indeed stupid, because a large number of folk > would not know the two names. In the case of postal enquiries it may > be that they will claim that there may be multible entries, but this > even would be highly unlikely. I will reply to your original query > early next week > > Regards > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Anthony Thank you for the advice - this is just the best news -I'll give it a lash! Cheers, Judy in Alberta -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Roche Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 1902, >vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can I >find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in Dublin Regards Anthony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anthony, Thanks for the advice - I ordered the certificate and it came last week - no problems with just the one name! Cheers, Judy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Roche Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 1902, >vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can I >find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in Dublin Regards Anthony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message