That is very interesting. Thanks! We have learned something new - at least I have. Christina Anne C Fullam Goeke wrote: > I've come across many records from the early Middle Ages in Dublin that > were in French and English.Sept is seven in French.

I've come across many records from the early Middle Ages in Dublin that were in French and English. Sept is seven in French. On Sun, 20 May 2012 08:47:08 -0400, Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Joyce. I figured it was something like that, but my quick count > brought me to July, so I gave up. > :) > Chris > > Joyce wrote: >> "7ber" was, most likely, an abbreviation for September, as in 1635 >> September >> was the 7th month of the year. >> Joyce >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Anne Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

"7ber" was, most likely, an abbreviation for September, as in 1635 September was the 7th month of the year. Joyce > Patrick MALPAS of Dublin Aldern. departed this mortall > Life the 8th of 7ber and was buried in the Church of St. > Audeons in Dublin the 12th of ye same month 1635 he had to >

Thanks Joyce. I figured it was something like that, but my quick count brought me to July, so I gave up. :) Chris Joyce wrote: > "7ber" was, most likely, an abbreviation for September, as in 1635 September > was the 7th month of the year. > Joyce > >

Patrick MALPAS of Dublin Aldern. departed this mortall Life the 8th of 7ber and was buried in the Church of St. Audeons in Dublin the 12th of ye same month 1635 he had to Wife Elizabeth Daughr. of John ARTHUR of Dublin Aldern. and sometime Mayor by whom he had issue Ignatius MALPAS. Fances, Ales marrid to John STANLY fitz Edward of Dublin Mercht. Mary Elinor and Katherin. The truith of the premisses is testified by the Subscripn. of Christopher MALPAS of Dublin Mercht. Taken pr. me Albon Leverett Ath : officer of Armes to be recordd. in the office of Ulster King of Armes of Ireland. Christopher MALPAS Spelling & punctuation as in the text of the page. (eg. Aldern. = Alderman) It did say 7ber. Have never run into that. :) Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910

Elenor daughter of H. HANCOCK of Dublin Gent. She was married to Richard NUGENT of Dublin Merchant by whom She had issue George NUGENT, Mary NUGENT mar. to James QUAYTROD of Dublin Merchant, she had many othr Children but died young the abovesaid Elenore NUGENT departed this mortall Life the 9th of June 1638. She is buried at St Johns Church in Dublin the 12 of the afforesaid Month ye truth of the premisses is testified by ye Subscription of her Sonn George NUGENT afforesaid taken by me Albon LEVERET Athlone officer of Armes to bo recorded in the Office of the King of Armes. George NUGENT. Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 Christina

Jacob NEWMAN of Dublin Gent. descended of the NEWMANS of Kent departed this mortall Life the 5th of January 1634 and was buried the 9th of the afforesaid Month in the Church of St Johns Dublin he had to his firs Wife Margaret Daught of _____ he had to his 2d Wife Rose Daughr of James BARRY Aldermn of Dublin by whom he had issue John NEWMAN married to Jane Dr of Walter VELDON of Athy Esqr Elizabeth married to Sr James WARE Knight, Mary marryed to Thomas VELDON Sonn and Heir of the afforesaid Walter VELDON. The truth of the premisses is testified by the Subscription of John NEWMAN Son and Heir of Jacob NEWMAN deceased, taken by Mr Albon LEVERET Athlone officer of Armes to be recordd in the King of Armes office in Ireland. John NEWMAN Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 [The text of the document lacks punctuation] Christina

James BELLEWE sometime Sheriff of Dublin departed this mortal life the 13th of February 1635 and was buried the 18th of the Month in St James Church Yard near Dublin, he had to Wife Mary daughter of John CHAPMAN Gent by whom he had issue 3 Sons and a Daughter Viz. Arthur, Edward, Lawrence, and Alson BELLEWE, the truith of the premisses is testified by the Subscription of Arthur BELLEWE aforesaid his Son and heir. Taken by me Albon LEVERETT Athlone officer of Armes to be Recordd in the office of the King of Armes of Ireland. Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 I copied some of these today. I hope someone is doing the 1600's. :) Christina

I have spent years trying to find anything on William Boss. The only lead to origin in Dublin for him is the 1901 census where he was in Liverpool England. It lists his place of birth as Dublin Ireland. What is known is that he was born about 1849 and died in 1935 in Liverpool. He spent his life in various jobs as a mariner. The family has remembered him as the 'Irish Grandfather'. On the record of his marriage on February 28, 1874 in Liverpool to an Ellen (O'Brien) Gansitt , a widow, he lists his father as John Boss. The marriage took place in St Anthony's Catholic Church. His wife was from Irish stock even though she had been born in England.  I have checked Griffiths Evaluation and no luck, also no luck searching many of the pay sites. I have really hit the wall on this great grandfather. Any idea's or thought's? Unfortunately he is only listed on the 1901 census. He is shown on the 1881 census as at sea and not even shown on the 1891 census. I have no idea about the 1911, 1921 and 1931 census's.  Bob

Michelle, The info we have on William is: Service no. 7314 FARLEY, Willm Age: 18 6-Mar From or born: Dublin Protestant Occupation: Lab Sent to: Clare; Cork E I see in the 1801 City Directory that there was a: *Farley Bartholomew, Jeweller, 17, Crow Street http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/dir.htm I also tried the old age pension website for Farley + Dublin http://www.ireland-genealogy.com/ The pensions sometimes used the 1841 or 1851 census for proof. They were still in existence in the early 1900's when people applied for these Old Age Pensions. There were three Farleys: Applicants Name : Michael FARLEY County : Dublin Applicants Name : Catherine FARLEY County : Dublin Applicants Name : Margaret NUGENT County : Dublin It is £2.00 to see a record. I don't know if any of these mean anything to you. Sorry I don't have more. Christina Michelle Wilson wrote: > Is there anyway I can get more information about one of the men in the list? > I think William Farley may be related. My 3x gr. grandparents (Thomas > Farley, watchmaker and Emma Magee, Milliner) of Dublin were married in 1820 > and although I know they had several children I could only find any > information for Charles Thomas, Henry, and Emily. But Charles named one of > his children William as did Henry so I feel this William may have been > Charles and Henry's brother and their children's uncle. I would like to > find who his parents were. > > Thank You > Michelle

Is there anyway I can get more information about one of the men in the list? I think William Farley may be related. My 3x gr. grandparents (Thomas Farley, watchmaker and Emma Magee, Milliner) of Dublin were married in 1820 and although I know they had several children I could only find any information for Charles Thomas, Henry, and Emily. But Charles named one of his children William as did Henry so I feel this William may have been Charles and Henry's brother and their children's uncle. I would like to find who his parents were. Thank You Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Finn Hunt" <chrisnina@gmail.com> To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: [DUBLIN-CITY] More RIC men > When the 1846 Royal Irish Constabulary men were transcribed, it turned > out the some of them were on another film. > We have now gotten that film and Richard Leonard has transcribed the > rest of the information. > > These are all the 1846 names: > ADAIR, James > BRANAGAN, Robert > CROKER, John > FOX, John > FARLEY, William > KENNERNEY, William > MILLER, Henry > MERCER, John > MORRIS, Michael > NOLAN, John > RYAN, Timothy > ROBINSON, William > SUTTON, Anthony > WELWOOD, Robert > WHEALY, William > > If anyone is of interest - you can check them out at: > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/index.htm > > Christina > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > =============================== > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When the 1846 Royal Irish Constabulary men were transcribed, it turned out the some of them were on another film. We have now gotten that film and Richard Leonard has transcribed the rest of the information. These are all the 1846 names: ADAIR, James BRANAGAN, Robert CROKER, John FOX, John FARLEY, William KENNERNEY, William MILLER, Henry MERCER, John MORRIS, Michael NOLAN, John RYAN, Timothy ROBINSON, William SUTTON, Anthony WELWOOD, Robert WHEALY, William If anyone is of interest - you can check them out at: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/index.htm Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ ===============================

I was reading a bit online and came across a blog I hadn't seen called "Free Irish Genealogy E-Books". Maybe I am the last to see it. The blog pulls together free digitized books related to Irish Genealogy. It takes a bit of work to look through these, but so does a library. http://freeirishgenebooks.blogspot.com/ I found this mentioned on the blog by Deborah Large Fox called "Help! The Faerie Folk hid my Ancestors". Also a neat blog about Irish Research. http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com/ It is really nice that so many "classic" books about Ireland and Irish Genealogy are being put online. Christina

hi Gillian, I've had a look on irishgenealogy.ie and there's no listing for your Carmichael family. Have you looked in Familysearch.org Good luck with your research Regards Marion Sydney Sent from Marion's IPad On 13/05/2012, at 7:27 PM, "Gillian Betton" <gillie.betton@btopenworld.com> wrote: > Hallo, > > I am new to this list and although researched for a good few years, now I > have a brick wall in Ireland and I have no experience of research through > Irish records and do not know where to start. > > I would appreciate some help to find the name of the French lady who Hugh > Richard CARMICHAEL married between 1830 and 1835 if the dates of his > children are anything to go by. > > He was a Surgeon and after qualifying, started his professional like in the > army, based in France where he married (?). He returned to Ireland and made > a name for himself in the field of child birth and female diseases. > > He had 4 children, > > > > > i) Hugh CARMICHAEL b.1835 Dublin > > > > > > > > > > ii) Helen Antoinette Marie CARMICHAEL b.1837 Dublin > > > > iii) Marguerite CARMICHAEL b.1840 Dublin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iv) Elizabeth Hope CARMICHAEKL b. 1846 Dublin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > Gillie1302 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Marion. -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marion Sent: 13 May 2012 23:14 To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Hugh Richard CAMICHAEL 1790 - 1872 hi Gillian, I've had a look on irishgenealogy.ie and there's no listing for your Carmichael family. Have you looked in Familysearch.org Good luck with your research Regards Marion Sydney

Thanks for this Nivard. This is as far as I have been able to find, but you have also answered my question. Regards. Jeannette -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012 12:12 a.m. To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage certificate query Hi Jeanette This is long before civil registration so there will be no marriage certificate as such The marriage appears on http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1881e90570411 Unfortunately the register its been transcribed from is not yet scanned The transcript reads :- Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PETER Marriage of GEORGE COOKE of RATHGAR ROAD and MARIA JANE WOLSELEY of BELLVILLE ST AVENUE PARISH OF KATHFARNHAY on 5 September 1838 Back to search results New search Name Location Datee.g. 13/08/1710 More search options Husband Wife Name GEORGE COOKE MARIA JANE WOLSELEY Address RATHGAR ROAD BELLVILLE ST AVENUE PARISH OF KATHFARNHAY Occupation ESQUIRE SPINSTER Father COOKE WOLSELEY Mother N/R N/R Further details in the record Witness 1 JOHN WEBB WILLIAM Witness 2 JOHN WOLSELEY About the record Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier N/R N/R N/R DU-CI-MA-51075 The information above may be all there is recorded but you would of course be best to see the original I am sure others will tell you the best method of obtaining a copy Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >A query please. I would like to obtain a full marriage certificate for >George Randall COOKE and Maria Jane WOLSELEY, who were married in 1838 >in the Church of Ireland Parish of St Peters, Dublin. Could someone >please tell me what information would be listed on this certificate, >eg dob, parents names, etc. > > Many thanks. > > Jeannette Cooke > Timaru, New Zealand ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A query please. I would like to obtain a full marriage certificate for George Randall COOKE and Maria Jane WOLSELEY, who were married in 1838 in the Church of Ireland Parish of St Peters, Dublin. Could someone please tell me what information would be listed on this certificate, eg dob, parents names, etc. Many thanks. Jeannette Cooke Timaru, New Zealand

Have you considered she may have been a nurse or a Doctor and was returning to Jerusalem - Well she must have returned petal, to pass away in Dublin, speculation without facts is not the way to go, Joyce advice to you is worth following through on, but being on a US Government ship does not make her a cloak and dagger girl, perhaps she was a matron even, write to the Hospital and ask, they surely remember this woman after all 100 years is a wonderful age to reach, may we all have that pleasure some day. Regards Cara -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of alison moyra - BT Total Broadband email account Sent: 13 May 2012 18:48 To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUBLIN-CITY] Stella DOWSE Hello Cara Had actually seen this - and I gave them some info about her brothers - BUT I hadn't spotted the hospital bit....so she may have been working at the hospital? That's very possible. Especially with the body donation. That's new to me. However as you may have found, there's nothing else online about that.... So a) how to find out any more? and b) Why would she go to Jerusalem after the war? It doesn't seem a good time to be going there, a lot of upheaval just before the establishment of Israel, and she went on a US government ship...... Also I don't know when she came back. The hospital: "Founded in 1917 it was originally a "hospital sanatorium" for the care of "officers or men of His Majesty's Navy and Army"." "The hospital continued to operate for more than 50 years caring for ex-service personnel." Maybe this is a place to start...I have their email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: <irl-dublin-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:00 AM Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 83 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Stella DOWSE (alison moyra - BT Total Broadband email account) > 2. Re: Stella DOWSE (Cara) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 06:52:36 +0100 > From: "alison moyra - BT Total Broadband email account" > <alison.moyra@btinternet.com> > Subject: [DUBLIN-CITY] Stella DOWSE > To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <AE48144FDE764580852677F97DD0279E@HP1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello there. > I have a new mystery. I found, on 'New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957' in > Ancestry, a record of my father's cousin Stella DOWSE, in 1947, going to > Jerusalem from the US. On the 'Marine Carp' an American government ship at > the time. > Definitely her, as the address and next of kin (Florence Dowse, nee > Andrews) is just visible on the original. > > She was born in 1908 and lived at 5, Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin, all > her life, dying only in 2008 at nearly 100. > We have some vague family stories of her hush WWII work, but then a lot of > things were 'hush' at the time - but what was this trip about? I know very > little about her life or work, she's down as a governess on this record, > but this seems a bit unlikely to both me and my sister. > > - any ideas, anyone? - Alison > > Looking for LITTLE, ANDREWS, MEMERY, BIRMINGHAM/BERMINGHAM in Dublin > - esp. John ANDREWS b about 1820, pawnbroker. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 16:17:18 +1000 > From: "Cara" <cara_links@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Stella DOWSE > To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0CE024C8EF5D4371B75C8D618616D18D@ColmTOSH> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > http://notices.irishtimes.com/2410402 > > Will give you her death notice > > > The death has occurred of Stella DOWSE of Leopardstown Park Hospital and > Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin > > Stella donated her body for the purpose of medical science. A Memorial > Service will be held in Holy Trinity Church, Killiney on Sunday next, > April > 13, 2008 at 12 noon. > > > The heading on this suggests perhaps that Stella was with the Hospital is > this so? > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=78249788 > > Lovely lot of information on the family at this site. > > Cheers > C > > > Date published: Friday, April 11, 2008 > Date of death: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4995 - Release Date: 05/12/12 > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 83 > ********************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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Oh, well every answer teaches me something so thank you. Gillian -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 13 May 2012 15:48 To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Hugh Richard CAMICHAEL 1790 - 1872 Sorry that should say Registration of births only started in 1864 *in Ireland* I am afraid Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Gillian > > Sorry to be the bearer of further bad news but I think you are thinking of Civil registration > starting in 1837 in England & Wales > > Registration of births only started in 1864 I am afraid ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://notices.irishtimes.com/2410402 Will give you her death notice The death has occurred of Stella DOWSE of Leopardstown Park Hospital and Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin Stella donated her body for the purpose of medical science. A Memorial Service will be held in Holy Trinity Church, Killiney on Sunday next, April 13, 2008 at 12 noon. The heading on this suggests perhaps that Stella was with the Hospital is this so? http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=78249788 Lovely lot of information on the family at this site. Cheers C Date published: Friday, April 11, 2008 Date of death: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of alison moyra - BT Total Broadband email account Sent: 13 May 2012 15:53 To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUBLIN-CITY] Stella DOWSE Hello there. I have a new mystery. I found, on 'New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957' in Ancestry, a record of my father's cousin Stella DOWSE, in 1947, going to Jerusalem from the US. On the 'Marine Carp' an American government ship at the time. Definitely her, as the address and next of kin (Florence Dowse, nee Andrews) is just visible on the original. She was born in 1908 and lived at 5, Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin, all her life, dying only in 2008 at nearly 100. We have some vague family stories of her hush WWII work, but then a lot of things were 'hush' at the time - but what was this trip about? I know very little about her life or work, she's down as a governess on this record, but this seems a bit unlikely to both me and my sister. - any ideas, anyone? - Alison Looking for LITTLE, ANDREWS, MEMERY, BIRMINGHAM/BERMINGHAM in Dublin - esp. John ANDREWS b about 1820, pawnbroker. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4995 - Release Date: 05/12/12