Today is Father's Day in Ireland. Seeing the Father's Day wishes, made me think it would be nice to remember the father, grandfather, great-grandfather or GGgrandfather who left Ireland. Maybe his name and something you know about him. Happy Father's Day! Christina ===============================

Shelagh I should manage to call at Deansgrange during the week ahead. I have noted his date of death from your first note to the List - I need that in order to ask if buried at Deansgrange. In the meantime keep your fingers crossed!! Joyce Joyce. That would be great - thank you. I had looked at Glasnevin but couldn't find anything. He was a Catholic and the story I have is that he went back to Ireland and worked as a Gardener for a convent in Dublin. I found a Patrick's death that fitted his age and received the cert today. It gives his occupation as Gardener and he was Gate Lodge Srs. Charity Donnybrook. He was born in Ferns Wexford 1874 went to Dublin and then joined the Welsh Constabulary in 1896(one of 5 brothers doing so)married in 1908 retired from the Police in October 1922 then as my first line. I've found all the other 4 deaths - 1 in Dublin Edward in 1954 and in Glasnevin Cemetery so would like to find Patrick. Thanks again. Shelagh.

Christina.   Many thanks for your reply - but not my family.  Please see my reply to Joyce for details. Thanks again Shelagh. ________________________________ From: Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 16 June 2012, 16:40 Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Patrick Clinch Not quite what you asked, but I found a birth: Name:     Patrick Clinch Gender:     Male Birth Date:     19 Aug 1875 Birth Place:     Rathfarnham, Dub, Ireland Baptism Place:     Rathfarnham, Dub, Ireland Father's Name:     John Clinch Mother's name:     Mary Russell Do you know the names of any children? Christina Shelagh O'Neill wrote: > I'm trying to find the burial place of Patrick Clinch who passed away November 23 1940 St.Vincents' Hospital from Gate Lodge Sisters of Charity Donnybrook age 66 and a gardener.  Also the church where his requiem might have been celebrated.  Does anyone know the name of his wife please|?    Help gratefully received. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joyce. That would be great - thank you.  I had looked at Glasnevin but couldn't find anything.  He was a Catholic and the story I have is that he went back to Ireland and worked as a Gardener for a convent in Dublin. I found a Patrick's death that fitted his age and received the cert today.  It gives his occupation as Gardener and he was Gate Lodge Srs. Charity Donnybrook.    He was born in Ferns Wexford 1874 went to Dublin and then joined the Welsh Constabulary in 1896(one of 5 brothers doing so)married in 1908 retired from the Police in October 1922 then as my first line.  I've found all the other 4 deaths - 1 in Dublin Edward in 1954 and in Glasnevin Cemetery so would like to find Patrick. Thanks again.  Shelagh. ________________________________ From: Joyce <joytun@utvinternet.com> To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 16 June 2012, 18:30 Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Patrick Clinch Shelagh Patrick Clinch might have been buried at Deansgrange Cemetery.  Would you like me to ask when next at the cemetery?  I checked Glasnevin Cemetery online, and he doesn't appear to be buried there. You don't mention Patrick's religion, but there are both Catholic and Church of Ireland Churches in Donnybrook. Joyce > I'm trying to find the burial place of Patrick Clinch who passed away > November 23 1940 St.Vincents' Hospital from Gate Lodge Sisters of Charity > Donnybrook age 66 and a gardener.  Also the church where his requiem might > have been celebrated.  Does anyone know the name of his wife please|? > Help gratefully received. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shelagh Patrick Clinch might have been buried at Deansgrange Cemetery. Would you like me to ask when next at the cemetery? I checked Glasnevin Cemetery online, and he doesn't appear to be buried there. You don't mention Patrick's religion, but there are both Catholic and Church of Ireland Churches in Donnybrook. Joyce > I'm trying to find the burial place of Patrick Clinch who passed away > November 23 1940 St.Vincents' Hospital from Gate Lodge Sisters of Charity > Donnybrook age 66 and a gardener. Also the church where his requiem might > have been celebrated. Does anyone know the name of his wife please|? > Help gratefully received. > >

I'm trying to find the burial place of Patrick Clinch who passed away November 23 1940 St.Vincents' Hospital from Gate Lodge Sisters of Charity Donnybrook age 66 and a gardener. Also the church where his requiem might have been celebrated. Does anyone know the name of his wife please|? Help gratefully received.

I see. Wexford not Dublin. Ah well. Chris SHELAGH ONEILL wrote: > Christina. > > Many thanks for your reply - but not my family. Please see my reply to Joyce for details. > Thanks again > Shelagh. > ________________________________ > From: Christina Hunt<chrisnina@gmail.com> > To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 16 June 2012, 16:40 > Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Patrick Clinch > > Not quite what you asked, but I found a birth: > > Name: Patrick Clinch > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 19 Aug 1875 > Birth Place: Rathfarnham, Dub, Ireland > Baptism Place: Rathfarnham, Dub, Ireland > Father's Name: John Clinch > Mother's name: Mary Russell > > Do you know the names of any children? > > Christina

Not quite what you asked, but I found a birth: Name: Patrick Clinch Gender: Male Birth Date: 19 Aug 1875 Birth Place: Rathfarnham, Dub, Ireland Baptism Place: Rathfarnham, Dub, Ireland Father's Name: John Clinch Mother's name: Mary Russell Do you know the names of any children? Christina Shelagh O'Neill wrote: > I'm trying to find the burial place of Patrick Clinch who passed away November 23 1940 St.Vincents' Hospital from Gate Lodge Sisters of Charity Donnybrook age 66 and a gardener. Also the church where his requiem might have been celebrated. Does anyone know the name of his wife please|? Help gratefully received. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary Daughtr of Richard BARRY Aldermn and Sometime Mayor of Dublin departed this mortall Life in Childbed the 5th of Apr 1635 and was buried in the Chathedrall Church of Christ Church of the Blessed Trinyty Apr the 8th following, she was married to James. DONALAN Chief Justice of the Province of Connought; the aforsd Mary had issue by James DONALAN Chief Justice 4 Sons and 2 Daughters Viz. James DONALAN, John, Edmond, and Richard DONALAN, Elizabeth and Ann DONALAN. The truith of the premisses is testified by the Subscription of James DONALAN Chief Justice aforesd Taken by me Albon Leveret officer of Armes to be recordd in the off: of the King of Armes of Ireland. Ja: DONELAN. (spelling as per document) Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 ------ Christina

Thank you for this information Christine - kind of you and very useful as I have only recently started to do research in Ireland. Gillie -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christina Hunt Sent: 11 June 2012 16:14 To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] marriage certificate Gillian, You can print of a form to get a cert here: http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm The address is on the forms you will print out. I request a photocopy. It is the cheapest way to get a cert. If you have the reference it will help them find what you want. You can send them a credit card number. I am ordering today and my husband got a "shop safe" number to use from our credit card company. A lot of banks do this now for safer online shopping. We put enough to cover the Euros with a little extra in case of change. They don't take checks unless drawn on an Irish bank. Just put in Euro exchange rate into a Google search. There are a lot of sites where you can get a conversion done. It was abt 1.25 Euros to a dollar yesterday. Regards, Christina Gillian Betton wrote: > Could someone please give me the address of the place in Ireland to apply > for certificates and also, if there is an appropriate form online to > download and print off. > Does one need the reference and are they prepared to search the usual 3 year > if given a mid point? How much in Euros? > Gillie1302 > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Coghlan > Sent: 11 June 2012 11:51 > To: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY@rootsweb.com > if youre looking for mothers information it would be worth getting the > certificate anyway. Often a member of the brides mothers side will act as a > witness and that will give you two more names to check out. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone please give me the address of the place in Ireland to apply for certificates and also, if there is an appropriate form online to download and print off. Does one need the reference and are they prepared to search the usual 3 year if given a mid point? How much in Euros? Gillie1302 -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Coghlan Sent: 11 June 2012 11:51 To: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUBLIN-CITY] marriage certificate if youre looking for mothers information it would be worth getting the certificate anyway. Often a member of the brides mothers side will act as a witness and that will give you two more names to check out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Jenette - very useful information, but wasn't quite the answer I wanted! Regards Jeannette -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jennette Gest Sent: Monday, 11 June 2012 2:22 p.m. To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Funeral Entry MASTERSON - 1634 Hi Jeannette only the father's name would be there. Jennette Gest Qld Aus -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeannette Cooke" <cooke.pj.jm@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:22 AM To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Funeral Entry MASTERSON - 1634 > Could someone please advise: On an Irish Marriage Certificate, would > the name of the parents of the bride and groom be included. The > marriage was possibly 1938 in Dublin. > > Many thanks. > > Jeannette Cooke > New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone please advise: On an Irish Marriage Certificate, would the name of the parents of the bride and groom be included. The marriage was possibly 1938 in Dublin. Many thanks. Jeannette Cooke New Zealand ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jeannette only the father's name would be there. Jennette Gest Qld Aus -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeannette Cooke" <cooke.pj.jm@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:22 AM To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Funeral Entry MASTERSON - 1634 > Could someone please advise: On an Irish Marriage Certificate, would the > name of the parents of the bride and groom be included. The marriage was > possibly 1938 in Dublin. > > Many thanks. > > Jeannette Cooke > New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

if youre looking for mothers information it would be worth getting the certificate anyway. Often a member of the brides mothers side will act as a witness and that will give you two more names to check out.

Gillian, You can print of a form to get a cert here: http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm The address is on the forms you will print out. I request a photocopy. It is the cheapest way to get a cert. If you have the reference it will help them find what you want. You can send them a credit card number. I am ordering today and my husband got a "shop safe" number to use from our credit card company. A lot of banks do this now for safer online shopping. We put enough to cover the Euros with a little extra in case of change. They don't take checks unless drawn on an Irish bank. Just put in Euro exchange rate into a Google search. There are a lot of sites where you can get a conversion done. It was abt 1.25 Euros to a dollar yesterday. Regards, Christina Gillian Betton wrote: > Could someone please give me the address of the place in Ireland to apply > for certificates and also, if there is an appropriate form online to > download and print off. > Does one need the reference and are they prepared to search the usual 3 year > if given a mid point? How much in Euros? > Gillie1302 > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Coghlan > Sent: 11 June 2012 11:51 > To: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY@rootsweb.com > if youre looking for mothers information it would be worth getting the > certificate anyway. Often a member of the brides mothers side will act as a > witness and that will give you two more names to check out. >

Lawrence MASTERSON of Rosminocke in the Com of Waxford Esqr. eldest Son of John MAISTERSON of the same Esqr. eldest Son of Sr. Richard MAISTERSON of Ferns Knt. departed this morll. Life at London ye 21 of 7br 1634 and was Interr'd in the St. Clemments danes in the Strand he was never marrd. The truith of ye premisses is testified by Thomas MAISTERSON Esqr. Brother and next Heir of the Sd. Lawrence who hath Subscribd. unto this Certifficate Thaken by me Thomas PRESTON Ulster King of Armes to be recordd. in my office this 7th of July 1638. Thom MAISTERSON. Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 --------- Christina

Margarett daughter of Edmond MALONE sometime Alderman of Dublin Departed this mortll. life the 11th of June and was buried ye 14th/ 1636 she was mard. to Paul TURNER Son and Heir of Wm. TURNER aldn. of Dub: by whom She had no issue. The truith of ye premisses is testifyed by the Subscription of Paul TURNER Taken by Albon Leverett Ath: officer of Armes to be recordd. in ye off. of ye King of Armes of Ireland Paul TURNOR Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 --------- Christina

Hi all As some will be aware, Ancestry recently added to their Probate Calendars for wills & administrations for England & Wales which now cover 1858 to 1966 Many people had assets in England but lived elsewhere, many lived in or had wills proved in Dublin A simple keyword search of the Calendars for Dublin Ireland finds 33,739 hits Three examples (using County Tyrone) ================= Probate Calendars 1874 (Ancestry) BARR Charles 11 May Probate of the Will of Charles Barr late of Killadroy in the County of Tyrone Carpenter who died on or about 6 March 1874 at Killadroy granted 28 April 1874 at Londonderry to William Barr and John Barr both of Killadroy Farmers the Executors Effects in England under £450 ================= Probate Calendars 1917 (Ancestry) ACHESON Vincent Andrews of Castlecaulfield county Tyrone captain 6th battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers died 10 September 1915 in Servia or Greece on active service Probate Dublin to Agnes Acheson widow Effects £179 2s 9d in England Sealed London 1 February ================= Probate Calendars 1953 (Ancestry) ALCORN Armer of Aldersyde Dromore road Omagh county Tyrone died 6 August 1952 at Tyrone County Hospital Omagh Probate Londonderry to Marion Alcorn widow Beatrice Marion Luke and Annie Irene Vivienne Prettejohn married women and Theadore Coulter accountant Effects £1466 1s 10d in England Sealed London 28 February ================= As you can see the Calendar entry is very useful itself even without obtaining the will A keyword search for just Ireland gets 121,210 hits -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Nivard, I found a death date for a former Englishman who had emigrated to America in the early 1900's. He left a small bequest to a sister still in England. I hadn't found his death date in U.S. records up until this came up. I was quite surprised to find it. Thanks for mentioning looking for Ireland in the Wills for England. Definitely worth checking out. Christina Nivard Ovington wrote: > As some will be aware, Ancestry recently added to their Probate > Calendars for wills& administrations for England& Wales which now > cover 1858 to 1966 > Many people had assets in England but lived elsewhere, many lived in or > had wills proved in Dublin > A simple keyword search of the Calendars for Dublin Ireland finds 33,739 > hits <snip>