sometimes the requirement for three banns was dispensed with due to the bridegroom going off to war, the couple emigrating, etc. On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:53:08 -0400, Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > Joyce, > This is what I think too. Anytime I have checked on an apparent > dispensation it > has turned out that the marriage had a dispensation because the Banns > were not > called 3x due to a church holiday looming. No marriages took place at > certain > times like Lent?. I would check the date and check the Church season for > the > date falls into. > I gather 3 Banns were sometime dispensed with due to pregnancy as well. > > Chris > > > Joyce wrote: >> Christina, great idea making the snippet available for all to see. As >> with >> others. I have not been able to find a translation. As the words come >> under the heading "Denunciationes", could it possibly be a reference to >> Banns having been called three times? Only a thought. >> Joyce >> >> >> >>> Here is Colette's record snippet" >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8609334/civil/marriage_rec.JPG >>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Anne Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

According to an online translation site: Tres could mean three. Disp could come from either: dispono : to arrange, put in order, draw up (troops); disputatio : debate, dispute, discussion. Cheers. Jeannette -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of colette o rorke Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:43 p.m. To: Dublin City list; dublin tracing your roots Subject: [DUBLIN-CITY] "TRES DISP." Anybody know what these Latin words mean (ref an RC marriage cert)? Hi List Hope somebody can help with the above question. Colette ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Disp is possibly dispensation. Were they related or was one not a Catholic? Brenda, Melbourne. On 21/06/2012, at 10:43 AM, colette o rorke <cmcororke@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi List Hope somebody can help with the above question. > > Colette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Colette could the E be the old way of writing & (and) ? Is it possible to see the whole certificate and check how the scribe has written his letters? Ann Marie

Hi. Tres = Three. As we don't know what disp was the shortened version of, here's a few examples; dispensati = dispensation granted. Dispensatus=date + record no. may be included. Disponsationis=permission. Maggie

Christina, great idea making the snippet available for all to see. As with others. I have not been able to find a translation. As the words come under the heading "Denunciationes", could it possibly be a reference to Banns having been called three times? Only a thought. Joyce > Here is Colette's record snippet" > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8609334/civil/marriage_rec.JPG > > Christina > >>

Joyce, This is what I think too. Anytime I have checked on an apparent dispensation it has turned out that the marriage had a dispensation because the Banns were not called 3x due to a church holiday looming. No marriages took place at certain times like Lent?. I would check the date and check the Church season for the date falls into. I gather 3 Banns were sometime dispensed with due to pregnancy as well. Chris Joyce wrote: > Christina, great idea making the snippet available for all to see. As with > others. I have not been able to find a translation. As the words come > under the heading "Denunciationes", could it possibly be a reference to > Banns having been called three times? Only a thought. > Joyce > > > >> Here is Colette's record snippet" >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8609334/civil/marriage_rec.JPG >>

Hi List Hope somebody can help with the above question. Colette

Here is Colette's record snippet" http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8609334/civil/marriage_rec.JPG Christina > Hi List Hope somebody can help with the above question. > > Colette > >

Edmond MALONE of Dublin Aldermn. Departed this mortl. Life the 13th of 7ber and was Intere'd in St Audeons Church ye 14th of the same month 1635 he had to Wife Margarett Daughter of Richard USSHER of Cromlin Esqr. by whom he had issue William MALONE his on!y Son and heir who hath to Wife Elizabeth Daughter of Thomas CONRAN of Wananstown in the Com. Dublin Esqr Mary marry'd to Walter CONRAN. of Dublin Mercht. Elizabeth married to David BEGG sometime Sheriff of Dublin. Frances marrd. to Richd. DILLON of Clonebrock in the Com. Gallway Esqr. Elinor MALONE a Nun, Margarett marrd. to Paul TURNER son and heir to William TURNER of Dublin Aldern. Bridgett and Joan MALONE as yett unmard. The truith of the premisses is testified by the Subscrin. of The afore Sd. Wm MALONE taken by me Albon LEVERETT Ath. officer of Armes to be record. in the office of the King of Arms of Ireland Wm. MALONE (Com. = Comitatus or County) Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 ----------- Christina

Hi all, Is there anyone on this list who knows of any Heeney's in Balbriggan or Skerries? The family worked at the Milverton Stone Quarry and Michael Heeney was a builder in both towns. He built the Carnegy library. I'm trying to find information on the Heeney, Duhamel, Shanley, Shiels, Martin and Lusk families. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much! Joyce -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-request <irl-dublin-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: irl-dublin-city <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 3:26 am Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 108 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Patrick Clinch (Joyce) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:20:47 +0100 rom: "Joyce" <joytun@utvinternet.com> ubject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Patrick Clinch o: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <8B774574C1AD40F394703B1F64362733@DHJQH92J> ontent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original A Photo of the Headstone and inscription for PATRICK CLINCH who died 23 ovember 1940 can be found on IGP Archives at ttp://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/deansgrange-ndx.htm You will find both the Photo and the Inscription in Part 9, St.Patrick's ection, Deansgrange (at No.1261) and it reads as follows: No.1261 n Loving Memory | of | PATRICK CLINCH | Late of Donnybrook | who died 23rd ovember 1940 | May he rest in peace | Also his son | JOHN F. CLINCH | who ied 11th July 1956 | and his wife | ANNIE CLINCH | who died 5th Feby. 1962 Erected by his loving wife and son. Joyce (Tunstead) He was a Catholic and the story I have is that he went back to Ireland and worked as a Gardener for a convent in Dublin. I found a Patrick's death that fitted his age and received the cert today. It gives his occupation as Gardener and he was Gate Lodge Srs. Charity Donnybrook. ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to RL-DUBLIN-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to RL-DUBLIN-CITY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com ith the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of he mail with no additional text. nd of IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 108 **********************************************

Christine Moran has contributed another set of transcribed photos for Deansgrange. This is: Deansgrange Cemetery, St. Patrick's Section, part 13 (93 photos). If you are interested - you may want to look at the text file or check tomorrow when our search engine should have picked up the names. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/deansgrange-ndx.htm Sadly we are losing Christine's help. She is moving further from Deansgrange. If anyone would like to help Joyce with this very large cemetery, I know she would love the assistance. :) Thanks! Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ ===============================

A Photo of the Headstone and inscription for PATRICK CLINCH who died 23 November 1940 can be found on IGP Archives at http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/deansgrange-ndx.htm You will find both the Photo and the Inscription in Part 9, St.Patrick's Section, Deansgrange (at No.1261) and it reads as follows: No.1261 In Loving Memory | of | PATRICK CLINCH | Late of Donnybrook | who died 23rd November 1940 | May he rest in peace | Also his son | JOHN F. CLINCH | who died 11th July 1956 | and his wife | ANNIE CLINCH | who died 5th Feby. 1962 | Erected by his loving wife and son. Joyce (Tunstead) He was a Catholic and the story I have is that he went back to > Ireland and worked as a Gardener for a convent in Dublin. I found a > Patrick's death that fitted his age and received the cert today. It gives > his occupation as Gardener and he was Gate Lodge Srs. Charity Donnybrook.

I have a great great grandfather, Thomas Mitchell, born around 1819 in Bovevagh, Co Derry. He was the son of Thomas Mitchell and Agnes nee McCluskey. He left Northern Ireland for Wishaw Scotland sometime before 1847 when he married Isabella Bryson McFarlane, in Cambusnethan Lanarkshire. Thomas was a master shoe maker with a business in Main Street Wishaw. (He had a young brother named David who was a journeyman tailor, who died in Wishaw aged 32 years.) I've never been able to track this family back to Londonderry. Happy Father's Day Cathy On 18/06/2012, at 3:18 AM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: > Today is Father's Day in Ireland. > Seeing the Father's Day wishes, made me think it would be nice to > remember the father, grandfather, great-grandfather or GGgrandfather > who left Ireland. > Maybe his name and something you know about him. > > Happy Father's Day! > Christina > =============================== > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN- > CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Christina, My great great Grandfather was William Hall he was a Scripture Reader in Dublin and he married Matilda McKeon and they had 3 children Henry Edward Matilda John Richard he emigrated to Australia Regards Marion Sydney H Sent from Marion's IPad On 18/06/2012, at 1:18 AM, Christina Finn Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > Today is Father's Day in Ireland. > Seeing the Father's Day wishes, made me think it would be nice to > remember the father, grandfather, great-grandfather or GGgrandfather > who left Ireland. > Maybe his name and something you know about him. > > Happy Father's Day! > Christina > =============================== > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Christina, Thanks for taking the time bring us all these wonderful Funeral entries. Regards Marion Sydney Sent from Marion's IPad On 18/06/2012, at 2:27 AM, Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > Janne daughter of John MILLES sometime Shirive of > the City of Dublin. She had three Husbands, the first > William MILLINCHOPE of Dublin Habbardasher by whome She > had no issue. These 4 Viz John BLIKE of Carickfergus > Merchant and hath to Wife ... George BLIKE who did marry > Joan daughter of James TIRRELL of Dublin sometime Shirive. > Edward BLIKE and William BLIKE both died young, the above > said Janne had the afore mentioned Sons by Peter BLIKE of > Dublin Habbardasher he being her Second Husband. The > said Janne had to her third and last Husband Patrick Ardagh > of Dublin Habbardasher by whom She had issue three Sonnes > Viz. Nichols ARDAGH who hath to wife Ann daughter of Lawrence > SCANLONE of Dublin, Robert ARDAGH married Margarett Daughter of > Neale o MALOY sometime Clke of Killaly in the Queens County, > William Ardagh died in his youth. The truith of the premisses > is testified by the Subscription of George BLIKE aforesaid > She was Buried in Christ Church the 13th of February 1637 and > Departed this mortall life ye 11th of February take by me Albon > LEVERET to be recordd. in the Office of King of Armes of Ireland. > > George BLIKE > > *This one is a bit confusing to read. Janne had children by husband > #2 Peter Blike and husband #3 Patrick Ardagh. > > [Shirive = sheriff] > > ========== > Christina > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re-posted with the permission of the author. ------------------------------ Colleagues The magnificent efforts of the contributors mean that there are now over 95,000 records in the database. Search then using the following link: http://members.pcug.org.au/~nickred/deeds/search_index.html -- Regards Nick

Marion, Thanks for writing. I hoped they were of interest to a few of our list members. I know they are early, but I am finding them a learning experience. Interesting to see how the surnames evolved. Christina Marion Wakeford wrote: > Hi Christina, > Thanks for taking the time bring us all these wonderful Funeral entries. > > Regards > Marion > Sydney > >> On 18/06/2012, at 2:27 AM, Christina Hunt<chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Janne daughter of John MILLES sometime Shirive of >> the City of Dublin. She had three Husbands, the first <snip>

Janne daughter of John MILLES sometime Shirive of the City of Dublin. She had three Husbands, the first William MILLINCHOPE of Dublin Habbardasher by whome She had no issue. These 4 Viz John BLIKE of Carickfergus Merchant and hath to Wife ... George BLIKE who did marry Joan daughter of James TIRRELL of Dublin sometime Shirive. Edward BLIKE and William BLIKE both died young, the above said Janne had the afore mentioned Sons by Peter BLIKE of Dublin Habbardasher he being her Second Husband. The said Janne had to her third and last Husband Patrick Ardagh of Dublin Habbardasher by whom She had issue three Sonnes Viz. Nichols ARDAGH who hath to wife Ann daughter of Lawrence SCANLONE of Dublin, Robert ARDAGH married Margarett Daughter of Neale o MALOY sometime Clke of Killaly in the Queens County, William Ardagh died in his youth. The truith of the premisses is testified by the Subscription of George BLIKE aforesaid She was Buried in Christ Church the 13th of February 1637 and Departed this mortall life ye 11th of February take by me Albon LEVERET to be recordd. in the Office of King of Armes of Ireland. George BLIKE *This one is a bit confusing to read. Janne had children by husband #2 Peter Blike and husband #3 Patrick Ardagh. [Shirive = sheriff] ========== Christina

Actually I don't think Michael left Ireland. He was probably born around 1824. He was a police constable in Dublin. I think he was in the Royal Irish Constabulary. I know he had two daughters, Mary who died young and unmarried. And Catherine who died young and lost several young children. Both are buried in Calvary Cemetery, near Brooklyn, NY. Michael's wife was Mary MANNING. Michael and Mary lived in Arrans Quay on Tighe Street. Edward Melia was the Lease Holder for the home they were in in 1866. A Mary Melia was sponsor at the Baptism of Michael's daughter Catherine. Unfortunately, Michael has been a mystery, but I hope I am closing in on him. :) Christina