Hi I am desperate for help tracing the birth of my grandfather. All I know was that he died on 14 November 1969 at 88 Church Road, Dublin. I am unable to trace back any further until I can get a birth date. Looking at the death certificate he was born around 1888 but where I have no idea. He married Annie Loughrey and they lived in the East Wall area. I am unable to visit Dublin. He is buried in Balgriffen Cemetery. I have tried contacting them but have never had a reply. Any help appreciated as I can go no further. Lorraine ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

Hello Debby, many thanks for your help, regards, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debby Raymond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN > Michael, > > I did indeeed ask for Moran information from my Irish contacts in > Crumlin but although they were willing to help, they had no > information to give. Sorry... Hope you have better luck elsewhere. > > Debby Raymond, > Queensland, Australia > > >

Michael, I did indeeed ask for Moran information from my Irish contacts in Crumlin but although they were willing to help, they had no information to give. Sorry... Hope you have better luck elsewhere. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

Hi Lorraine, I believe Balgriffin is for northside Dublin and that my parents and brother are buried there. We lived in Artane which is northside. I went there once with my little son Paul when I was home on a visit 1970 (I live in USA now) Dad was John McQueen d. 1966, Mom Bridie McQueen d. 1986 brother Can d. 1995. I went there by bus. Try if there is a website for Balgriffin online? Bal short for town in gaelic. If not, check the Dublin bmd index or National Library online for births or marriages. If Anthony is online he might check if I am right about the name of the cemetary? Good luck. I am going over for a visit in June to see some cousins in Dublin. Cheers, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Balgriffen Cemetery My garndfather and most of my relations are buried in the above cemetery. Unfortunatley there is no way I can get to Dubln to check the details. I have tried contacting the cemetery direct but there is no answer. I can not trace my family any further until I at least have a birth date for one of them. Death details I have are as followsL Thomas Moore - DOD 14/11/1969 husband of Annie (Anne) Moore who died 13 March 1979. Thomas Loughrey died around 1890 - 1911. Any help greatly received. Cheers Lorraine ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 19:15 08/01/2007, you wrote: > >Could that custom apply in this case? > >My GM, Elizabeth L'Estrange was born 28 feb 1867. Last spring I went to the >St. Nicholas of Myrna church on Francis St. to seek her baptismal record as >she was born #5, Upper Kevin street. They had no record of that and >they were >very gracious in trying to find one. What other church might have >a record? >Would the 'maternity hospital' be the Rotunda and if so, what RC >parish church > would that be? > If the child was born in the 'Rotunda' the it would St Mary's Pro-Cathedral in Marlboro St that who be the relevant parish, their address at my web page below. Kind regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/

My garndfather and most of my relations are buried in the above cemetery. Unfortunatley there is no way I can get to Dubln to check the details. I have tried contacting the cemetery direct but there is no answer. I can not trace my family any further until I at least have a birth date for one of them. Death details I have are as followsL Thomas Moore - DOD 14/11/1969 husband of Annie (Anne) Moore who died 13 March 1979. Thomas Loughrey died around 1890 - 1911. Any help greatly received. Cheers Lorraine ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

Could that custom apply in this case? My GM, Elizabeth L'Estrange was born 28 feb 1867. Last spring I went to the St. Nicholas of Myrna church on Francis St. to seek her baptismal record as she was born #5, Upper Kevin street. They had no record of that and they were very gracious in trying to find one. What other church might have a record? Would the 'maternity hospital' be the Rotunda and if so, what RC parish church would that be? Anthony, you are so helpful with historical details that give clues to options not widely considered. Thank you, Janice Boston In a message dated 12/26/2006 6:45:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: At 09:17 26/12/2006, you wrote: >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is >something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - >I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to >St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, The answer to is probably that it was the custom and practice for children born in the National maternity Hospital in Holles Street to be Baptised (usually the day after birth) in St Andrews which was just up the road from Holles St. Interestingly, it was also unusual for the mother to be present, the Godmother took the baby to be Baptised! Hope this sheds some light! Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ////

This is a guess. I am in USA, born Dublin. You might try ProCathedral, maybe called St. Mary's. Yes, the Rotunda is the oldest maternity hospital in Europe and did a great business in births. I suppose there are many RC parishes near there even Protestant like Trinity Church. Kevin Street is near Stephens Green and Harcourt Street in the middle of the city, so its hard to say what parish is near. My sis was born Rotunda but we lived in Fairview/Marino area. Try National Library and Births marriage and death index in Dublin. Sorry I am no help. Maybe Anthony or someone living near there could help. Cheers, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN////baptized close to hospital? Could that custom apply in this case? My GM, Elizabeth L'Estrange was born 28 feb 1867. Last spring I went to the St. Nicholas of Myrna church on Francis St. to seek her baptismal record as she was born #5, Upper Kevin street. They had no record of that and they were very gracious in trying to find one. What other church might have a record? Would the 'maternity hospital' be the Rotunda and if so, what RC parish church would that be? Anthony, you are so helpful with historical details that give clues to options not widely considered. Thank you, Janice Boston In a message dated 12/26/2006 6:45:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: At 09:17 26/12/2006, you wrote: >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is >something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - >I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to >St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, The answer to is probably that it was the custom and practice for children born in the National maternity Hospital in Holles Street to be Baptised (usually the day after birth) in St Andrews which was just up the road from Holles St. Interestingly, it was also unusual for the mother to be present, the Godmother took the baby to be Baptised! Hope this sheds some light! Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message //// ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for more information about Thomas Arkins. I know that he was Sword-Bearer from 1842 - 80 but was he related to John Patrick Arkins? I know that Thomas Arkins was a tailor by trade & that he made Daniel O'Connell's ceremonial robes as Lord Mayor. I also know that John Patrick Arkins was married to Nanny O'Connell. Can anyone offer more information please. Regards, Roger Finlay

At 18:52 01/01/2007, you wrote: >Not sure wether i am on the right list .if i am not perhaps someone can >direct me in the right direction .. > >i am looking for any information on ... > >Elizabeth DAVIS born c.1815 Celebridge .Ireland looking for possible >christening \baptism. Although Celbridge is in near proximity to Dublin it is actually in county Kildare. The Kildare web page will give you good links to the Kildare Heritage Project based at the County Library at Newbridge which holds the relevant parish registers. Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/

Not sure wether i am on the right list .if i am not perhaps someone can direct me in the right direction .. i am looking for any information on ... Elizabeth DAVIS born c.1815 Celebridge .Ireland looking for possible christening \baptism.

Dear list, I hope someone may connect with my interests in Dublin City: THOMPSON: James son of James shopkeeper/farmer of Limerick (?) married 1860 Ellen Price in Limerick - 2 daughters, married 1866 Harriett Glasgow nee Gould in Limerick at least 3 children - James George (my gt gt grandfather) born 1867 in Dublin, William Schomberg and Harriett Kate. James George married 1888 Annie Weatherup living in Usher's Quay, Abercorn St and Gloucester Street over the years. Father and son were printers/ compositors. WEATHERUP: William married Anne Corbliss in 1854 in Dublin by licence and had children Richard, Robert and Annie (above). They lived in Booterstown, Blackrock and Gloucester Street, Dublin. Other connected names over the years were Flanagan (of Clontarf Co Dublin), Ebbitt, Sweeney (Clontarf again), and Rutledge. Yours hopefully, Ian Thompson London SW9 _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d

Hello Anthony, I hope you and yours had a wonderful Christmas? Many thanks for your reply, the child was actually born in the Rotunda, so she tells me, so I don't know! Later on in months, she was up for fostering/adoption by my grandmother, how this happened I'll never know, grandmother was widowed, deaf and mute and getting on in years too, there was also no paperwork - which assumes something amiss! Kind regards and Happy New Year, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN > At 09:17 26/12/2006, you wrote: >>I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is >>something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - >>I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to >>St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, > > > The answer to is probably that it was the custom and practice for children > born in the National maternity Hospital in Holles Street to be Baptised > (usually the day after birth) in St Andrews which was just up the road > from Holles St. Interestingly, it was also unusual for the mother to be > present, the Godmother took the baby to be Baptised! > > Hope this sheds some light! > > Regards > > > Anthony J. Roche > Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ > Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ > > >

Hi Debbie, many thanks for your reply. Kind regards and Happy New Year, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debby Raymond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is > something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - > I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to > St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, when > they could have had the service performed surely at St. Agnes' Church > in Crumlin? But perhaps that church was not yet built at that date. > I'm asking around for you. (I have Moran acquaintances in Dublin whom > I'll ask to see if they know anything.) > > Debby Raymond, > Queensland, Australia. > > >

I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, when they could have had the service performed surely at St. Agnes' Church in Crumlin? But perhaps that church was not yet built at that date. I'm asking around for you. (I have Moran acquaintances in Dublin whom I'll ask to see if they know anything.) Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia.

Hello, I would really appreciate some insider advice for my first trip to Ireland. If someone who knows about Dublin could email me off-list, that woukld be wonderful! Thank you, and Happy New Year! Mona

Happy New Year Anthony, long time no see. Mea culpa, Iwas busy on the Scots line checking my paternal McQueens and got as far as I can go. Now I am concentrating on my maternal side, many born in Dublin like myself if you remember me from previous emails. How did your book fare, is it still selling. I got my BA degree from SFSU last year well 05 that is. Retired now not doing much staying with hubby more but I would like to take some classes in art and artists and maybe write about them. I hope I can get in to college again maybe only the 60 plus classes. Anyway I am sure you are not interested in my rambling on so much. I remember my mom telling me there are "Whites in the castle at Howth" I never asked what she really meant, thats the way we were in our childhood at least mine. Mom was Bridie White born Dublin 1898 died 1986 RIP. Her Dad was Patrick White born Raheny/Coolock area 1871 I found his baptism record at Clontarf church I found a White married to Allison St. Lawrence in 1500+ I have the record from LDS only. But I am going to concentrate on finding Whites in the Howth area. My grandad who lived with us until he died 1944 was a saint, I mean a good living and saintly person in life. His mom was Ann Fox and my nephew Graham told me she was said to be the oldest woman in Howth when she died. She had a sister Rose Fox married to Hartford of Hill of Howth. Grandad took me once to Ivy cottage to meet two aunts named Hartford. Sorry for rambling on Anthony. I am coming to Dublin in June next and will stay with cousin Gerry Loughrey Beaumont for a week or two and meet another cousin Mike Waters who will take me to New Ross to meet his Murphy family relatives. I found my ggrandmother was Bridget Murphy m. 1869 Rosbarecon, Wexford to Thomas Haberlin and my granny's parents. Good luck with your writing. I will have more time now for Dublin and Irish relatives, finished with the McQueen lot for now. Cheers, best of luck in the New Year to come soon. Regards, Patricia Rosset (McQueen) ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony J. Roche To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:41 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN At 09:17 26/12/2006, you wrote: >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is >something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - >I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to >St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, The answer to is probably that it was the custom and practice for children born in the National maternity Hospital in Holles Street to be Baptised (usually the day after birth) in St Andrews which was just up the road from Holles St. Interestingly, it was also unusual for the mother to be present, the Godmother took the baby to be Baptised! Hope this sheds some light! Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 09:17 26/12/2006, you wrote: >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is >something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - >I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to >St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, The answer to is probably that it was the custom and practice for children born in the National maternity Hospital in Holles Street to be Baptised (usually the day after birth) in St Andrews which was just up the road from Holles St. Interestingly, it was also unusual for the mother to be present, the Godmother took the baby to be Baptised! Hope this sheds some light! Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/

Greetings. I have information that a genealogy of my ancestors, Palmers of Dublin, exists in Ulster Herald's Genealogy Trees from Wills at Dublin Castle. This genealogy apparently begins with Thomas Palmer around 1634. Has anyone used this source? Can you tell me a bit about it? Is it possible to get photocopies of pages? Thanks in advance. Janice Tanche

Many thanks to you Anthony and may you receive all the blessings and peace of this Holy Season. Shelagh O'Neill UK "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> wrote: A very Happy and Peaceful Christmas to all on the list, may your holiday time bring you the joy of the Christ Child and may your coming year fulfill all your hopes and wishes >From Dublin from whence your ancestors came Blessings and Greetings Anthony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message