Hi No I confess I have no idea where he was born, who his mother was or who his father was. I am guessing looking st the childrens names that they may have been Thomas and Margaret. I know he married Annie Loughrey in Dublin before December 1914 when 1st child was born. I have been advised that the GRO in Dublin will do a 3 year marriage search but I can not find anything on their web site or on the form. Any ideas how I can trace this? Thanks Lorraine >-- Original Message -- >From: "Jennette Gest" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:22:18 +1000 >Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] More details for Thomas Moore >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >Hi Lorraine >You would still have to be careful that Thomas didn't have a birthday say > >the late December as this would pull him back to 1887. You also have to >remember who gave his death age may of got it wrong when they put 81. >Do you know who his mother was, you can ask them to check this, but it would > >cost more when they check for you. >I don't know what they charge for checking say a 5 year search & a mother's > >maiden name. >Are you also sure he was born Dublin not just somewhere in Ireland. >Jennette Gest >nee Byrne >QLD AUS >[email protected] > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:05 AM >Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] More details for Thomas Moore > > >> Debbie >> >> Thank you so much for that. If Thomas died on 14/11/1969 and he was 81 >he >> would habe to be born in 1888. I am wondering if he is either of the >> first >> 2 on your list. Is the a comprehensive list of just extracts of records? >> You will have to excuse my ignorance I have not been doing this reaserch >> very long and I am still finding my way around things. Where would I go >> now to get further details using what you have given me? >> >> Any help appreciated. >> >> Lorraine >> >>>-- Original Message -- >>>From: "Debby Raymond" <[email protected]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:31:47 +1000 >>>Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] More details for Thomas Moore >>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>> >>> >>>Regarding Thomas Moore born ca1888, I too looked up some indexes for you, >>>this time the Index to Births, Marriages and Deaths held on microfilm at >>>the LDS in Burpengary, Queensland. >>> >>>Thomas Joseph Moore born April - June quarter 1888, Dublin North, ref. > >>>volume >>>2, page 494. >>> >>>Thomas Henry Moore born Sept - Dec quarter 1888, Dublin South, ref. volume >>>2, page 551. >>> >>>Thomas Joseph Moore born April - June quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. > >>>volume >>>2, page 589. >>> >>>Thomas Robert Moore born April - June quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. > >>>volume >>>3, page 601. >>> >>>Thomas Moore born June - Sept quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, >>>page 515. >>> >>>Thomas Moore born June - Sept quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, >>>page 633. >>> >>> >>> >>>Debby Raymond, >>> >>>Queensland, Australia >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] >>>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>>of the message >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

> I know he married Annie Loughrey in Dublin > before December 1914 when 1st child was born. . If you are near an LDS library you can order the marriage indexes. I found mine by looking on the indexes until I found the male who was married that had the same vol. and page number as the woman he married. When they finally matched...it worked. I did this in Wales where a Huge Jones married a Jennette Jones. I finally found the match and it was my husband's great great grandparents. To put it easier. Look up Annie Loughrey on the marriage index and if you find an Annie Loughrey write down the vol. and page number. Then look on the same index...same quarter too...to see if there is a Thomas Moore that is on the same page and vol. as Annie. As sometimes a woman can be pregnant you might want to start with the birth of their first child in Dec. and work backwards. Hope I've made sense. Good hunting. Flo

I have seen some Rotunda birth records on an LDS film ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Sorry for the delay of my reply but I have had over 3 weeks in hospital so I am only now getting to answer hundreds of messages. This is a standard message for everyone. Regards Valerie. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Patricia McQueen Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 8:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN////baptized close to hospital? This is a guess. I am in USA, born Dublin. You might try ProCathedral, maybe called St. Mary's. Yes, the Rotunda is the oldest maternity hospital in Europe and did a great business in births. I suppose there are many RC parishes near there even Protestant like Trinity Church. Kevin Street is near Stephens Green and Harcourt Street in the middle of the city, so its hard to say what parish is near. My sis was born Rotunda but we lived in Fairview/Marino area. Try National Library and Births marriage and death index in Dublin. Sorry I am no help. Maybe Anthony or someone living near there could help. Cheers, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN////baptized close to hospital? Could that custom apply in this case? My GM, Elizabeth L'Estrange was born 28 feb 1867. Last spring I went to the St. Nicholas of Myrna church on Francis St. to seek her baptismal record as she was born #5, Upper Kevin street. They had no record of that and they were very gracious in trying to find one. What other church might have a record? Would the 'maternity hospital' be the Rotunda and if so, what RC parish church would that be? Anthony, you are so helpful with historical details that give clues to options not widely considered. Thank you, Janice Boston In a message dated 12/26/2006 6:45:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: At 09:17 26/12/2006, you wrote: >I can't immediately help you with your Moran family, but there is >something that strikes me about the details you give, and it is this - >I am surprised that a family living in Crumlin or Kimmage would go to >St. Andrew's Church in Westland Row to have a child christened, The answer to is probably that it was the custom and practice for children born in the National maternity Hospital in Holles Street to be Baptised (usually the day after birth) in St Andrews which was just up the road from Holles St. Interestingly, it was also unusual for the mother to be present, the Godmother took the baby to be Baptised! Hope this sheds some light! Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message //// ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lorraine You would still have to be careful that Thomas didn't have a birthday say the late December as this would pull him back to 1887. You also have to remember who gave his death age may of got it wrong when they put 81. Do you know who his mother was, you can ask them to check this, but it would cost more when they check for you. I don't know what they charge for checking say a 5 year search & a mother's maiden name. Are you also sure he was born Dublin not just somewhere in Ireland. Jennette Gest nee Byrne QLD AUS [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] More details for Thomas Moore > Debbie > > Thank you so much for that. If Thomas died on 14/11/1969 and he was 81 he > would habe to be born in 1888. I am wondering if he is either of the > first > 2 on your list. Is the a comprehensive list of just extracts of records? > You will have to excuse my ignorance I have not been doing this reaserch > very long and I am still finding my way around things. Where would I go > now to get further details using what you have given me? > > Any help appreciated. > > Lorraine > >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Debby Raymond" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:31:47 +1000 >>Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] More details for Thomas Moore >>Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> >>Regarding Thomas Moore born ca1888, I too looked up some indexes for you, >>this time the Index to Births, Marriages and Deaths held on microfilm at >>the LDS in Burpengary, Queensland. >> >>Thomas Joseph Moore born April - June quarter 1888, Dublin North, ref. >>volume >>2, page 494. >> >>Thomas Henry Moore born Sept - Dec quarter 1888, Dublin South, ref. volume >>2, page 551. >> >>Thomas Joseph Moore born April - June quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. >>volume >>2, page 589. >> >>Thomas Robert Moore born April - June quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. >>volume >>3, page 601. >> >>Thomas Moore born June - Sept quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, >>page 515. >> >>Thomas Moore born June - Sept quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, >>page 633. >> >> >> >>Debby Raymond, >> >>Queensland, Australia >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] >>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>of the message > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Debbie Thank you so much for that. If Thomas died on 14/11/1969 and he was 81 he would habe to be born in 1888. I am wondering if he is either of the first 2 on your list. Is the a comprehensive list of just extracts of records? You will have to excuse my ignorance I have not been doing this reaserch very long and I am still finding my way around things. Where would I go now to get further details using what you have given me? Any help appreciated. Lorraine >-- Original Message -- >From: "Debby Raymond" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:31:47 +1000 >Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] More details for Thomas Moore >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >Regarding Thomas Moore born ca1888, I too looked up some indexes for you, >this time the Index to Births, Marriages and Deaths held on microfilm at >the LDS in Burpengary, Queensland. > >Thomas Joseph Moore born April - June quarter 1888, Dublin North, ref. volume >2, page 494. > >Thomas Henry Moore born Sept - Dec quarter 1888, Dublin South, ref. volume >2, page 551. > >Thomas Joseph Moore born April - June quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume >2, page 589. > >Thomas Robert Moore born April - June quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume >3, page 601. > >Thomas Moore born June - Sept quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, >page 515. > >Thomas Moore born June - Sept quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, >page 633. > > > >Debby Raymond, > >Queensland, Australia > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

Anthony, As always you have provided me with useful information. This is the first glimer of hope of finding my great-grandmothers birth place in a long time. She left Ireland around 1875 and even with her birthdate I keep butting my head into this brick wall. I will follow your suggestions and order the 1911 census film and look into the Kildare and Carlow lists. I appreciate your help. Bonnie -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> > At 02:29 21/01/2007, you wrote: > >Hello, > >After many years of research I may have stumbled > >on a potential lead for my Aspel/Kinsella > >ancestors. I was always told they were from > >Dublin but have not found any positive proof > >that they were from Dublin They could have been > >from somewhere else in Ireland and just left from Dublin. > >Could someone tell me if the Rathcoole District, > >(Celbridge Union) is in Dublin? > >I have a letter dated 1913 to my grandmother > >from a Mary Archbold who lived at 60 Brookfield > >Bds, Brookfield Avenue, Blackrock. The stamp has > >been removed along with the postmark so I'm not even sure it is from Ireland. > > Well now there are about three questions / > possibilities here! Rathcoole is in the County > of Dublin however the 'Poor Law Union' of > Celbridge is centered on North East Kildare. I > have to say that I am a little surprised to hear > that Rathcoole is in the PLU of Celbridge, but as > we all know, we learn something new every day. > > Brookfield Buildings, Brookfield Avenue was > indeed a Dublin address, unfortunately the > directory for the years around that time list > then as 76 small houses with rateable valuations > between £3 and £9 so individual occupants would > not be listed. They should however, show up on > the 1911 census which is available from your > local / nearest LDS (Mormon) Centre. > > There is a cluster of the Aspel and Kinsella > names in Kildare and Carlow regions so checking > with folk on these lists may elicit something > > Regards > > Anthony J. Roche > Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ > Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 02:29 21/01/2007, you wrote: >Hello, >After many years of research I may have stumbled >on a potential lead for my Aspel/Kinsella >ancestors. I was always told they were from >Dublin but have not found any positive proof >that they were from Dublin They could have been >from somewhere else in Ireland and just left from Dublin. >Could someone tell me if the Rathcoole District, >(Celbridge Union) is in Dublin? >I have a letter dated 1913 to my grandmother >from a Mary Archbold who lived at 60 Brookfield >Bds, Brookfield Avenue, Blackrock. The stamp has >been removed along with the postmark so I'm not even sure it is from Ireland. Well now there are about three questions / possibilities here! Rathcoole is in the County of Dublin however the 'Poor Law Union' of Celbridge is centered on North East Kildare. I have to say that I am a little surprised to hear that Rathcoole is in the PLU of Celbridge, but as we all know, we learn something new every day. Brookfield Buildings, Brookfield Avenue was indeed a Dublin address, unfortunately the directory for the years around that time list then as 76 small houses with rateable valuations between £3 and £9 so individual occupants would not be listed. They should however, show up on the 1911 census which is available from your local / nearest LDS (Mormon) Centre. There is a cluster of the Aspel and Kinsella names in Kildare and Carlow regions so checking with folk on these lists may elicit something Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/

Hello, After many years of research I may have stumbled on a potential lead for my Aspel/Kinsella ancestors. I was always told they were from Dublin but have not found any positive proof that they were from Dublin They could have been from somewhere else in Ireland and just left from Dublin. Could someone tell me if the Rathcoole District, (Celbridge Union) is in Dublin? I have a letter dated 1913 to my grandmother from a Mary Archbold who lived at 60 Brookfield Bds, Brookfield Avenue, Blackrock. The stamp has been removed along with the postmark so I'm not even sure it is from Ireland. >From my research I find a relationship between the two names..Archbold and Aspel and both from this district. If this address is in Dublin, is it in the Rathcoole District? Many thanks for any information. Bonnie Carlson

Regarding Thomas Moore born ca1888, I too looked up some indexes for you, this time the Index to Births, Marriages and Deaths held on microfilm at the LDS in Burpengary, Queensland. Thomas Joseph Moore born April - June quarter 1888, Dublin North, ref. volume 2, page 494. Thomas Henry Moore born Sept - Dec quarter 1888, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, page 551. Thomas Joseph Moore born April - June quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, page 589. Thomas Robert Moore born April - June quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 3, page 601. Thomas Moore born June - Sept quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, page 515. Thomas Moore born June - Sept quarter 1889, Dublin South, ref. volume 2, page 633. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

I am researching the names SAUNDERS and HENSHALL, especially the wife of James HENSHALL, Linen Merchant, she died between 1760, when their daughter Eleanor HENSHALL was born and 1774 when her husband remarried. Any information on the above two surnames would be greatly appreciated Rita Robinson, South Africa, [email protected]

Thankyou for that, Carol, it is very interesting. Some time I would be interested in your MATHER connection. My maternal grandfather was William Thomas Mather and his ancestors came from Breadsall Village, about 3 miles north east of Derby. Val ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Brown Parker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? > Sorry, FTM DNA is "Family Tree Maker DNA project". For example my youngest > brother received a DNA Kit from FTM DNA which was a swab like a Q-tip > he rubbed the inside of his mouth with the swab, which puts DNA on the > swab > and inserted the swab in the tub provided. He then sent it to FTM DNA. > This > is not the same as taking a persons DNA by blood sample. The swab will > then > contain cells I believe that show the "Y" chromesone that men pass on from > one male to another such as father to son and so on generation after > generation. The male "Y" chromesone for a Brown family would be different > for a Mather > family (I have Mathers on my mothers side by the way). The "Y" chromsone > can > only be passed by one male to another so only the males test for this. > In using the DNA they can match for example people with the name Brown > with > other Brown's of the same line. You might be surprised but we have > I believe about 200 distinct Brown family lines in our Brown DNA Project > with a 58% matching at present and still growing. Once you match with > someone you compare paper trails and this helps you find your country of > origin. This is the link for the Brown DNA Project and the next one > for FTM DNA for those who are not with the surname of Brown. Like I said > if > you are like me and your last name was possibly changed this will also > help. > [email protected] Use this link to get more information on the Brown > DNA Project > http://brownsociety.org This is the Brown site > http://www.familytreedna.com/about.html This is the FTM DNA site and will > give you more information plus you can see if your Surname has a project > > I do not work for them, I joined the Brown DNA project to prove if we > really > did come from Dublin, Ireland! > Carol Brown Parker > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rickaby" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:07 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? > > >> Hi Carol and Listers >> Could you please explain FTM DNA. >> >> Val >> >> >> >> >> searching for: >> >> >> E m i n s o n/E m i son (Derby, Ilkeston, Normanton in Derbyshire) >> G r a h a m (Ahoghill, Ballymena in Ireland) >> >> L y d d i e t h (Little Woolton, Much Woolton in Lancashire) >> >> M a t h e r (Derby, Breadsall, Little Chester, Sheffield, Derbyshire) >> N i c h o l l s (Little Woolton, Much Woolton, Frodsham) >> >> R a t c l i f f e (Shardlow, Derby) >> >> R i c k a b y (Black Rock, Dublin) >> W a l k e r (Derby, Litttleover, Burton-on Trent) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carol Brown Parker" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? >> >> >>> Hi Michael, your welcome. Have you done the FTM DNA? My youngest brother >>> has for Brown but I am also linked to Flanagan. Actually they will show >>> me >>> any >>> name I match with I asked for that as I don't have any 100% match with >>> Brown >>> yet. I am very postitive of the Brown name until I hit the gggrandfather >>> but >>> he >>> appears to have fallen from the sky or something, ha,ha. Anyway good >>> luck. >>> Carol >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carol and Listers Could you please explain FTM DNA. Val searching for: E m i n s o n/E m i son (Derby, Ilkeston, Normanton in Derbyshire) G r a h a m (Ahoghill, Ballymena in Ireland) L y d d i e t h (Little Woolton, Much Woolton in Lancashire) M a t h e r (Derby, Breadsall, Little Chester, Sheffield, Derbyshire) N i c h o l l s (Little Woolton, Much Woolton, Frodsham) R a t c l i f f e (Shardlow, Derby) R i c k a b y (Black Rock, Dublin) W a l k e r (Derby, Litttleover, Burton-on Trent) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Brown Parker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? > Hi Michael, your welcome. Have you done the FTM DNA? My youngest brother > has for Brown but I am also linked to Flanagan. Actually they will show me > any > name I match with I asked for that as I don't have any 100% match with > Brown > yet. I am very postitive of the Brown name until I hit the gggrandfather > but > he > appears to have fallen from the sky or something, ha,ha. Anyway good luck. > Carol >

I'm trying to trace the birth of my gg-grandfather, WILLIAM THOMAS ROBINSON (Dublin, Ireland, 1845). His parents were JOHN ROBINSON (b. 1812, Sussex, England - a soldier I believe) and Margaret (surname untraced as yet, but b. Woolwich, Kent, England, about 1819). Dates/birthplaces gleaned from English census records. If anyone can help, I'd be very grateful. Regards, Simon _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE email from Mount Everest Info Guide at http://www.mnteverest.net

Sorry, FTM DNA is "Family Tree Maker DNA project". For example my youngest brother received a DNA Kit from FTM DNA which was a swab like a Q-tip he rubbed the inside of his mouth with the swab, which puts DNA on the swab and inserted the swab in the tub provided. He then sent it to FTM DNA. This is not the same as taking a persons DNA by blood sample. The swab will then contain cells I believe that show the "Y" chromesone that men pass on from one male to another such as father to son and so on generation after generation. The male "Y" chromesone for a Brown family would be different for a Mather family (I have Mathers on my mothers side by the way). The "Y" chromsone can only be passed by one male to another so only the males test for this. In using the DNA they can match for example people with the name Brown with other Brown's of the same line. You might be surprised but we have I believe about 200 distinct Brown family lines in our Brown DNA Project with a 58% matching at present and still growing. Once you match with someone you compare paper trails and this helps you find your country of origin. This is the link for the Brown DNA Project and the next one for FTM DNA for those who are not with the surname of Brown. Like I said if you are like me and your last name was possibly changed this will also help. [email protected] Use this link to get more information on the Brown DNA Project http://brownsociety.org This is the Brown site http://www.familytreedna.com/about.html This is the FTM DNA site and will give you more information plus you can see if your Surname has a project I do not work for them, I joined the Brown DNA project to prove if we really did come from Dublin, Ireland! Carol Brown Parker ----- Original Message ----- From: "rickaby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? > Hi Carol and Listers > Could you please explain FTM DNA. > > Val > > > > > searching for: > > > E m i n s o n/E m i son (Derby, Ilkeston, Normanton in Derbyshire) > G r a h a m (Ahoghill, Ballymena in Ireland) > > L y d d i e t h (Little Woolton, Much Woolton in Lancashire) > > M a t h e r (Derby, Breadsall, Little Chester, Sheffield, Derbyshire) > N i c h o l l s (Little Woolton, Much Woolton, Frodsham) > > R a t c l i f f e (Shardlow, Derby) > > R i c k a b y (Black Rock, Dublin) > W a l k e r (Derby, Litttleover, Burton-on Trent) > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Brown Parker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:53 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? > > >> Hi Michael, your welcome. Have you done the FTM DNA? My youngest brother >> has for Brown but I am also linked to Flanagan. Actually they will show >> me >> any >> name I match with I asked for that as I don't have any 100% match with >> Brown >> yet. I am very postitive of the Brown name until I hit the gggrandfather >> but >> he >> appears to have fallen from the sky or something, ha,ha. Anyway good >> luck. >> Carol >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carol, yes it was me who was interested in the FLANAGAN name. But I think your dates you mention are a little early for me but the name change to BROWN certainly has intrigued me and given me another avenue to explore. Many thanks and regards, Michael McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Brown Parker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? >I went back over the e-mails around Christmas and noticed someone posted >for a Flanagan. My gggrandfather born Nov 1822 or his father was born in > Dublin, Ireland according to the stories handed down. Our name was > supposed to be Flanagan originally and then changed to Brown as the person > fled Dublin, Ireland after steeling a horse. I have read in a book many > years ago that Flanagan's changed their name to Brown in situations like > this. > Does anyone have a Flanagan like this one? > Thanks Carol Brown Parker > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:51 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN > > >

Hi Michael, your welcome. Have you done the FTM DNA? My youngest brother has for Brown but I am also linked to Flanagan. Actually they will show me any name I match with I asked for that as I don't have any 100% match with Brown yet. I am very postitive of the Brown name until I hit the gggrandfather but he appears to have fallen from the sky or something, ha,ha. Anyway good luck. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? > Hi Carol, yes it was me who was interested in the FLANAGAN name. But I > think your dates you mention are a little early for me but the name change > to BROWN certainly has intrigued me and given me another avenue to > explore. > Many thanks and regards, Michael McAllister > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Brown Parker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Brown named change from FLANAGAN ??? > > >>I went back over the e-mails around Christmas and noticed someone posted >>for a Flanagan. My gggrandfather born Nov 1822 or his father was born in >> Dublin, Ireland according to the stories handed down. Our name was >> supposed to be Flanagan originally and then changed to Brown as the >> person >> fled Dublin, Ireland after steeling a horse. I have read in a book many >> years ago that Flanagan's changed their name to Brown in situations like >> this. >> Does anyone have a Flanagan like this one? >> Thanks Carol Brown Parker >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I went back over the e-mails around Christmas and noticed someone posted for a Flanagan. My gggrandfather born Nov 1822 or his father was born in Dublin, Ireland according to the stories handed down. Our name was supposed to be Flanagan originally and then changed to Brown as the person fled Dublin, Ireland after steeling a horse. I have read in a book many years ago that Flanagan's changed their name to Brown in situations like this. Does anyone have a Flanagan like this one? Thanks Carol Brown Parker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] MORAN/FLANAGAN

Thomas and Annie first child was born in 1913. But was this the first child, as so many first borns die. I have no more information about Thomas other than who he married (no idea when) a list of his children and the date he died. Thanks for your help. Lorraine >-- Original Message -- >From: "Carol Brown Parker" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:18:30 -0400 >Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Thomas Moore >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >I searched for marriages from 1886 to 1946 for the last name Moore and this > >is the results. Are you sure about the marriage date and the wife's full > >name? >This search was for Dublin, Ireland > Moore Gulielmus Armstead Maria 09-04-1894 Lucan > Moore John Byrne Mary St Peters > Moore Patrick Dunne Mary Rathfarnham > Moore Thomas Henry Knight Mary Kingsmill 07-03-1889 Sandford > Moore William Salmon Mary Ann St Peters > Moore Wm. Salmon Mary Ann St Peters > > >These are the births for Thomas Moore, I searched from 1880 to 1895. >Data Searched: Baptism Register > > Date Of Birth Date of Baptism Surname Firstname Parish > 18-08-1889 25-08-1889 Moore Thomas Clondalkin R.c. > 04-07-1894 28-08-1894 Moore Thomas St Catherines > > >My gggrandfather or his father last name Brown were from Dublin, Ireland > >according to the stories passed from generation to generation but I have >not >been able to prove it. My gggrandfather was born in 1822 all census states > >New York State, I have been told that sometimes it is the state of arrival >given where the birth place should be?? >Carol Brown Parker > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: "Parish Dublin" <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:42 PM >Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Thomas Moore > > >> Hi I am desperate for help tracing the birth of my grandfather. All I know >> was that he died on 14 November 1969 at 88 Church Road, Dublin. I am >> unable >> to trace back any further until I can get a birth date. Looking at the > >> death >> certificate he was born around 1888 but where I have no idea. He married >> Annie Loughrey and they lived in the East Wall area. I am unable to visit >> Dublin. He is buried in Balgriffen Cemetery. I have tried contacting > >> them >> but have never had a reply. Any help appreciated as I can go no further. >> Lorraine >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

Thomas Moore's marriage certificate should say who his father was, and should give you Thomas's address at the time he was married. If he never moved house in his life up till that time, then that was his parental home. This cert will also give you the bride's father name and may tell you the occupations of both the fathers and whether or not they were deceased at the time their children were married. Do you have the marriage cert? Your nearest branch of the LDS (Latter Day Saints, ie Mormon) Church probably has a family history centre attached to it. They can order in for you, for a small fee, the microfilm of the index to the register of births in Ireland for 1888. You can have it on loan at their centre for about a month. You can peruse the film and note any Thomas Moores born that year to try to locate your grandfather. This register will give you only scant detail but from there, you'll at least have a reference number and can ask the volunteers there for help on the next leg of your quest. >From my experiences of Irish cemeteries it's only the largest ones who keep an office on site with details of who is buried there and what plot they're buried in. Most cemeteries are unattended. Good luck! Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

I searched for marriages from 1886 to 1946 for the last name Moore and this is the results. Are you sure about the marriage date and the wife's full name? This search was for Dublin, Ireland Moore Gulielmus Armstead Maria 09-04-1894 Lucan Moore John Byrne Mary St Peters Moore Patrick Dunne Mary Rathfarnham Moore Thomas Henry Knight Mary Kingsmill 07-03-1889 Sandford Moore William Salmon Mary Ann St Peters Moore Wm. Salmon Mary Ann St Peters These are the births for Thomas Moore, I searched from 1880 to 1895. Data Searched: Baptism Register Date Of Birth Date of Baptism Surname Firstname Parish 18-08-1889 25-08-1889 Moore Thomas Clondalkin R.c. 04-07-1894 28-08-1894 Moore Thomas St Catherines My gggrandfather or his father last name Brown were from Dublin, Ireland according to the stories passed from generation to generation but I have not been able to prove it. My gggrandfather was born in 1822 all census states New York State, I have been told that sometimes it is the state of arrival given where the birth place should be?? Carol Brown Parker ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Parish Dublin" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Thomas Moore > Hi I am desperate for help tracing the birth of my grandfather. All I know > was that he died on 14 November 1969 at 88 Church Road, Dublin. I am > unable > to trace back any further until I can get a birth date. Looking at the > death > certificate he was born around 1888 but where I have no idea. He married > Annie Loughrey and they lived in the East Wall area. I am unable to visit > Dublin. He is buried in Balgriffen Cemetery. I have tried contacting > them > but have never had a reply. Any help appreciated as I can go no further. > Lorraine > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >