No these are the cemetery indexes. I also have access to the Registration Indexes. Which ones are you interested in ? Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ]in sunny Sydney A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. Researcher in Genealogy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, 30 March 2007 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Mt Jerome Cemetery Index 1877-1914 Hi Valerie, you have the index on loan at the moment. Are these the Irish Registrars index? How is it possible to borrow them? How do I borrow them?....Thanks...Regards...Shaun ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

as I have done some research on these names. Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. Researcher in Genealogy

I have the index on loan at the moment 1877-1914 and would be happy to do a single search for a name in a particular year or so. Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. Researcher in Genealogy

No they are not BUT if you have a specific date I could have a look for you remembering that they are like the British ones and are done alphabetically by quarter by year. Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ]in sunny Sydney A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. Researcher in Genealogy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Michelle Wilson Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2007 12:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 42 I am a real novice to all of this. Can you tell me if it is possible to view these index on line? Even for a fee? I live in a rural area on the Vermont Canadian border and inquiry has told me that the closest library where I could view these films is 153 miles away in Burlington. At my age I do not drive in city traffic. I know some of my family is buried there but am looking for four others. They were all protestant and Mt. Jerome is the main protestant cemetery. Thank you Michelle Wilson -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/21/07 03:07:24 To: [email protected] Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 42 Today's Topics: 1. Mt Jerome Cemetery Index, Registers & Perpetuities. (Valerie Garton) 2. Re: Mt Jerome Cemetery Index, Registers & Perpetuities. (Bill & Flo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:36:08 +1100 From: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Mt Jerome Cemetery Index, Registers & Perpetuities. To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am wondering if Dublin researchers are aware of these films. There are three sections to these records which is like a supplementary death index from 1836 to 1972 alphabetically by year. The first are the films which cover the Indexes, then the films for the Registers and thirdly the films for the information about the graves that we purchased in Perpetuity. These latter records will give the date of purchases, how much, by whom and a list of all those that are buried in the plot. Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:05:02 -0800 From: "Bill & Flo" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Mt Jerome Cemetery Index, Registers & Perpetuities. To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks, Valerie, for reminding all of us about Mt. Jerome. You can order the films through the LDS Family History library system at any branch library. By going to their library site you can look at all the films you might want. I've put all the indexes on permanent loan at our local library. I can't find my book that has all the films numbers in it right now, but I do know there are 3 sections, the first being the index, the second the perpetuity records of who is buried in each grave that is purchased by a family member, and the 3rd section is the individual burial records. Some times the family bought the right for other family members to be buried with each other...and sometimes you'll find they didn't. When looking at the index note the year and get the grave # on the left column. Then you go to that year and that grave number and you get the actual burial information. If they are buried with other family members you will see the column called "No. of Grant if in Perpetuity" which will give you a number of a family grave. Remember...not everyone was buried with other family members so if that column is blank...they probably weren't buried with family members or someone forgot to record it. If you find a family grave the year and number of burial is also listed on the right hand column for each person buried in the grave. For example...my grandfather William Donald McLean bought the grave in 1917. He buried my grandmother and her individual certificate tells where she died, the date she was buried, her age, what she died of, and the date she died as well as the grave number and the perpetuity #. It also gives his name, address and the fact he is her husband in the last column. Unfortunately the two children who died before Grandma are buried in individual graves and not with the family. Someone else is probably buried with them. The funny thing is when going through the burials one by one we discovered that an Annie Creighton was buried in the grave in 1897, 20 years before my grandfather bought it. We have no idea who she is. Then the cemetery records said that the grave was full....but my cousin didn't know that and buried his mother there in 1999. Anyway, thanks again Valerie, for reminding everyone of such a valuable source. Sure wish they would copy the Glasnevin records so I can see if any of any of my Catholic relatives show up. Mt. Jerome ...last I was told...is a Protestant cemetery. Does anyone know that for sure? Take care, Flo > I am wondering if Dublin researchers are aware of these films. > > There are three sections to these records which is like a > supplementary death index from 1836 to 1972 alphabetically by year. > The first are the films which cover the Indexes, then the films for > the Registers and thirdly the films for the information about the > graves that we purchased in Perpetuity. > > These latter records will give the date of purchases, how much, by > whom and a list of all those that are buried in the plot. > > Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] > A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.14/727 - Release Date: 3/19/07 > > ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Hi Valerie, you have the index on loan at the moment. Are these the Irish Registrars index? How is it possible to borrow them? How do I borrow them?....Thanks...Regards...Shaun

Does anyone have details of any CONNERS living in Dublin city between 1820 - 1860. I am looking for Mary CONNERS born between 1824 - 1828 and her marriage to John JOHNSON/JOHNSTON either 1847 or 1848. John was stationed at the Richmond Barracks at Inchicore . He was there with his regiment from Oct 1847 - Dec 1848. He met Mary in Dublin and they married there, possibly the church nearest to the barracks. I know they were catholic. I live in Canada so can't research very well. Can anyone give me helpful hints please? Many thanks Marion

The other thing I forgot to mention is that in the Attestant's Column you not only get the name of the person BUT their signature and relation to the deceased. Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Bill & Flo Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2007 6:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Mt Jerome Cemetery Index,Registers & Perpetuities. Thanks, Valerie, for reminding all of us about Mt. Jerome. You can order the films through the LDS Family History library system at any branch library. By going to their library site you can look at all the films you might want. I've put all the indexes on permanent loan at our local library. I can't find my book that has all the films numbers in it right now, but I do know there are 3 sections, the first being the index, the second the perpetuity records of who is buried in each grave that is purchased by a family member, and the 3rd section is the individual burial records. Some times the family bought the right for other family members to be buried with each other...and sometimes you'll find they didn't. When looking at the index note the year and get the grave # on the left column. Then you go to that year and that grave number and you get the actual burial information. If they are buried with other family members you will see the column called "No. of Grant if in Perpetuity" which will give you a number of a family grave. Remember...not everyone was buried with other family members so if that column is blank...they probably weren't buried with family members or someone forgot to record it. If you find a family grave the year and number of burial is also listed on the right hand column for each person buried in the grave. For example...my grandfather William Donald McLean bought the grave in 1917. He buried my grandmother and her individual certificate tells where she died, the date she was buried, her age, what she died of, and the date she died as well as the grave number and the perpetuity #. It also gives his name, address and the fact he is her husband in the last column. Unfortunately the two children who died before Grandma are buried in individual graves and not with the family. Someone else is probably buried with them. The funny thing is when going through the burials one by one we discovered that an Annie Creighton was buried in the grave in 1897, 20 years before my grandfather bought it. We have no idea who she is. Then the cemetery records said that the grave was full....but my cousin didn't know that and buried his mother there in 1999. Anyway, thanks again Valerie, for reminding everyone of such a valuable source. Sure wish they would copy the Glasnevin records so I can see if any of any of my Catholic relatives show up. Mt. Jerome ...last I was told...is a Protestant cemetery. Does anyone know that for sure? Take care, Flo > I am wondering if Dublin researchers are aware of these films. > > There are three sections to these records which is like a > supplementary death index from 1836 to 1972 alphabetically by year. > The first are the films which cover the Indexes, then the films for > the Registers and thirdly the films for the information about the > graves that we purchased in Perpetuity. > > These latter records will give the date of purchases, how much, by > whom and a list of all those that are buried in the plot. > > Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] > A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.14/727 - Release Date: 3/19/07 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering if Dublin researchers are aware of these films. There are three sections to these records which is like a supplementary death index from 1836 to 1972 alphabetically by year. The first are the films which cover the Indexes, then the films for the Registers and thirdly the films for the information about the graves that we purchased in Perpetuity. These latter records will give the date of purchases, how much, by whom and a list of all those that are buried in the plot. Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS.

I am a real novice to all of this. Can you tell me if it is possible to view these index on line? Even for a fee? I live in a rural area on the Vermont Canadian border and inquiry has told me that the closest library where I could view these films is 153 miles away in Burlington. At my age I do not drive in city traffic. I know some of my family is buried there but am looking for four others. They were all protestant and Mt. Jerome is the main protestant cemetery. Thank you Michelle Wilson -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/21/07 03:07:24 To: [email protected] Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 42 Today's Topics: 1. Mt Jerome Cemetery Index, Registers & Perpetuities. (Valerie Garton) 2. Re: Mt Jerome Cemetery Index, Registers & Perpetuities. (Bill & Flo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:36:08 +1100 From: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Mt Jerome Cemetery Index, Registers & Perpetuities. To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am wondering if Dublin researchers are aware of these films. There are three sections to these records which is like a supplementary death index from 1836 to 1972 alphabetically by year. The first are the films which cover the Indexes, then the films for the Registers and thirdly the films for the information about the graves that we purchased in Perpetuity. These latter records will give the date of purchases, how much, by whom and a list of all those that are buried in the plot. Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:05:02 -0800 From: "Bill & Flo" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Mt Jerome Cemetery Index, Registers & Perpetuities. To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks, Valerie, for reminding all of us about Mt. Jerome. You can order the films through the LDS Family History library system at any branch library. By going to their library site you can look at all the films you might want. I've put all the indexes on permanent loan at our local library. I can't find my book that has all the films numbers in it right now, but I do know there are 3 sections, the first being the index, the second the perpetuity records of who is buried in each grave that is purchased by a family member, and the 3rd section is the individual burial records. Some times the family bought the right for other family members to be buried with each other...and sometimes you'll find they didn't. When looking at the index note the year and get the grave # on the left column. Then you go to that year and that grave number and you get the actual burial information. If they are buried with other family members you will see the column called "No. of Grant if in Perpetuity" which will give you a number of a family grave. Remember...not everyone was buried with other family members so if that column is blank...they probably weren't buried with family members or someone forgot to record it. If you find a family grave the year and number of burial is also listed on the right hand column for each person buried in the grave. For example...my grandfather William Donald McLean bought the grave in 1917. He buried my grandmother and her individual certificate tells where she died, the date she was buried, her age, what she died of, and the date she died as well as the grave number and the perpetuity #. It also gives his name, address and the fact he is her husband in the last column. Unfortunately the two children who died before Grandma are buried in individual graves and not with the family. Someone else is probably buried with them. The funny thing is when going through the burials one by one we discovered that an Annie Creighton was buried in the grave in 1897, 20 years before my grandfather bought it. We have no idea who she is. Then the cemetery records said that the grave was full....but my cousin didn't know that and buried his mother there in 1999. Anyway, thanks again Valerie, for reminding everyone of such a valuable source. Sure wish they would copy the Glasnevin records so I can see if any of any of my Catholic relatives show up. Mt. Jerome ...last I was told...is a Protestant cemetery. Does anyone know that for sure? Take care, Flo > I am wondering if Dublin researchers are aware of these films. > > There are three sections to these records which is like a > supplementary death index from 1836 to 1972 alphabetically by year. > The first are the films which cover the Indexes, then the films for > the Registers and thirdly the films for the information about the > graves that we purchased in Perpetuity. > > These latter records will give the date of purchases, how much, by > whom and a list of all those that are buried in the plot. > > Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] > A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.14/727 - Release Date: 3/19/07 > > ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Thank you again to all that help with my inquiry regarding my grandfather's occupation [Fitter G.S.W.R. in Dublin]. I thought I would pass along a a site I learned of today from a Rootsweb.com newletter. Quoted from the newletter: "Editor's Note: There is a great site at http://www.genealogytoday.com/guide/help/answers.html where you can enter old occupation names and find out their meanings. The answers are taken from "A List of Occupations" prepared by John J. Lacombe, II. You can also search for old-world diseases and other generic genealogical terms." Thank you again to all who are willing to share their knowledge. Best regards, Nancy Connecticut, USA

Thanks, Valerie, for reminding all of us about Mt. Jerome. You can order the films through the LDS Family History library system at any branch library. By going to their library site you can look at all the films you might want. I've put all the indexes on permanent loan at our local library. I can't find my book that has all the films numbers in it right now, but I do know there are 3 sections, the first being the index, the second the perpetuity records of who is buried in each grave that is purchased by a family member, and the 3rd section is the individual burial records. Some times the family bought the right for other family members to be buried with each other...and sometimes you'll find they didn't. When looking at the index note the year and get the grave # on the left column. Then you go to that year and that grave number and you get the actual burial information. If they are buried with other family members you will see the column called "No. of Grant if in Perpetuity" which will give you a number of a family grave. Remember...not everyone was buried with other family members so if that column is blank...they probably weren't buried with family members or someone forgot to record it. If you find a family grave the year and number of burial is also listed on the right hand column for each person buried in the grave. For example...my grandfather William Donald McLean bought the grave in 1917. He buried my grandmother and her individual certificate tells where she died, the date she was buried, her age, what she died of, and the date she died as well as the grave number and the perpetuity #. It also gives his name, address and the fact he is her husband in the last column. Unfortunately the two children who died before Grandma are buried in individual graves and not with the family. Someone else is probably buried with them. The funny thing is when going through the burials one by one we discovered that an Annie Creighton was buried in the grave in 1897, 20 years before my grandfather bought it. We have no idea who she is. Then the cemetery records said that the grave was full....but my cousin didn't know that and buried his mother there in 1999. Anyway, thanks again Valerie, for reminding everyone of such a valuable source. Sure wish they would copy the Glasnevin records so I can see if any of any of my Catholic relatives show up. Mt. Jerome ...last I was told...is a Protestant cemetery. Does anyone know that for sure? Take care, Flo > I am wondering if Dublin researchers are aware of these films. > > There are three sections to these records which is like a > supplementary death index from 1836 to 1972 alphabetically by year. > The first are the films which cover the Indexes, then the films for > the Registers and thirdly the films for the information about the > graves that we purchased in Perpetuity. > > These latter records will give the date of purchases, how much, by > whom and a list of all those that are buried in the plot. > > Regards Valerie B Garton [ Mrs ] > A/Dip LAH & Dip FHS. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.14/727 - Release Date: 3/19/07 > >

Lynne, Just a small point about one of the entries on your certificates. Your grandfather and grandmother's ages at the time of their marriage was FULL. Being of Full Age simply meant they were over 21. Murtagh Road where your grandmother married from is located almost next to Arbour Hill Prison which is across the road from Collins Barracks. Dartmouth Road is in Ranelagh, only a short walk from Cathal Brugha Barracks in the nearby suburb of Rathmines, which is probably where your grandfather was stationed when he married in June 1917. At that time there was no Irish army; your grandfather would have been a soldier in the British Army, like both my (Irish) grandfathers in that same year. Have you tried contacting the National Archives in Kew for your grandfather's military record? Just to learn a little more about him. The Archives used to be known as the Public Records Office. Sorry, but I can't be of any real help otherwise. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

Hi Lynne, welcome to the Irish genealogy circus! I too have Irish ancestors from around the same time as you. I never knew a lot of my father at all until after he died back in 1976! There are things you can do with those certs you say you have. Firstly, there are two censuses you may be able to check if you have addresses around 1911 and 1901, they may have been living at those stated when they married. Someone may be able to check for them if you ask the List nicely. Your grandfather was in the army as you state, was this the English or the Irish army? The date you give is very close to the Uprising of 1916. A lot of records were lost between then and 1922, the Civil War there. Was the marriage in a registry office or Church, you could write to the Church and ask for a copy of the original register from the Church, that will also cost, mine was ?5, Euros. There may also be other information on the reverse of the register too, I found my grandmother's name that way and where they were from. A good idea would be to visit Dublin and get to the genealogical sites they offer, Joyce House for the civil registers, the Archive centre for censuses, the Library for other issues and of course the Churches. There is also an LDS Family History Centre in Sutton Coldfield that has numerous Irish records, their phone number is 0121 386 4902, they may be able to help. This List is also invaluable for information, all you have to do is ask the questions and hopefully you'll get the answers you want. Then there is www.tiara.ie , which is a site for beginners in Ireland and explains all the sites that may help in your research. Hope this has managed to help you with something. You may also contact me off list or via my site, if you have any more questions that I may be able to help you with. Regards, Michael McAllister www.dig4ancestors.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "lynne beattie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Help me if you can please Hello there First please may I wish you a very happy and healthy 2007. . My name is Lynne Beattie from Nottingham England and I have been trying to research my Irish roots for a very long time and getting it know where. I feel as if I'm on a Merry Go round not feeling very merry though just dizzy around and around. The only truly information that I have on my father is his birth certificate and my grandparents marriage certificate. My father William at Desmond Beatty born 26th March 1921 at number 63 Murtage road Dublin 4. I also have an e-mail from the parish priest at Aughrim Street saying we have an entry his marriage to a Norah Gleeson in the Church of the Sacred Heart Donnybrook Dublin 4 26th June 1946. I have e-mailed the Sacred Heart Donnybrook but have not received any confirmation as of yet. The information that I have for of my grandparent is a very little I'm afraid I didn't even know it then names until I got their marriage certificate. They were married in the Church of Aughrim Street north Dublin on there 15th June 1917. My grandfather was Eugene Lawrence Beatty it just gives his age as fall profession soldier second lieutenant address 27 Dartmouth road his father Michael Beattie occupation Clarke. My grandmother Margaret Staines aged as fall address 63 Murtagh Road her father Edward Staines occupation Clarke. I am going to send this e-mail to as many people as possible church organisations and hopefully people with the surnames involved in the hope of getting a connection or information no matter how small. I am so desperate to find if there was children born to the marriage between William and Nora could have half brothers or half-sisters out there and not know( This saddens me immensely) May I take this opportunity to thank you so very much for reading my e-mail and please feel free to just a ignore it take care. Kind regards Lynne desperate for a connection.

Hello there First please may I wish you a very happy and healthy 2007. . My name is Lynne Beattie from Nottingham England and I have been trying to research my Irish roots for a very long time and getting it know where. I feel as if I'm on a Merry Go round not feeling very merry though just dizzy around and around. The only truly information that I have on my father is his birth certificate and my grandparents marriage certificate. My father William at Desmond Beatty born 26th March 1921 at number 63 Murtage road Dublin 4. I also have an e-mail from the parish priest at Aughrim Street saying we have an entry his marriage to a Norah Gleeson in the Church of the Sacred Heart Donnybrook Dublin 4 26th June 1946. I have e-mailed the Sacred Heart Donnybrook but have not received any confirmation as of yet. The information that I have for of my grandparent is a very little I'm afraid I didn't even know it then names until I got their marriage certificate. They were married in the Church of Aughrim Street north Dublin on there 15th June 1917. My grandfather was Eugene Lawrence Beatty it just gives his age as fall profession soldier second lieutenant address 27 Dartmouth road his father Michael Beattie occupation Clarke. My grandmother Margaret Staines aged as fall address 63 Murtagh Road her father Edward Staines occupation Clarke. I am going to send this e-mail to as many people as possible church organisations and hopefully people with the surnames involved in the hope of getting a connection or information no matter how small. I am so desperate to find if there was children born to the marriage between William and Nora could have half brothers or half-sisters out there and not know( This saddens me immensely) May I take this opportunity to thank you so very much for reading my e-mail and please feel free to just a ignore it take care. Kind regards Lynne desperate for a connection. Hello there First please may I wish you a very happy and healthy 2007. . My name is Lynne Beattie from Nottingham England and I have been trying to research my Irish roots for a very long time and getting it know where. I feel as if I'm on a Merry Go round not feeling very merry though just dizzy around and around. The only truly information that I have on my father is his birth certificate and my grandparents marriage certificate. My father William at Desmond Beatty born 26th March 1921 at number 63 Murtage road Dublin 4. I also have an e-mail from the parish priest at Aughrim Street saying we have an entry his marriage to a Norah Gleeson in the Church of the Sacred Heart Donnybrook Dublin 4 26th June 1946. I have e-mailed the Sacred Heart Donnybrook but have not received any confirmation as of yet. The information that I have for of my grandparent is a very little I'm afraid I didn't even know it then names until I got their marriage certificate. They were married in the Church of Aughrim Street north Dublin on there 15th June 1917. My grandfather was Eugene Lawrence Beatty it just gives his age as fall profession soldier second lieutenant address 27 Dartmouth road his father Michael Beattie occupation Clarke. My grandmother Margaret Staines aged as fall address 63 Murtagh Road her father Edward Staines occupation Clarke. I am going to send this e-mail to as many people as possible church organisations and hopefully people with the surnames involved in the hope of getting a connection or information no matter how small. I am so desperate to find if there was children born to the marriage between William and Nora could have half brothers or half-sisters out there and not know( This saddens me immensely) May I take this opportunity to thank you so very much for reading my e-mail and please feel free to just a ignore it take care. Kind regards Lynne desperate for a connection. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you for your response Stuart, and for the tip about looking into a possible military pension. My grandfather's death is not registered in the indexes, nor is his birth in 1898, which is where my difficulty lies, so there is no reference number to go by. It seems I can not get his birth cert nor his death cert, both of which pieces of paperwork I would really like to have, to substantiate my family history. I never knew the man, as he died before I was born when my mother, his daughter, was only 14. I wonder was there a larger picture happening in Dublin in the mid-1940s that we are currently unaware of? Which might help explain the lack of recording of some people's deaths. I know it was the end of WW2, but Ireland wasn't involved in that. It might just be something innocuous like a clerical error. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia.

I too have a personal experience of trying to obtain the death certificate of my grandmother who died in Dublin in 1944. The GRO in Joyce House said they had looked either side of the death date shown on my grandparents headstone - incidentally it even had the full address of where they lived - but they couldn't find it. Would I like to register it? I didn't bother to do that since we would be travelling to Ireland in a year or so and I would be taking time out to go the Joyce House. Within 10 minutes of arriving at Joyce House (a couple of years later) I had the reference number and shortly after that a photo copy of the Register Entry! If he was in receipt of a military or civilian pension there may well be a record available there. Stuart

Hello list. Can anyone help me to locate the whereabouts of the records from Sir Patrick Dun’s Hospital, now no longer in existence? My grandfather Christopher Dixon died there or before being admitted to there en route from Beggars Bush Barracks where he suffered the heart attack that killed him in 1946. Neither his death nor his birth in 1898 were registered, so it’s really difficult to find those vital records of this man, except that my mother knows he lived because she was his daughter! And thankfully I have some of his WW1 army records. At Joyce House in Dublin where I went recently to try to get my grandfather’s death cert, they told me I could register his death and then get the cert (which sort of defeats the purpose), if I could provide them with certain information. Some of the supporting information required is a medical certificate stating the cause of death. Over 60 years later, that’s a bit of officialdom which is somewhat hard to obtain, but the Superintendent Registrar’s Office recognises this possibility and will accept a statement by the person registering the death, witnessed by a Peace Commissioner or Public Notary as to the ‘probable cause’ of death. Funeral expenses and receipts are another good thing to provide, as is a Memoriam (sometimes called a Mortuary) card, or a photo from the cemetery of the headstone inscribed with particulars of the person in question. Is there anything else I should know before attempting to register my grandfather’s death? Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

I was wondering if anyone might have access to the 1901, 1911 Dublin census and would be willing to lookup my great-grandparents for me. They lived in Lower Palmerstown when my grandfather Timothy was born in 1886/1887. By 1918 (maybe earlier), records show that they had moved to 32 Phoenix Street, Inchicore. Head: Francis (Frank) Dunne Wife: Julia Kelly Dunne Children: Timothy (born 1886/1887), Mary, Annie, Joseph, and John Francis (Frank) appears to have worked for the railroad at the time of my grandfather's birth. If this is too much of an imposition (I'm not sure how accessible the census records are), could someone give me information as to how I can access these records. Of course, please do not incur any costs with regard to this request. If there is an expense associated, I pursue this through alternative means. Thank you for any help you can provide. Best regards, Nancy in Connecticut, USA

Thank you Brian for your response. While the copy of my grandfather's birth certificate does look like C.S.W.R., it is not the original record, so it is possible it is a transcription error. The consensus does seem to be Great Southern & Western Railway and the location makes sense. Additional reading based on an earlier post also supports GS&WR. Now my remaining question is what is the job of a "fitter"? I have read some railway history and fitters are mentioned, but found no details of the job. Thanks again to all who have responded. Best regards, Nancy in the USA IrishRecordFinder <[email protected]> wrote: I'm no expert but I wonder if this should be GS&WR....Great Southern & Western Railway, Inchicore Works. Brian ----- Original Message ---- From: Nancy Dunne To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:57:46 PM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Fitter C.S.W.R. in Dublin Hello All, I was wondering if anyone could help me with my great-grandfather Francis (Frank) Dunne's employment which is listed as "Fitter C.S.W.R." on my grandfather's birth certificate from 1886. At that point the family lived in the Lower Palmerstown section of Dublin, Ireland. Thank you, Nancy Dunne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List. I haven't been on the list for a while. First, let me thank all peoples that over the years have sent me information that slowly pointed me in the the right direction. MY William Hardinge and his family have been a very illusive lot to find but at last I have most of them now. Now I would like some help in finding the family of William's wife, Sarah Maunsell. I have also seen her name as Sarah Powrie Maunsell. She married in 1808 in Dublin. The Hardinge family brought a portrait to New Zealand of a gentleman in a uniform whom we all thought was General John Maunsell because they also brought a harrowing Poem written by Ann 40 Maunsell and a Col of the Dragoon guards about the death of General John Maunsell at Coteau. I have since found out it's not John but Lt- Gen Robert Christopher Maunsell of the 68th Reg. I have found these two are on the same family tree but coming down different lines. I know one must not assume, but I guess my Sarah Maunsell from Limerick must come from this line somewhere. Does anyone have any ideas how to go about finding her and her parents, please. Jeannette NZ