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    1. [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Harford/Moore
    2. Looking for any information on Annie Harford and Peter Moore who married in Dublin around 1915. Peter's father was John Moore and they were living around Newfoundland Street at the time. Any help much appreciated. Lorraine in Sunny Dorset ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only £9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

    06/02/2007 04:54:16
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Skype proposal
    2. Graham Bisset
    3. Hello, Anthony I agree entirely with the content of your email below! I am researching 4 of my mother's family lines in Ireland (McQueen, Haberlin, White, Wildridge) with mixed fortunes! I too have been considering Skype, and how it may help us in our genealogy research. I run an Apple Mac G5 running Mac OS 10.4 and have a 2Mb broadband connection. I have just downloaded Skype for the Mac, have bought a webcam and combined headphones / mic, and hope to find time over the next 2 to 3 weeks to get this all up and running! But I am interested in your ideas! Kind regards Graham Graham Bisset [email protected] On 14 Apr 2007, at 13:12, Anthony J. Roche wrote: > Hi All, > > I have been thinking for some time now of using the Skype system to > increase our contact on the Dublin list. > > For those who don't know Skype herewith a brief description:- > > It is basically what is called 'voice over I.P' or VOIP if you have > an Internet connection, which all of us have, and broadband, which > most of us have, the all we need is to download the Skype software > and this makes it possible to talk (and even see, if we have a web > cam) each other in real time. > > The obvious drawback is that we are a community with such time > variation that getting everyone interested on line at a suitable time > will be difficult, but I am confident that we can still do a lot. > > This is not a proposal to downgrade the list in any way - rather to > make it more attractive by giving a personal touch. > > If anyone is interested in experimenting with this medium of > communication get back to me either through the list or off > list. Lets use technology to make the Dublin list a setter of trends > not a follower! > > Regards > > Anthony J. Roche > Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ > Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    05/29/2007 01:53:29
    1. [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Civil Registration on-line
    2. George Carter
    3. Sometime ago I`m sure I read that the Irish Civil Registration would soon be on-line. Is this still the case? I havn`t heard anything for ages and I`m eagerly awaiting this. George Carter in Whaley Bridge. England. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 27/05/2007 15:05

    05/29/2007 08:52:20
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin
    2. conaught2
    3. Dear Janice, It is good to know there is another from John Caughey's old list. Your quest of your Quest family is very interesting. Your family research has led you to learn many interesting and sad things about family members. For me that is the essence of family research. Many years ago I read about James Dowdall of Drogheda who was martyred in Exeter in 1599. He was listed with the Irish martyrs for beatification but kept slipping between the cracks. The more than 10 year research led to the material being published in Seanchas Ard Mhacha (Armagh Diocsean Historical Journal) and I am now working to have his cause reopened. After the article was published an ecclesiatical scholar who devoted his life to documenting the lives of the Irish martyrs did some further research and found that James Dowdall had been elevated to Venerable in the English Catholic Church. This was a wonderful discovery because the Vatican and others in Ireland had not been aware of this fact. It is wonderful that you were able to find information on microfilm even though it broke your heart to read about the sadness in their lives. We are who we are, because of those who came before us. They are a part of us. Thank you again for the Dowdall information. You never know when you come across something which will help in your family research. I hope you are able to locate the records you need. Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin Hello, Margaret. Haven't 'seen' you for a long time. We were once members of John Caughey's IRELAND list before the 'troubles' [controversy]. Hope you are well. I've made great progress in my ancestry quest. Amazingly, my latest was a marriage in WMeath of my Gr.Gr. Grandparents in 1827 where my Gr.Gr.Grandmother's maiden name was QUEST! :). It is a VERY rare name was spelt several ways but I was informed that QUEST was the correct spelling. It's the information re her son, my Gr.Grandfather whose marriage I've been unable to unearth. Now I am quite convinced that it took place in Dublin.....and need to keep up that search as well as the birth of their first 'known' son, John. Marriage was c1861 and John's birth c1862. John is very personal to me as he was a very dear brother of my GM. They both immigrated to Boston and John's lot was so very sad.......Has anyone ever burst into tears reading the microfilms in a very silent archives repository? It was so hurtful to learn of those heartaches of more than a century ago. Sorry to be so dreary. But I have developed a great love and pride in these courageous family members....they are MY roots. God Bless you, Margaret. Thanks for you very comprehensive response. We have a DOWDALL company around here that has many outlets and trucks. I know them as kings of the industrial waste business. I often wondered about the name DOWDALL and dismissed it as being perhaps of German or Dutch lineage. But in some Dublin records I did come across it ....and thought 'A-hah'....it's Irish'. LOL Janice In very summery Boston

    05/29/2007 05:05:05
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin
    2. Hello, Margaret. Haven't 'seen' you for a long time. We were once members of John Caughey's IRELAND list before the 'troubles' [controversy]. Hope you are well. I've made great progress in my ancestry quest. Amazingly, my latest was a marriage in WMeath of my Gr.Gr. Grandparents in 1827 where my Gr.Gr.Grandmother's maiden name was QUEST! :). It is a VERY rare name was spelt several ways but I was informed that QUEST was the correct spelling. It's the information re her son, my Gr.Grandfather whose marriage I've been unable to unearth. Now I am quite convinced that it took place in Dublin.....and need to keep up that search as well as the birth of their first 'known' son, John. Marriage was c1861 and John's birth c1862. John is very personal to me as he was a very dear brother of my GM. They both immigrated to Boston and John's lot was so very sad.......Has anyone ever burst into tears reading the microfilms in a very silent archives repository? It was so hurtful to learn of those heartaches of more than a century ago. Sorry to be so dreary. But I have developed a great love and pride in these courageous family members....they are MY roots. God Bless you, Margaret. Thanks for you very comprehensive response. We have a DOWDALL company around here that has many outlets and trucks. I know them as kings of the industrial waste business. I often wondered about the name DOWDALL and dismissed it as being perhaps of German or Dutch lineage. But in some Dublin records I did come across it ....and thought 'A-hah'....it's Irish'. LOL Janice In very summery Boston In a message dated 5/29/2007 12:35:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Paddy and Janice, Thank you for the very helpful information Janice. Paddy, my Mom was a Dowdall. The first recorded Dowdall in Ireland was in 1215. Dowdall is a Norman name and they came shortly after Strongbow and managed lands for the de Verdon family in the Dundalk, County Louth area. As they married they gained land through the marriages and the younger sons branched out to other areas of County Louth, Meath, Westmeath and Dublin. All the County Louth Dowdalls were cousins. There have been many notable Dowdalls; among them are: 1.George Dowdall, Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of Ireland during the reigns of Henry VIII, part of Edward VI and again during Mary's bief reign - 1553-1558 2. William Dowdall - Robert Emmet's co-conspirator during the 1802 Uprising 3. Venerable James Dowdall of Drogheda; martyred in Exeter in 1599 for refusing to take the supremacy oath, placing Elizabeth above the pope in spiritual matters. (for full details see www.jamesdowdallmartyr.com) *(In the mid 1500s another Dowdall, Captain John Dowdall of Shirwell Parish, England came to Ireland in Queen E;iizabeth's army. His brother James Dowdall was one of Arthur Chichester's planters in Dungannon; presently in County Tyrone. Captain John Dowdall's family is found mostly in County Waterford and Limerick.) I am in contact with cousins of the Dublin Dowdalls of 23 Meath Street, St. Catherine's Parish,Tivoli, Harold's Cross, Dublin and Balbriggan, Dublin. There was a Patrick Dowdall of 23 Meath Street whose son Fr. Patrick Dowdall died from Italian Fever,when he died Patrick was so devastated he closed his silk factory on Meath Street and moved to Tivoli, Harold's Cross, Dublin where he died in 1856. I don't have Patrick's wife's name. I am sure your Patrick, Christopher and Lucy must be closely related to the above mentioned Dowdalls. The following is a listing of some of the Dowdalls in Dublin in 1820 and 1850 Wilson's Directory 1820 Name Address Occupation Dowdall, Peter Harold's Cross Esq. Dowdall E. & Son 23 Mecklenburgh St Silk Manuacturers Dowdall Hugh; 18 St. Francis St. Flax, Hemp and Rope Mfr. Dowdall Pat. 32 Mecklenburgh St Esq. (could be same as 23 with Dowdall Peter Harold's Cross Esq. Dowdall Rev. Dr. 15 Kildare St. Revd. Dublin City Directory 1850 Dowdall, Nicholas 2 Patrick Street E. 11 Britain St, Lower Robert, 108 New St. Christopher 9 Trinity Place Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin > > > > Hello Paddy in Hobart, Tas..... > > The city of Dublin has multiple parishes, both civil and religious. When a > civil record is quoted it could be either. > > I was recently in Dublin and surprised to learn that Dowdall is indeed an > Irish surname. {I don't know what nationality I thought it was...:) ) > > St. Catherine's RC church is on Meath Street in Dublin South. The secretary > there is very accomodating and you may get good results by writing an > inquiry. With the date of death/burial you could also get a record from the > cemetery. For that time period I would guess that Glasnevin would be the one as I > found an 1886 burial when I visited there. That area of Dublin is the > 'tenement' and or Liberties neighborhood of old. > > There is also information online re the RC diocese of Dublin. > > Best of Luck, Paddy. > > Janice > Boston, MA USA > > In a message dated 5/24/2007 8:14:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > When exploring Dublin Heritage I came across a possible clue about a > g.g.grandmother, Lucy Dowdall' death. This Lucy died and was buried on > 22-12-1879. She was from the parish of St Catherines. > > A couple of questions before I go racing off to purchase a death > certificate: > > 1) does anybody else lay claim to her or know anything about her? > > 2) is there any way of finding out more about her on the basis of this > information alone? > > 3) where is the parish of St Catherine's in Dublin. > > 4) was it usual for people to be buried on the day they died? > > When my great grandfather's elder brother Christopher (his mother and > father were Patrick and Lucy) enlisted in the army in Melbourne > Australia, he gave his place of birth as Parish of Dublin. Would this > be a different place? > > Paddy > Hobart, TAS > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/29/2007 03:25:16
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin
    2. conaught2
    3. Hi Paddy and Janice, Thank you for the very helpful information Janice. Paddy, my Mom was a Dowdall. The first recorded Dowdall in Ireland was in 1215. Dowdall is a Norman name and they came shortly after Strongbow and managed lands for the de Verdon family in the Dundalk, County Louth area. As they married they gained land through the marriages and the younger sons branched out to other areas of County Louth, Meath, Westmeath and Dublin. All the County Louth Dowdalls were cousins. There have been many notable Dowdalls; among them are: 1.George Dowdall, Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of Ireland during the reigns of Henry VIII, part of Edward VI and again during Mary's bief reign - 1553-1558 2. William Dowdall - Robert Emmet's co-conspirator during the 1802 Uprising 3. Venerable James Dowdall of Drogheda; martyred in Exeter in 1599 for refusing to take the supremacy oath, placing Elizabeth above the pope in spiritual matters. (for full details see www.jamesdowdallmartyr.com) *(In the mid 1500s another Dowdall, Captain John Dowdall of Shirwell Parish, England came to Ireland in Queen E;iizabeth's army. His brother James Dowdall was one of Arthur Chichester's planters in Dungannon; presently in County Tyrone. Captain John Dowdall's family is found mostly in County Waterford and Limerick.) I am in contact with cousins of the Dublin Dowdalls of 23 Meath Street, St. Catherine's Parish,Tivoli, Harold's Cross, Dublin and Balbriggan, Dublin. There was a Patrick Dowdall of 23 Meath Street whose son Fr. Patrick Dowdall died from Italian Fever,when he died Patrick was so devastated he closed his silk factory on Meath Street and moved to Tivoli, Harold's Cross, Dublin where he died in 1856. I don't have Patrick's wife's name. I am sure your Patrick, Christopher and Lucy must be closely related to the above mentioned Dowdalls. The following is a listing of some of the Dowdalls in Dublin in 1820 and 1850 Wilson's Directory 1820 Name Address Occupation Dowdall, Peter Harold's Cross Esq. Dowdall E. & Son 23 Mecklenburgh St Silk Manuacturers Dowdall Hugh; 18 St. Francis St. Flax, Hemp and Rope Mfr. Dowdall Pat. 32 Mecklenburgh St Esq. (could be same as 23 with Dowdall Peter Harold's Cross Esq. Dowdall Rev. Dr. 15 Kildare St. Revd. Dublin City Directory 1850 Dowdall, Nicholas 2 Patrick Street E. 11 Britain St, Lower Robert, 108 New St. Christopher 9 Trinity Place Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin > > > > Hello Paddy in Hobart, Tas..... > > The city of Dublin has multiple parishes, both civil and religious. When a > civil record is quoted it could be either. > > I was recently in Dublin and surprised to learn that Dowdall is indeed an > Irish surname. {I don't know what nationality I thought it was...:) ) > > St. Catherine's RC church is on Meath Street in Dublin South. The secretary > there is very accomodating and you may get good results by writing an > inquiry. With the date of death/burial you could also get a record from the > cemetery. For that time period I would guess that Glasnevin would be the one as I > found an 1886 burial when I visited there. That area of Dublin is the > 'tenement' and or Liberties neighborhood of old. > > There is also information online re the RC diocese of Dublin. > > Best of Luck, Paddy. > > Janice > Boston, MA USA > > In a message dated 5/24/2007 8:14:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > When exploring Dublin Heritage I came across a possible clue about a > g.g.grandmother, Lucy Dowdall' death. This Lucy died and was buried on > 22-12-1879. She was from the parish of St Catherines. > > A couple of questions before I go racing off to purchase a death > certificate: > > 1) does anybody else lay claim to her or know anything about her? > > 2) is there any way of finding out more about her on the basis of this > information alone? > > 3) where is the parish of St Catherine's in Dublin. > > 4) was it usual for people to be buried on the day they died? > > When my great grandfather's elder brother Christopher (his mother and > father were Patrick and Lucy) enlisted in the army in Melbourne > Australia, he gave his place of birth as Parish of Dublin. Would this > be a different place? > > Paddy > Hobart, TAS > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/28/2007 03:34:06
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin
    2. Hello Paddy in Hobart, Tas..... The city of Dublin has multiple parishes, both civil and religious. When a civil record is quoted it could be either. I was recently in Dublin and surprised to learn that Dowdall is indeed an Irish surname. {I don't know what nationality I thought it was...:) ) St. Catherine's RC church is on Meath Street in Dublin South. The secretary there is very accomodating and you may get good results by writing an inquiry. With the date of death/burial you could also get a record from the cemetery. For that time period I would guess that Glasnevin would be the one as I found an 1886 burial when I visited there. That area of Dublin is the 'tenement' and or Liberties neighborhood of old. There is also information online re the RC diocese of Dublin. Best of Luck, Paddy. Janice Boston, MA USA In a message dated 5/24/2007 8:14:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: When exploring Dublin Heritage I came across a possible clue about a g.g.grandmother, Lucy Dowdall' death. This Lucy died and was buried on 22-12-1879. She was from the parish of St Catherines. A couple of questions before I go racing off to purchase a death certificate: 1) does anybody else lay claim to her or know anything about her? 2) is there any way of finding out more about her on the basis of this information alone? 3) where is the parish of St Catherine's in Dublin. 4) was it usual for people to be buried on the day they died? When my great grandfather's elder brother Christopher (his mother and father were Patrick and Lucy) enlisted in the army in Melbourne Australia, he gave his place of birth as Parish of Dublin. Would this be a different place? Paddy Hobart, TAS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/27/2007 10:34:37
    1. [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Registry of Deeds
    2. Valerie Garton
    3. Hi everyone. I have been doing a lot of research with Registry of Deeds and have found some wonderful deeds giving family relationships. If a man had a marriage settlement which created a deed would there be another one when he died and if so under which name would it be indexed - his or his wife's ? and have found some wonderful deeds giving family relationships. If a man had a marriage settlement which created a deed would there be another one when he died and if so under which name would it be indexed - his or his wife's ? Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. [email protected]

    05/27/2007 01:31:00
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Carroll
    2. Debby Raymond
    3. It became compulsory in Ireland for births, marriages and deaths to be registered for everybody from 1864 regardless of religious affiliation. For those belonging to the established church (the Church of Ireland) marriages were recorded from 1845. It would help therefore to know what religion your William Carroll and Ann Castle were. It would narrow the search even further if you knew what parish they lived in. Do you have the address they were living at when their first child was born? That would be an indication. I have a William Castles in my family background, not that that necessarily helps you. He married Elizabeth Kieran in 1871, so was probably born before 1850. His parents were Peter Castles & Esther Beakey. He was of Bloomfield Ave, Dublin at the time of his marriage. His wealthy father-in-law can't have liked him much. William and Elizabeth inherited exactly one shilling on his death...! Good luck in your research. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia.

    05/25/2007 01:54:11
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin
    2. P C & P Byers
    3. Thank you Debby. I appreciate your suggestions. Paddy On 25/05/2007, at 4:53 PM, Debby Raymond wrote: The Irish index to civil registrations of births, marriages and deaths can be ordered in to family history centres of the LDS church. Perhaps you can get to one? Or some kind soul might look this up for you. The death registration records the person's age at death and their marital status. Because you know when Lucy was buried you would be able to work out from death registrations when she was born. Lucy died so late in the year it's likely that her death wasn't registered until early the following year, so I would check out both years. That's if she has indeed been registered. It's worth bearing in mind that up to 15% of life events in Ireland were never registered at all. As far as I know, parishes all had saints' names, such as 'parish of St. Catherine, Dublin'. It doesn't seem right me that there was such a place as Parish of Dublin. It looks like the saint's name of that particular Dublin parish was left out. I would be reluctant myself to invest in a death certificate until you have as much information as possible, to be sure that this person is indeed your ancestor. Have you looked at the IGI to see if there's anything about her and her family there? Best wishes in your quest. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2007 12:43:47
    1. [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Irish index to civil registrations of births, marriages and deaths
    2. Valerie Garton
    3. I am happy to do lookups for people the next time I visit Parramatta which hopefully may be next week. BBBBBUUUUUTTTTT !!!!! I need everyone to send me a direct email for each inquiry to [email protected] with the exact above subject line and fill in the following: Subject: [ birth, marriage or death] Year: Surname: Christian name: Surname: Christian name: [the above for marriages only] Father: Mother: Place: Please only fill in this exact information above and add any comments etc under here: I will try this again BUT the last time I volunteered I received messages to the Dublin list, or sent to me personally with the wrong subject line, a whole story about the person with the date somewhere in the message etc. Please adhere to the above as it makes it so much quicker for me and therefore I can get through more queries. I will be printing out each individual request on pink, blue or green paper depending on the subject then sorting them in to subjects, then years then alphabetically. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Debby Raymond Sent: Friday, 25 May 2007 4:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin The Irish index to civil registrations of births, marriages and deaths can be ordered in to family history centres of the LDS church. Perhaps you can get to one? Or some kind soul might look this up for you. The death registration records the person's age at death and their marital status. Because you know when Lucy was buried you would be able to work out from death registrations when she was born. Lucy died so late in the year it's likely that her death wasn't registered until early the following year, so I would check out both years. That's if she has indeed been registered. It's worth bearing in mind that up to 15% of life events in Ireland were never registered at all. As far as I know, parishes all had saints' names, such as 'parish of St. Catherine, Dublin'. It doesn't seem right me that there was such a place as Parish of Dublin. It looks like the saint's name of that particular Dublin parish was left out. I would be reluctant myself to invest in a death certificate until you have as much information as possible, to be sure that this person is indeed your ancestor. Have you looked at the IGI to see if there's anything about her and her family there? Best wishes in your quest. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2007 12:13:06
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin
    2. Debby Raymond
    3. The Irish index to civil registrations of births, marriages and deaths can be ordered in to family history centres of the LDS church. Perhaps you can get to one? Or some kind soul might look this up for you. The death registration records the person's age at death and their marital status. Because you know when Lucy was buried you would be able to work out from death registrations when she was born. Lucy died so late in the year it's likely that her death wasn't registered until early the following year, so I would check out both years. That's if she has indeed been registered. It's worth bearing in mind that up to 15% of life events in Ireland were never registered at all. As far as I know, parishes all had saints' names, such as 'parish of St. Catherine, Dublin'. It doesn't seem right me that there was such a place as Parish of Dublin. It looks like the saint's name of that particular Dublin parish was left out. I would be reluctant myself to invest in a death certificate until you have as much information as possible, to be sure that this person is indeed your ancestor. Have you looked at the IGI to see if there's anything about her and her family there? Best wishes in your quest. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

    05/25/2007 10:53:19
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Clondalkin Catholic Parish & Lucan & Lusk - thanks for advice
    2. Perplexed
    3. Debby many thanks for your advice. I'll have to try and narrow the parents down to see which village they came from. Anne

    05/25/2007 05:41:48
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Carroll
    2. carolyn
    3. Debby This is the problem. When Thomas Carroll was born in 1855 it was in Liverpool. I have found a census 1861 with Ann on it and she is from Ireland. The family always believed Dublin so that's the first port of call. I dont know where else to go to look. Thomas married in a Roman Catholic church in Liverpool in 1887. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Debby Raymond To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Carroll It became compulsory in Ireland for births, marriages and deaths to be registered for everybody from 1864 regardless of religious affiliation. For those belonging to the established church (the Church of Ireland) marriages were recorded from 1845. It would help therefore to know what religion your William Carroll and Ann Castle were. It would narrow the search even further if you knew what parish they lived in. Do you have the address they were living at when their first child was born? That would be an indication. I have a William Castles in my family background, not that that necessarily helps you. He married Elizabeth Kieran in 1871, so was probably born before 1850. His parents were Peter Castles & Esther Beakey. He was of Bloomfield Ave, Dublin at the time of his marriage. His wealthy father-in-law can't have liked him much. William and Elizabeth inherited exactly one shilling on his death...! Good luck in your research. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2007 05:11:29
    1. [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] St Catherine's parish Dublin
    2. P C & P Byers
    3. When exploring Dublin Heritage I came across a possible clue about a g.g.grandmother, Lucy Dowdall' death. This Lucy died and was buried on 22-12-1879. She was from the parish of St Catherines. A couple of questions before I go racing off to purchase a death certificate: 1) does anybody else lay claim to her or know anything about her? 2) is there any way of finding out more about her on the basis of this information alone? 3) where is the parish of St Catherine's in Dublin. 4) was it usual for people to be buried on the day they died? When my great grandfather's elder brother Christopher (his mother and father were Patrick and Lucy) enlisted in the army in Melbourne Australia, he gave his place of birth as Parish of Dublin. Would this be a different place? Paddy Hobart, TAS

    05/25/2007 04:11:24
    1. [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Carroll
    2. carolyn
    3. Hello List. I was hoping that someone maybe be able to help. I now know that William Carroll married an Ann Castle probably late 1840's and probably in Dublin. Would anyone be able to help me find their marriage? Thanks Carolyn

    05/25/2007 02:33:01
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Clondalkin Catholic Parish & Lucan & Lusk
    2. Debby Raymond
    3. Lusk is a village in north county Dublin on the east coast of Ireland, about 30 miles north of Dublin city. Lucan is about 10 miles directly west of Dublin on the south bank of the river Liffey. It's now a Dublin suburb but was formerly a village. Clondalkin is about 8 miles west south west of Dublin city, again formerly a village but now assumed into Dublin. It's postal code is Dublin 24. My ancestors who were born in Lusk in the 1870s were all baptised in the Catholic church of St. Patrick in Skerries, north county Dublin. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

    05/24/2007 06:06:10
    1. [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Clondalkin Catholic Parish and two addresses of Lukan & Lusk - advice sought about these
    2. Perplexed
    3. Hi all - thanks to a web address provided by another lister I think I might have traced an elusive ancestor. Annie Helena Smyth emigrated in the 1870s to Cooktown Queensland. She came out as a governess. I know she was from Dublin and have just had found the Dublin library bdm information following a post from another lister. I emailed the library asking about two Anne Smythes born at the right time for my Annie Helena. They extremely promptly came back and advised the following: Anne Smyth Address: Lucan Date of Birth: 20/07//1858 Date of Baptism: 01/08/1858 Mother: Mary Harris Father: Philip Smyth Anne Smyth Address: Lusk Date of Birth: 15/08/1858 Date of Baptism: 24/08/1858 Mother: Mary-anne Carroll Father: Robert Smyth I'm interested in finding information about the Catholic Parish. I've googled Clondalkin & Lukan and Lusk and can see where they are. I've looked at Wiki for a potted history (very short) of Clondalkin. I looked at http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/county/dublin/dubrc.html and I'm not clear whether Clondalkin/Lukan/Lusk are city or country. I'd appreciate advice on this. What was the area like in the 1850s? Thanks all Anne

    05/24/2007 05:05:46
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Records of St Andrew's, Dublin
    2. Debby Raymond
    3. There were two St. Andrew's churches in Dublin at one time, and possibly more. The church on Westland Row, just north of the Liffey, is called St. Andrews and is Catholic, though I don't know how old it is. Over a hundred years, I imagine. Can send a photo, if you like. What now serves as a tourist information centre on the corner of Suffolk St, near Trinity College and just south of the Liffey, used to be St. Andrew's church (Protestant, but I don't know what denomination). I think it was deconsecrated about 30 or so years ago, but was serving a religious purpose for over a hundred years before that and maybe much longer. I don't know where the burial grounds might be for either of these churches. You could try to access Lord Walter Fitzgerald's Memorials of the Dead, or try looking up Glasnevin cemetery online, which is perhaps Dublin's largest cemetery. Good luck! Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia.

    05/23/2007 07:22:57
    1. [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Reddy, Levey, Corbally
    2. Debby Raymond
    3. Hi Nancy and Patsy, I was so interested to read your posts. Thanks Nancy for making me use for the first time the Dublin heritage site http://www.dublinheritage.ie/. I was delighted to find they have some records from before the start of civil registration. I too, have a Reddy in my family history; my gt-gt-grandmother Julia Reddy. She was born ca1830, so would have been a contemporary of Dennis Kelly and Mary Reddy, or possibly even a relative. Julia's parents were Joseph Reddy and Mary Matthews. I don't have any information on possible siblings of Julia's. Julia married firstly a fellow called Doyle, when she was apparently only 16, with whom she had a son called Patsy. Widowed young, Julia secondly married ca1852 my gt-gt-grandfather Thomas Levey with whom she had five children: Fred, Mary, Julia, Elizabeth and Joseph. Thomas Levey's parents were Joseph (or perhaps John) Levey and Mary Corbally. This Mary's sister (Elizabeth Corbally according to family sources but Louisa Emilia Corbally according to Burke's Peerage) married the 9th Earl of Fingall. This is according to family lore from my grandmother. If anyone knows anything of any of these people I would be very glad to hear more. Names researched, all in Ireland: CAFFREY, CORBALLY, DIXON, GAYNOR, LEECH, LEVEY, RAYMOND, TIGHE, WOODLOCK. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia.

    05/23/2007 11:11:01