I know a recorded death is a recorded death but a lot can be learnt from locating a headstone and Rootsweb have an Irish Headstone, Obit and Cemetery list and perhaps a look at some of those archives, may show you that their are some good lists with names in them which record the deaths as well as headstones. So perhaps one needs to widen their lists subscriptions at times to see what is available via Rootsweb home page. Thankyou Cara

Sorry but I deleted previous posts Can SKS please list the URLs for Dublin data again. Particularly interested in births and marriages online. murf ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 3:11 AM Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Marriages (Anthony J. Roche) > 2. Re: Marriage Mystery (SEAN BURDOCK) > 3. Re: Marriage Mystery (Debby Raymond) > 4. Re: Marriage Mystery (Judy Geddes) > 5. Re: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 (Dennis Murphy) > 6. Re: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 (Anthony J. Roche) > 7. 1911 Census (Judy Geddes) > 8. Re: 1911 Census, Leinster Square (Debby Raymond) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:26:43 +0100 > From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 22:53 03/08/2007, you wrote: >>Hello All >> >>Can anyone advise if any marriage and death records are available online, >>apart from the ones on familysearch.org >> >>I am looking specifically for a marriage between a John Gibbons & Honora >>Gorman and their deaths in Dublin approx 1867 (marriage) and 1900 (death). >>They were my GG grandparents. > > There are no BMDs for Ireland on line at present, there is the > prospect of these in the not to distant future but for now all you > can do is order requerst a search or order a cert from the GRO > website which is as follows > http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm > > Regards > > Anthony J. Roche > Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ > Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:21:48 +0100 (BST) > From: SEAN BURDOCK <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Anthony, > > Hope your recent trip to this side of the water was fruitful > > When myself and my brother Joey were at the GRO in september 2005. We had > to provide two names to locate and get a copy of my grandparents marriage > in 1897. Would what you are saying apply when I apply for certificates for > my Great grand parents? > > Sean Burdock Hastings, east sussex england > > "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> wrote: > At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >>Hi Listers, >> >>While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >>David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >>Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >>was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 >>1902, >>vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can >>I >>find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >>page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. > > The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the > one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if > they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in > Dublin > > Regards > Anthony > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Sean Burdock > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 22:26:34 +1000 > From: "Debby Raymond" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My experience at Dublin's GRO is that you only have to provide the > name of one of the participants to a marriage. From their registers, > they can then provide you with the name of the other party and all the > other relevant details. > > Debby Raymond, > Queensland, Australia > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:33:36 -0600 > From: Judy Geddes <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Anthony > Thank you for the advice - this is just the best news -I'll give it a > lash! > > Cheers, Judy in Alberta > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony J. > Roche > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery > > At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >>Hi Listers, >> >>While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >>David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >>Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >>was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 > 1902, >>vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can > I >>find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >>page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. > > The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the > one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if > they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in > Dublin > > Regards > Anthony > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:05:40 -0400 > From: "Dennis Murphy" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue > 113 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Ditto to the online marriage records > > Are they available for County Dublin? City of Dublin? > > murf > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:12 AM > Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Civil Register page (Michael McAllister) >> 2. Marriage Mystery (Judy Geddes) >> 3. Re: Marriage Mystery (Anthony J. Roche) >> 4. Moore/Blake Marriage Reference (Anne Griffin) >> 5. Marriages (Robin Beard) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:48:47 +0100 >> From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Civil Register page >> To: "Dublin City List" <[email protected]>, "Belfast >> List" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> Hi List, I wonder if someone, somewhere would check a page of the Civil >> Registers for me please. >> The copy I viewed through an LDS FHC at nearby Sutton Coldfield was a >> little torn and wonder if all the original was torn as well ! >> >> The page is from the Births section of the third quarter from 1900, >> bottom left hand side of the page number 40, >> name McALISTER/McALLISTER. >> >> If someone has an undamaged page would/could they copy or transcibe the >> section of the page for me please? >> It would hep me possibly track down some family members (hopefully). >> In anticipation, many thanks. >> Michael McAllister >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:33:53 -0600 >> From: Judy Geddes <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi Listers, >> >> While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >> David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >> Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >> was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 >> 1902, >> vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how >> can >> I >> find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >> page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. >> Igy came to Canada sometime between 1912-1918, settled in Winnipeg and >> married (?) Samuel Budd. I haven't been able to find her immigration >> records yet, or a marriage in Winnipeg. Any ideas/suggestions will be >> appreciated!! >> >> Cheers, Judy in Alberta >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:35:13 +0100 >> From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >>>Hi Listers, >>> >>>While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >>>David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >>>Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >>>was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 >>>1902, >>>vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how >>>can >>>I >>>find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >>>page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. >> >> The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the >> one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if >> they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in >> Dublin >> >> Regards >> Anthony >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:13:59 +0100 >> From: "Anne Griffin" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Moore/Blake Marriage Reference >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> Hi there, >> >> I am in the UK and was wondering if some kind soul out there whilst doing >> their own research can look up a marriage for me??? >> >> The families appear to be Dublin born & bred. The names of the persons >> married are as follows - Hilda MOORE & Walter James BLAKE. >> >> We don't know a year of marriage but are pretty certain they are married >> by 1921 as they definitely had had 6 children by 1929. >> >> Also, if there is anyone else out there researching these names it would >> be great to hear from you. >> >> Thank you very much for your kindness. >> >> Anne. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:53:30 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) >> From: "Robin Beard" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriages >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hello All >> >> Can anyone advise if any marriage and death records are available online, >> apart from the ones on familysearch.org >> >> I am looking specifically for a marriage between a John Gibbons & Honora >> Gorman and their deaths in Dublin approx 1867 (marriage) and 1900 >> (death). >> They were my GG grandparents. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Many Thanks >> Robin >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 >> *********************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:08:02 +0100 > From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue > 113 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 22:05 04/08/2007, you wrote: >>Ditto to the online marriage records >> >>Are they available for County Dublin? City of Dublin? > > Ditto reply - see my earlier post > > Regards > > Anthony J. Roche > Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ > Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:16:28 -0600 > From: Judy Geddes <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] 1911 Census > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Listers > > On my grandmother's marriage certificate she was living at 19 Leinster Sq. > in 1907, her sister Jessie was married in 1906 and her certificate says > she > was living at the same address. In 1917 my uncle Edwin was having his > cheques sent to his wife at that same address. I tried ordering film to > see > the details in the 1911 census but I'm not having good success. It might > be > because I'm not searching the correct townland or parish. I have > reference > to the parish of Rathfarnham on both marriage certificates but the address > the cheques were sent to said Rathmines. Can anyone tell me the correct > way > to search this address in Co Dublin? Many thanks! > > Cheers, > > Judy in Alberta > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 12:39:31 +1000 > From: "Debby Raymond" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] 1911 Census, Leinster Square > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Leinster Road and Leinster Square are an interest of mine. They are > both definitely in Rathmines. Our ancestor Peggy McCullen was living > at 5 Leinster Square at the time of her marriage to George Kavanagh in > 1932. He had been reared in 60 Leinster Road from 1917. Earlier, in > the 1870's, a possible Raymond ancestor of ours was living at 125 > Leinster Road. The houses of this area were terraced for the most > part, three or four storeys high, large and quite grand. Rathmines was > therefore considered to be a fairly salubrious place to live. > > > > Here's another possible approach to finding out more about the address > you're interested in. I was able to carry out some productive research > at the Valuation Office, Block 2, Irish Life Centre, Lr. Abbey St. > Dublin (Phone ++ 353 1 817 1000) some time ago. I found the names of > the owners of all the properties I was interested in, and what dates > they lived there. My research was most fruitful. The only problem is > that it has to be done in person. > > > >>From that office, the Valuation Lists 1873 - 1887 Vol 1, said that > this area is in the Parish of St. Peter's and the Townland is > Rathmines. > > > > Hope that helps you somewhat. > > > > Debby Raymond, > > Queensland, Australia. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 > ***********************************************

Leinster Road and Leinster Square are an interest of mine. They are both definitely in Rathmines. Our ancestor Peggy McCullen was living at 5 Leinster Square at the time of her marriage to George Kavanagh in 1932. He had been reared in 60 Leinster Road from 1917. Earlier, in the 1870's, a possible Raymond ancestor of ours was living at 125 Leinster Road. The houses of this area were terraced for the most part, three or four storeys high, large and quite grand. Rathmines was therefore considered to be a fairly salubrious place to live. Here's another possible approach to finding out more about the address you're interested in. I was able to carry out some productive research at the Valuation Office, Block 2, Irish Life Centre, Lr. Abbey St. Dublin (Phone ++ 353 1 817 1000) some time ago. I found the names of the owners of all the properties I was interested in, and what dates they lived there. My research was most fruitful. The only problem is that it has to be done in person. >From that office, the Valuation Lists 1873 - 1887 Vol 1, said that this area is in the Parish of St. Peter's and the Townland is Rathmines. Hope that helps you somewhat. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia.

The search for Patrick Wosser, of Dungarvan. Patrick Anthony Wosser was born in Parsley Lane Dungarvan on the 13th June in 1920. His father was John Wosser and his mother's maiden name was Helena Dwyer. Certainly, the Surname 'Wosser' is an unusual surname and not at all associated with Dungarvan town. However, his mother's name 'Dwyer' may strike a note with someone in the town. The family apparently did not stay long in Dungarvan after the year of his birth, and I could find no entries for that surname in the 1901/1911, census. We do know that his father was a fitter and it is quite probable that he may have come here to work with a particular Company, and later was transferred back to Dublin. This of course is pure supposition on my part. In a recent publication by Peter Roebuck & Mike Kilduff on 'The Salesian Cemetery at Shrigley' Manchester, a chapter deals with sad story of Patrick who -the author's say- "was one of those boys who made their way to Shrigley via an overnight ferry trip from Dublin to Liverpool. The Salesian Missionary College at Shrigley Park in Cheshire (near Macclesfield was a junior seminary run by the Salesians of Don Bosco. Before the Salesians in Ireland established their own novitiate at Ballinakill c.1940, Shrigley recruited very heavily in Ireland, South and North: the chief recruiter was a charismatic Maltese Salesian, Fr. Joseph Ciantar, who some people may still remember. Shrigley had many strong supporters and benefactors in Ireland during the 1930s, including the famous Alfie Byrne, Lord Mayor of Dublin, who visited the College on more than one occasion. Patrick crossed the Irish sea three times: once in August/September 1933 when he was first admitted to the College and enrolled in Lower Elements; again in July 1934 when he returned home for his only summer vacation from Shrigley; and finally in the following September when he returned to join Upper Elements. He died on 5 December 1934, of 'Acute Rheumatic carditis aged fourteen. The authors also say that there are very few traces of him in the Salesian archives and despite extended efforts, they have been unable to trace any of his relatives. They also write that they do not know how many brothers and/or sisters he had, but at his death he was described as the 'eldest son'. This clearly indicates that Patrick had siblings and that it is very likely that somewhere in Ireland there are surviving relatives. Patrick Wosser was the third boy to die at Shrigley during the 1930s and Peter & Mike have been unable to create a full profile of Patrick through lack of any solid evidence. Peter informed me that they exhausted all lines of enquiry prior to the launch of the book and that 'Sadly, of the boys buried there, Patrick Wosser was the only one with no relative to lay our flowers on his grave during the special service which we organised for the Re-Union weekend'. I would ask anyone who may have any information to please contact me. Patrick's address at the time of his death was 5, Petrie road , South Circular Road Dublin Eddie Cantwell, 058 42685 Or [email protected]

Hi Dennis, did I give the impression that these births indexes were online? If I did then I must apologise, they are not online! They were made available to me via a local LDS FHC on film and I noticed that the film copy of the register was damaged! Regards, Michael McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 > Ditto to the online marriage records > > Are they available for County Dublin? City of Dublin? > > murf > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:12 AM > Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Civil Register page (Michael McAllister) >> 2. Marriage Mystery (Judy Geddes) >> 3. Re: Marriage Mystery (Anthony J. Roche) >> 4. Moore/Blake Marriage Reference (Anne Griffin) >> 5. Marriages (Robin Beard) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:48:47 +0100 >> From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Civil Register page >> To: "Dublin City List" <[email protected]>, "Belfast >> List" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> Hi List, I wonder if someone, somewhere would check a page of the Civil >> Registers for me please. >> The copy I viewed through an LDS FHC at nearby Sutton Coldfield was a >> little torn and wonder if all the original was torn as well ! >> >> The page is from the Births section of the third quarter from 1900, >> bottom left hand side of the page number 40, >> name McALISTER/McALLISTER. >> >> If someone has an undamaged page would/could they copy or transcibe the >> section of the page for me please? >> It would hep me possibly track down some family members (hopefully). >> In anticipation, many thanks. >> Michael McAllister >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:33:53 -0600 >> From: Judy Geddes <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi Listers, >> >> While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >> David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >> Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >> was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 >> 1902, >> vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how >> can I >> find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >> page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. >> Igy came to Canada sometime between 1912-1918, settled in Winnipeg and >> married (?) Samuel Budd. I haven't been able to find her immigration >> records yet, or a marriage in Winnipeg. Any ideas/suggestions will be >> appreciated!! >> >> Cheers, Judy in Alberta >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:35:13 +0100 >> From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >>>Hi Listers, >>> >>>While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >>>David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >>>Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >>>was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 >>>1902, >>>vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how >>>can I >>>find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >>>page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. >> >> The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the >> one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if >> they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in >> Dublin >> >> Regards >> Anthony >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:13:59 +0100 >> From: "Anne Griffin" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Moore/Blake Marriage Reference >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> Hi there, >> >> I am in the UK and was wondering if some kind soul out there whilst doing >> their own research can look up a marriage for me??? >> >> The families appear to be Dublin born & bred. The names of the persons >> married are as follows - Hilda MOORE & Walter James BLAKE. >> >> We don't know a year of marriage but are pretty certain they are married >> by 1921 as they definitely had had 6 children by 1929. >> >> Also, if there is anyone else out there researching these names it would >> be great to hear from you. >> >> Thank you very much for your kindness. >> >> Anne. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:53:30 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) >> From: "Robin Beard" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriages >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hello All >> >> Can anyone advise if any marriage and death records are available online, >> apart from the ones on familysearch.org >> >> I am looking specifically for a marriage between a John Gibbons & Honora >> Gorman and their deaths in Dublin approx 1867 (marriage) and 1900 >> (death). >> They were my GG grandparents. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Many Thanks >> Robin >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 >> *********************************************** > > >

At 10:21 04/08/2007, you wrote: >Anthony, > > Hope your recent trip to this side of the water was fruitful > > When myself and my brother Joey were at the GRO in september > 2005. We had to provide two names to locate and get a copy of my > grandparents marriage in 1897. Would what you are saying apply when > I apply for certificates for my Great grand parents? > Hi Sean, Thanks for your mail, just got back middle of last week. Got caught up in the floods at Oxford but survived with some very minor damage to the underside of the car - we were trying to get back to Oxford which was reasonably dry and got caught at the roundabout that leads to Tewksbury!! Who ever made you give two names at the GRO was acting the goat. If this sort of activity is widespread and continues I will complain to the director and get my fellow researchers to do the same. It is totally unnecessary indeed stupid, because a large number of folk would not know the two names. In the case of postal enquiries it may be that they will claim that there may be multible entries, but this even would be highly unlikely. I will reply to your original query early next week Regards

At 01:16 05/08/2007, you wrote: >Hi Listers > >On my grandmother's marriage certificate she was living at 19 Leinster Sq. >in 1907, Leinster Square is off Rathmines Road, so would be in the Rathmines D.E.D. (District Electoral Division) in the 1919 streets directory it is listed as 'let in flats' Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/

Anthony & Debby Thanks to both of you for the information on Leinster Sq in Rathmines!! I'll try again with the census now that I have the correct info. You've both been so helpful to my research - it's much appreciated. Cheers, Judy in Alberta

Lots of traffic on this marriage question. Here are I hope some helpful hints. If you have access to the LDS marriage index and only know one of the names of the couple, and have a year, then you can search by surname and find the party you are looking for. The problem arises when both names are common like a John Murphy, for which there could be multiple entries. But if you know the registration district or recognize the geographic location and can place it in the right county, you can narrow the odds. Ideally, you can find the right one, then you have the YEAR, QUARTER VOLUME & PAGE. That should be sufficient for them to look it up and give you a copy of the marriage certificate. If you are a glutton for punishment, you can find the other name yourself in the index. What you have to do is to look through the entire quarter and find the identical entry for Volume and Page. An onerous task indeed that should not be necessary. The identity of the spouse is indeed useful in finding the right one, especially when there are many entries for the other party. Al Valentine Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery > At 10:21 04/08/2007, you wrote: > >Anthony, > > > > Hope your recent trip to this side of the water was fruitful > > > > When myself and my brother Joey were at the GRO in september > > 2005. We had to provide two names to locate and get a copy of my > > grandparents marriage in 1897. Would what you are saying apply when > > I apply for certificates for my Great grand parents? > > > > Hi Sean, > > Thanks for your mail, just got back middle of last week. Got caught > up in the floods at Oxford but survived with some very minor damage > to the underside of the car - we were trying to get back to Oxford > which was reasonably dry and got caught at the roundabout that leads > to Tewksbury!! > > Who ever made you give two names at the GRO was acting the goat. If > this sort of activity is widespread and continues I will complain to > the director and get my fellow researchers to do the same. It is > totally unnecessary indeed stupid, because a large number of folk > would not know the two names. In the case of postal enquiries it may > be that they will claim that there may be multible entries, but this > even would be highly unlikely. I will reply to your original query > early next week > > Regards > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 22:05 04/08/2007, you wrote: >Ditto to the online marriage records > >Are they available for County Dublin? City of Dublin? Ditto reply - see my earlier post Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/

My experience at Dublin's GRO is that you only have to provide the name of one of the participants to a marriage. From their registers, they can then provide you with the name of the other party and all the other relevant details. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

Hi Listers On my grandmother's marriage certificate she was living at 19 Leinster Sq. in 1907, her sister Jessie was married in 1906 and her certificate says she was living at the same address. In 1917 my uncle Edwin was having his cheques sent to his wife at that same address. I tried ordering film to see the details in the 1911 census but I'm not having good success. It might be because I'm not searching the correct townland or parish. I have reference to the parish of Rathfarnham on both marriage certificates but the address the cheques were sent to said Rathmines. Can anyone tell me the correct way to search this address in Co Dublin? Many thanks! Cheers, Judy in Alberta

Ditto to the online marriage records Are they available for County Dublin? City of Dublin? murf ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:12 AM Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Civil Register page (Michael McAllister) > 2. Marriage Mystery (Judy Geddes) > 3. Re: Marriage Mystery (Anthony J. Roche) > 4. Moore/Blake Marriage Reference (Anne Griffin) > 5. Marriages (Robin Beard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:48:47 +0100 > From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Civil Register page > To: "Dublin City List" <[email protected]>, "Belfast > List" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hi List, I wonder if someone, somewhere would check a page of the Civil > Registers for me please. > The copy I viewed through an LDS FHC at nearby Sutton Coldfield was a > little torn and wonder if all the original was torn as well ! > > The page is from the Births section of the third quarter from 1900, > bottom left hand side of the page number 40, > name McALISTER/McALLISTER. > > If someone has an undamaged page would/could they copy or transcibe the > section of the page for me please? > It would hep me possibly track down some family members (hopefully). > In anticipation, many thanks. > Michael McAllister > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:33:53 -0600 > From: Judy Geddes <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <0000[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Listers, > > While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to > David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene > Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she > was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 > 1902, > vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can > I > find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same > page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. > Igy came to Canada sometime between 1912-1918, settled in Winnipeg and > married (?) Samuel Budd. I haven't been able to find her immigration > records yet, or a marriage in Winnipeg. Any ideas/suggestions will be > appreciated!! > > Cheers, Judy in Alberta > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:35:13 +0100 > From: "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >>Hi Listers, >> >>While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >>David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >>Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >>was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 >>1902, >>vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can >>I >>find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >>page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. > > The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the > one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if > they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in > Dublin > > Regards > Anthony > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:13:59 +0100 > From: "Anne Griffin" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Moore/Blake Marriage Reference > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hi there, > > I am in the UK and was wondering if some kind soul out there whilst doing > their own research can look up a marriage for me??? > > The families appear to be Dublin born & bred. The names of the persons > married are as follows - Hilda MOORE & Walter James BLAKE. > > We don't know a year of marriage but are pretty certain they are married > by 1921 as they definitely had had 6 children by 1929. > > Also, if there is anyone else out there researching these names it would > be great to hear from you. > > Thank you very much for your kindness. > > Anne. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:53:30 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) > From: "Robin Beard" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriages > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello All > > Can anyone advise if any marriage and death records are available online, > apart from the ones on familysearch.org > > I am looking specifically for a marriage between a John Gibbons & Honora > Gorman and their deaths in Dublin approx 1867 (marriage) and 1900 (death). > They were my GG grandparents. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Many Thanks > Robin > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 > ***********************************************

Anthony Thank you for the advice - this is just the best news -I'll give it a lash! Cheers, Judy in Alberta -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Roche Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] Marriage Mystery At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 1902, >vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can I >find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in Dublin Regards Anthony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 22:53 03/08/2007, you wrote: >Hello All > >Can anyone advise if any marriage and death records are available online, >apart from the ones on familysearch.org > >I am looking specifically for a marriage between a John Gibbons & Honora >Gorman and their deaths in Dublin approx 1867 (marriage) and 1900 (death). >They were my GG grandparents. There are no BMDs for Ireland on line at present, there is the prospect of these in the not to distant future but for now all you can do is order requerst a search or order a cert from the GRO website which is as follows http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm Regards Anthony J. Roche Visit my home page at http://homepages.iol.ie/~ajroche/ Good Dublin Links at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/

Anthony, Hope your recent trip to this side of the water was fruitful When myself and my brother Joey were at the GRO in september 2005. We had to provide two names to locate and get a copy of my grandparents marriage in 1897. Would what you are saying apply when I apply for certificates for my Great grand parents? Sean Burdock Hastings, east sussex england "Anthony J. Roche" <[email protected]> wrote: At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 1902, >vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can I >find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in Dublin Regards Anthony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sean Burdock

Hello All Can anyone advise if any marriage and death records are available online, apart from the ones on familysearch.org I am looking specifically for a marriage between a John Gibbons & Honora Gorman and their deaths in Dublin approx 1867 (marriage) and 1900 (death). They were my GG grandparents. Any help would be appreciated. Many Thanks Robin

Hi there, I am in the UK and was wondering if some kind soul out there whilst doing their own research can look up a marriage for me??? The families appear to be Dublin born & bred. The names of the persons married are as follows - Hilda MOORE & Walter James BLAKE. We don't know a year of marriage but are pretty certain they are married by 1921 as they definitely had had 6 children by 1929. Also, if there is anyone else out there researching these names it would be great to hear from you. Thank you very much for your kindness. Anne.

At 18:33 03/08/2007, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >While I was looking in the marriage index for Jessie Williams marriage to >David Percy Robinson, I found a marriage for my great aunt Igy (Irene >Geraldine Williams). This was a huge surprise because we didn't know she >was married in Ireland. I found the entry in the quarter ended Sep 30 1902, >vol 2 p. 651 Dublin South. The question is, who did she marry and how can I >find out? I know that there will be four if not eight others on the same >page, and the GRO says you must have both names to order the certificate. The GRO are wrong on this count - you don't need both names, just the one reference will do. Get back to them and just order the cert, if they give you any grief get back to me and I will follow it up here in Dublin Regards Anthony

Hi List, I wonder if someone, somewhere would check a page of the Civil Registers for me please. The copy I viewed through an LDS FHC at nearby Sutton Coldfield was a little torn and wonder if all the original was torn as well ! The page is from the Births section of the third quarter from 1900, bottom left hand side of the page number 40, name McALISTER/McALLISTER. If someone has an undamaged page would/could they copy or transcibe the section of the page for me please? It would hep me possibly track down some family members (hopefully). In anticipation, many thanks. Michael McAllister