Sorry that should say Registration of births only started in 1864 *in Ireland* I am afraid Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Gillian > > Sorry to be the bearer of further bad news but I think you are thinking of Civil registration > starting in 1837 in England & Wales > > Registration of births only started in 1864 I am afraid

Hi Gillian Sorry to be the bearer of further bad news but I think you are thinking of Civil registration starting in 1837 in England & Wales Registration of births only started in 1864 I am afraid Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Thank you for this information Nivard. > I think I will have to send for one of the children's birth certificate when > after 1837 do you have any way of locating a reference number for me or can > you advise me which is the best site to subscribe to in order to research > this information? > > The 'person with 'bond' in the name is not one of ours - that would be just > too easy, I guess. > Richard CARMICHAEL was a cousin and I have information on him, thanks for > your reply and help. > Gillian

Thank you for this information Nivard. I think I will have to send for one of the children's birth certificate when after 1837 do you have any way of locating a reference number for me or can you advise me which is the best site to subscribe to in order to research this information? The 'person with 'bond' in the name is not one of ours - that would be just too easy, I guess. Richard CARMICHAEL was a cousin and I have information on him, thanks for your reply and help. Gillian -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 13 May 2012 13:00 To: irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Hugh Richard CAMICHAEL 1790 - 1872 Hi Gillian A few bits and pieces which you probably have already but just in case not Dublin, Ireland, Probate Record and Marriage Licence Index, 1270-1858 about Richard Carmichael Name: Richard Carmichael Spouse: Jane Bourne Document Year: 1812 Record Type: Marriage Licence Dublin, Ireland, Probate Record and Marriage Licence Index, 1270-1858 about Hugh Carmichael Name: Hugh Carmichael Spouse: Sarah Rogers Document Year: 1773 Record Type: Marriage Licence UK Medical Registers 1858 Dec 10 CARMICHAEL Hugh 23 Lower Pembroke street Dublin Lic, R.Coll.Surg.Irel.1855. (same 1859 to 1871) Dublin Almanac and General Register of Ireland for the Year of Our Lord 1841 Midwifery Court of Examiners Hugh CARMICHAEL 18 Hume street Same directory CARMICHAEL Hugh, surgeon, 18 Hume street also CARMICHAEL Rich. surgeon, 24 Rutland sq. North Is the Hugh Richard Bond CARMICHAEL part of your line ? If so is the Bond perhaps a clue to the mothers maiden name worth persuing? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS there are two pages from the National Biography re Richard CARMICHAEL 1779 - 1849 if of interest let me know and I can send on > Hallo, > > I am new to this list and although researched for a good few years, now I > have a brick wall in Ireland and I have no experience of research through > Irish records and do not know where to start. > > I would appreciate some help to find the name of the French lady who Hugh > Richard CARMICHAEL married between 1830 and 1835 if the dates of his > children are anything to go by. > > He was a Surgeon and after qualifying, started his professional like in the > army, based in France where he married (?). He returned to Ireland and made > a name for himself in the field of child birth and female diseases. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, folks. I found the hospital a/d and already emailed them today. I will try the Rector of the church too. - Alison >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 06:52:36 +0100 >> From: "alison moyra - BT Total Broadband email account" >> <alison.moyra@btinternet.com> >> Subject: [DUBLIN-CITY] Stella DOWSE >> To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <AE48144FDE764580852677F97DD0279E@HP1> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hello there. >> I have a new mystery. I found, on 'New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957' >> in >> Ancestry, a record of my father's cousin Stella DOWSE, in 1947, going to >> Jerusalem from the US. On the 'Marine Carp' an American government ship >> at >> the time. >> Definitely her, as the address and next of kin (Florence Dowse, nee >> Andrews) is just visible on the original. >> >> She was born in 1908 and lived at 5, Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin, all >> her life, dying only in 2008 at nearly 100. >> We have some vague family stories of her hush WWII work, but then a lot >> of >> things were 'hush' at the time - but what was this trip about? I know >> very >> little about her life or work, she's down as a governess on this record, >> but this seems a bit unlikely to both me and my sister. >> >> - any ideas, anyone? - Alison >> >> Looking for LITTLE, ANDREWS, MEMERY, BIRMINGHAM/BERMINGHAM in Dublin >> - esp. John ANDREWS b about 1820, pawnbroker. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 16:17:18 +1000 >> From: "Cara" <cara_links@bigpond.com> >> Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Stella DOWSE >> To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <0CE024C8EF5D4371B75C8D618616D18D@ColmTOSH> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> http://notices.irishtimes.com/2410402 >> >> Will give you her death notice >> >> >> The death has occurred of Stella DOWSE of Leopardstown Park Hospital and >> Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin >> >> Stella donated her body for the purpose of medical science. A Memorial >> Service will be held in Holy Trinity Church, Killiney on Sunday next, >> April >> 13, 2008 at 12 noon. >> >> >> The heading on this suggests perhaps that Stella was with the Hospital is >> this so? >> >> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=78249788 >> >> Lovely lot of information on the family at this site. >> >> Cheers >> C >> >> >> Date published: Friday, April 11, 2008 >> Date of death: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4995 - Release Date: 05/12/12 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-DUBLIN-CITY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 83 >> ********************************************** >

Hi Jeanette This is long before civil registration so there will be no marriage certificate as such The marriage appears on http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1881e90570411 Unfortunately the register its been transcribed from is not yet scanned The transcript reads :- Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PETER Marriage of GEORGE COOKE of RATHGAR ROAD and MARIA JANE WOLSELEY of BELLVILLE ST AVENUE PARISH OF KATHFARNHAY on 5 September 1838 Back to search results New search Name Location Datee.g. 13/08/1710 More search options Husband Wife Name GEORGE COOKE MARIA JANE WOLSELEY Address RATHGAR ROAD BELLVILLE ST AVENUE PARISH OF KATHFARNHAY Occupation ESQUIRE SPINSTER Father COOKE WOLSELEY Mother N/R N/R Further details in the record Witness 1 JOHN WEBB WILLIAM Witness 2 JOHN WOLSELEY About the record Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier N/R N/R N/R DU-CI-MA-51075 The information above may be all there is recorded but you would of course be best to see the original I am sure others will tell you the best method of obtaining a copy Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >A query please. I would like to obtain a full marriage certificate for > George Randall COOKE and Maria Jane WOLSELEY, who were married in 1838 in > the Church of Ireland Parish of St Peters, Dublin. Could someone please > tell me what information would be listed on this certificate, eg dob, > parents names, etc. > > Many thanks. > > Jeannette Cooke > Timaru, New Zealand

Hi Gillian A few bits and pieces which you probably have already but just in case not Dublin, Ireland, Probate Record and Marriage Licence Index, 1270-1858 about Richard Carmichael Name: Richard Carmichael Spouse: Jane Bourne Document Year: 1812 Record Type: Marriage Licence Dublin, Ireland, Probate Record and Marriage Licence Index, 1270-1858 about Hugh Carmichael Name: Hugh Carmichael Spouse: Sarah Rogers Document Year: 1773 Record Type: Marriage Licence UK Medical Registers 1858 Dec 10 CARMICHAEL Hugh 23 Lower Pembroke street Dublin Lic, R.Coll.Surg.Irel.1855. (same 1859 to 1871) Dublin Almanac and General Register of Ireland for the Year of Our Lord 1841 Midwifery Court of Examiners Hugh CARMICHAEL 18 Hume street Same directory CARMICHAEL Hugh, surgeon, 18 Hume street also CARMICHAEL Rich. surgeon, 24 Rutland sq. North Is the Hugh Richard Bond CARMICHAEL part of your line ? If so is the Bond perhaps a clue to the mothers maiden name worth persuing? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS there are two pages from the National Biography re Richard CARMICHAEL 1779 - 1849 if of interest let me know and I can send on > Hallo, > > I am new to this list and although researched for a good few years, now I > have a brick wall in Ireland and I have no experience of research through > Irish records and do not know where to start. > > I would appreciate some help to find the name of the French lady who Hugh > Richard CARMICHAEL married between 1830 and 1835 if the dates of his > children are anything to go by. > > He was a Surgeon and after qualifying, started his professional like in the > army, based in France where he married (?). He returned to Ireland and made > a name for himself in the field of child birth and female diseases.

Alison Why don't you contact Leopardstown Park Hospital and ask if they have any records etc.? Explain your reason for being in touch. There is an email address on their Website at http://www.lph.ie/contact.php I would also suggest that you contact the Rector of Holy Trinity Church, Killiney, Co.Dublin as the Memorial Service was held in his parish church, and no doubt she was a parishioner. They also have a Website at http://www.holytrinitykilliney.org/ on which you will find a "contact" link. Joyce

Hallo, I am new to this list and although researched for a good few years, now I have a brick wall in Ireland and I have no experience of research through Irish records and do not know where to start. I would appreciate some help to find the name of the French lady who Hugh Richard CARMICHAEL married between 1830 and 1835 if the dates of his children are anything to go by. He was a Surgeon and after qualifying, started his professional like in the army, based in France where he married (?). He returned to Ireland and made a name for himself in the field of child birth and female diseases. He had 4 children, i) Hugh CARMICHAEL b.1835 Dublin ii) Helen Antoinette Marie CARMICHAEL b.1837 Dublin iii) Marguerite CARMICHAEL b.1840 Dublin iv) Elizabeth Hope CARMICHAEKL b. 1846 Dublin Thank you Gillie1302

Hello Cara Had actually seen this - and I gave them some info about her brothers - BUT I hadn't spotted the hospital bit....so she may have been working at the hospital? That's very possible. Especially with the body donation. That's new to me. However as you may have found, there's nothing else online about that.... So a) how to find out any more? and b) Why would she go to Jerusalem after the war? It doesn't seem a good time to be going there, a lot of upheaval just before the establishment of Israel, and she went on a US government ship...... Also I don't know when she came back. The hospital: "Founded in 1917 it was originally a "hospital sanatorium" for the care of "officers or men of His Majesty's Navy and Army"." "The hospital continued to operate for more than 50 years caring for ex-service personnel." Maybe this is a place to start...I have their email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: <irl-dublin-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:00 AM Subject: IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 83 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Stella DOWSE (alison moyra - BT Total Broadband email account) > 2. Re: Stella DOWSE (Cara) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 06:52:36 +0100 > From: "alison moyra - BT Total Broadband email account" > <alison.moyra@btinternet.com> > Subject: [DUBLIN-CITY] Stella DOWSE > To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <AE48144FDE764580852677F97DD0279E@HP1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello there. > I have a new mystery. I found, on 'New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957' in > Ancestry, a record of my father's cousin Stella DOWSE, in 1947, going to > Jerusalem from the US. On the 'Marine Carp' an American government ship at > the time. > Definitely her, as the address and next of kin (Florence Dowse, nee > Andrews) is just visible on the original. > > She was born in 1908 and lived at 5, Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin, all > her life, dying only in 2008 at nearly 100. > We have some vague family stories of her hush WWII work, but then a lot of > things were 'hush' at the time - but what was this trip about? I know very > little about her life or work, she's down as a governess on this record, > but this seems a bit unlikely to both me and my sister. > > - any ideas, anyone? - Alison > > Looking for LITTLE, ANDREWS, MEMERY, BIRMINGHAM/BERMINGHAM in Dublin > - esp. John ANDREWS b about 1820, pawnbroker. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 16:17:18 +1000 > From: "Cara" <cara_links@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [DUBLIN-CITY] Stella DOWSE > To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0CE024C8EF5D4371B75C8D618616D18D@ColmTOSH> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > http://notices.irishtimes.com/2410402 > > Will give you her death notice > > > The death has occurred of Stella DOWSE of Leopardstown Park Hospital and > Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin > > Stella donated her body for the purpose of medical science. A Memorial > Service will be held in Holy Trinity Church, Killiney on Sunday next, > April > 13, 2008 at 12 noon. > > > The heading on this suggests perhaps that Stella was with the Hospital is > this so? > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=78249788 > > Lovely lot of information on the family at this site. > > Cheers > C > > > Date published: Friday, April 11, 2008 > Date of death: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4995 - Release Date: 05/12/12 > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN-CITY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-DUBLIN-CITY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 83 > **********************************************

Hello there. I have a new mystery. I found, on 'New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957' in Ancestry, a record of my father's cousin Stella DOWSE, in 1947, going to Jerusalem from the US. On the 'Marine Carp' an American government ship at the time. Definitely her, as the address and next of kin (Florence Dowse, nee Andrews) is just visible on the original. She was born in 1908 and lived at 5, Ardbrugh Villas, Dalkey, Dublin, all her life, dying only in 2008 at nearly 100. We have some vague family stories of her hush WWII work, but then a lot of things were 'hush' at the time - but what was this trip about? I know very little about her life or work, she's down as a governess on this record, but this seems a bit unlikely to both me and my sister. - any ideas, anyone? - Alison Looking for LITTLE, ANDREWS, MEMERY, BIRMINGHAM/BERMINGHAM in Dublin - esp. John ANDREWS b about 1820, pawnbroker.

Ugh. Forgive the typos. My text is small and I send fast. :) Christina Finn Hunt wrote: > The 1911 census is free on Ancestry.uk over the weekend. > http://www.ancestry.co.uk/1911?AID=11058815&PID=5737308 > I checked it out. After a search, it asks for your name and email before > you can see the records. That seemed to be pretty much all. > > So, if you have wanted to try the English 1911 census, this is your chance. > Hope you have some luck. > > BTW, this news came from Claire Santry's blog which I recommend. > http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.com/2012/05/1911-census-for-england-wales-free-all.html > > Christina > >

The 1911 census is free on Ancestry.uk over the weekend. http://www.ancestry.co.uk/1911?AID=11058815&PID=5737308 I checked it out. After a search it asks for you name and email before you can see the records. That seemed to be pretty much all. So, if you have been wanted to try the English 1911 census, this is your chance. Hope you have some luck. BTW, this news came from Claire Santry's blog which I recommend. http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.com/2012/05/1911-census-for-england-wales-free-all.html Christina

This info was sent to me courtesy of Clare Roots Society. Colette > From: secretary@clareroots.org > To: secretary@clareroots.org > Subject: Chancery Letters > Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:11:11 +0100 > > Chancery Letters 1244 to 1509 online from today: > > http://chancery.tcd.ie/ > > > Clara Hoyne > Clare Roots Society Secretary > > > > > > >

Hi, We have just added Mount Jerome part 45. The photos and transcription file were all done by Yvonne Russell. She did a wonderful job, as always. To view the new set go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/markers.htm Pick Mount Jerome at the top of the page. Also, our site search engine has run, so you can use it too. Regards, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ ===============================

Jeannette I presume you are thinking of the River Tolka in Dublin. However, I have had a look on the Internet, and there appears to be a ruin of Castle Sheppard in Co.Tipperary. See - http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/property-show.jsp?id=4586 and also http://www.castlesheppard.com/ The second link has a photo of the ruin. Hope this helps. Joyce >> > Does anyone know if Castle Sheppard is on the River Tolca. The > castle/house > I understand is now a ruin. Any info on Castle Sheppard would be > appreciated. >

A query for the list please. Does anyone know if Castle Sheppard is on the River Tolca. The castle/house I understand is now a ruin. Any info on Castle Sheppard would be appreciated. Jeannette Cooke Timaru, New Zealand

Hi Alison, That's brilliant, can you let me know please where you searched? Thanks. I wasn't sure if it was an error on the census information Regards Marion Sydney Sent from Marion's IPad On 06/05/2012, at 5:35 PM, "alison moyra - BT Total Broadband email account"<alison.moyra@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hello, all: > I have just seen a TV programme which is relevant here - 'Victorian Pharmacy' with Ruth Goodman (pt 3). Afraid I cannot get it online....but part of this was about women apothecaries. > Ruth pointed out that when licencing and examinations were brought in by a new law in Britain in 1868, women were not specifically excluded from these professions. > > And they proceeded to take advantage of this. I did a search for both and found in 1901 in Ireland, 8 women apothecaries and 38 chemists! > How about that. - Alison. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, all: I have just seen a TV programme which is relevant here - 'Victorian Pharmacy' with Ruth Goodman (pt 3). Afraid I cannot get it online....but part of this was about women apothecaries. Ruth pointed out that when licencing and examinations were brought in by a new law in Britain in 1868, women were not specifically excluded from these professions. And they proceeded to take advantage of this. I did a search for both and found in 1901 in Ireland, 8 women apothecaries and 38 chemists! How about that. - Alison.

Times were changing even in Ireland in 1900's so why not, be a chemist? Yes I feel women could be whatever they wanted to be, as long as they were brave enough to tread through the male domain of things. Cara

Dear Lister, I have been trying for many years to find out about my McCarthy descendants from Dublin. Thanks to a brilliant effort from Penne in New Zealand I have found out that Patrick McCarthy, who had come to Australia in 1836, was found guilty of something in the Berrima Court (Goulburn) on the 2nd May 1842 and was sentenced to 14 years and deported. It has now raised several questions about Patrick McCarthy. Where was he deported to? Where did his wife go to? What was his crime? What were his parents names? Thank you very much, Joe Crane Queensland. ( ps even a friendly return email would be great. jc.)