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    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] re Thomas Edwin John HENRY of Kingstown
    2. Hi Lis See record: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/92e2b30581438 Shows Thomas Henry marriage to Shekleton. Hilda On 1 Lún 2012, at 18:20, "Lis Warwood" <lwarwood@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have just joined the list and am totally new to undertaking research about > people born in Ireland. I want to establish the birth, parentage and > ancestry, of Thomas Edwin John HENRY (circa 1842 - 1883) and whether an > apparent connection with the SHEKLETON surname, and in particular a Mrs > Margaret SHEKLETON, is due to a family relationship or some other cause. At > this point I don't know where to begin to find the answers to these > questions. In the hope it will help I list below what I do know. > > > > 1871: Thomas E J HENRY, 4 Eaton Rise Ealing, Middlesex, occupation > "Income from Land", b. Ireland. Wife Harriette, children Thomas 5, Margaret > S(hekleton) 3, Edwin 2, John 1, and Thomas Roland 9 months, all born in > Ireland. Parish records (found on Ancestry.co) all the children born > Kingstown, Dublin County, mother's maiden name ARMSTRONG. > > > > 1879: The Irish Law Times Reports - In re The Estate of Martin & Others, > Owners, - concerning the partition of certain lands held under a lease, > originally from a Robert WADDELL to William MARTIN whose interest eventually > became vested in Margaret SHEKLETON and James MARTIN as tenants in common, > "and afterwards in Thomas E J HENRY, as representing the said Margaret > SHEKLETON, and in William Richard MARTIN and Catherine MARTIN, as > representatives of the said James MARTIN." By indenture 7 August 1872 > Thomas E J HENRY had granted the lands mentioned in the petition (but not > identified) to Thomas H ARMSTRONG, William M'CRUM, and Robert Garmony > M'CRUM, and to their heirs assigns, upon trusts for the benefit of his wife > and children. > > > > 1854: Dromore County Down Return of Lands & Houses belonging to Established > Church in Ireland - shows a) "Part of Drumnahall Barony of Lower Iveagh > Lease 30 Aug 1844 Lessee Mrs Margaret SHEKLETON - Perpetuities" b) > "Drumnahall Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 27 Feb 1847 Lessee William Henry > MARTIN - Perpetuities" c) "Kilscolbane Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 24 June > 1848 Mrs HENRY'S Trustees" d) "Kilscolbane Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 22 > July 1852 W. H. & J MARTIN" (these last two entries being linked and there > being renewal fines associated) e) "Drummeath Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease > 11 March 1853 Lessee Thomas HENRY'S Executor's - Tithes under Lease" f) > "Magheradroll Tithes Baronies of Lower Iveagh & Kinclearty Lease 22 July > 1852 Lessee MARTIN & SHEKLETON - Tithes under Lease" and g) "Rectorial > Tithes of Dawins Garnaghy Barony of Upper Iveagh Lease 28 March 1854 Lessee > Robert MARTIN - Tithes under Lease." > > > >> From all that I am assuming that the lands in question in the court case > relate to land in County Down, Barony of Lower Iveagh - possibly a) > Drumnahall listed above or f) Magheradroll. I have no idea what the > land/lease system was at that time in Ireland so don't really understand > what the above really meant! > > > > 1881: Thomas E. J. HENRY is still at 4 Eaton Rise Ealing recorded born > Dublin, Ireland. He dies 23 September 1883 leaving a Will with a Personal > Estate of only Five Pounds (?). His wife Harriette is residing elsewhere in > Ealing with some the children (others are off in private schools) and > recorded born Peterborough Canada. Two children of Thomas and Harriette born > after 1871 in England are at home: Florence Stuart HENRY b. 1872 and Thomas > Alexander Stewart HENRY b. 1873. So this couple named 3 children Thomas and > all children survived! > > > > 1891 - 1918: Harriette, Widow of Thomas E J HENRY continues to reside at 4 > Eaton Rise Ealing, living on private means. She dies in 1918. The eldest > son, Thomas, has become an Architect, Edwin a Physician and Surgeon, John a > Major in the Army, Thomas Roland a Land Agent and the youngest son Thomas > Alexander Stewart HENRY is in the Clergy. Several leave large personal > estates when they die. Clearly income, possibly from lands still leased out > in Ireland subsidised this family's lives. > > > > After all that, can anyone assist me? > > > > Lis > > South Australia > > > > > > > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/01/2012 01:18:07
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] re Thomas Edwin John HENRY of Kingstown
    2. Lis Warwood
    3. Hi Hilda, Thanks. Yes, I had noticed that 1841 marriage of a Thomas Henry to a Wilhelmina Shekleton, but could not any connection to a Margaret Shekleton nor a birth/baptism for a son Thomas E J to this couple. Lis -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of hildanic@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 10:48 AM To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] re Thomas Edwin John HENRY of Kingstown Hi Lis See record: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/92e2b30581438 Shows Thomas Henry marriage to Shekleton. Hilda On 1 Lún 2012, at 18:20, "Lis Warwood" <lwarwood@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have just joined the list and am totally new to undertaking research > about people born in Ireland. I want to establish the birth, parentage > and ancestry, of Thomas Edwin John HENRY (circa 1842 - 1883) and > whether an apparent connection with the SHEKLETON surname, and in > particular a Mrs Margaret SHEKLETON, is due to a family relationship > or some other cause. At this point I don't know where to begin to find > the answers to these questions. In the hope it will help I list below what I do know. > > > > 1871: Thomas E J HENRY, 4 Eaton Rise Ealing, Middlesex, occupation > "Income from Land", b. Ireland. Wife Harriette, children Thomas 5, > Margaret > S(hekleton) 3, Edwin 2, John 1, and Thomas Roland 9 months, all born > in Ireland. Parish records (found on Ancestry.co) all the children > born Kingstown, Dublin County, mother's maiden name ARMSTRONG. > > > > 1879: The Irish Law Times Reports - In re The Estate of Martin & > Others, Owners, - concerning the partition of certain lands held under > a lease, originally from a Robert WADDELL to William MARTIN whose > interest eventually became vested in Margaret SHEKLETON and James > MARTIN as tenants in common, "and afterwards in Thomas E J HENRY, as > representing the said Margaret SHEKLETON, and in William Richard > MARTIN and Catherine MARTIN, as representatives of the said James > MARTIN." By indenture 7 August 1872 Thomas E J HENRY had granted the > lands mentioned in the petition (but not > identified) to Thomas H ARMSTRONG, William M'CRUM, and Robert Garmony > M'CRUM, and to their heirs assigns, upon trusts for the benefit of his > wife and children. > > > > 1854: Dromore County Down Return of Lands & Houses belonging to > Established Church in Ireland - shows a) "Part of Drumnahall Barony > of Lower Iveagh Lease 30 Aug 1844 Lessee Mrs Margaret SHEKLETON - > Perpetuities" b) "Drumnahall Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 27 Feb 1847 > Lessee William Henry MARTIN - Perpetuities" c) "Kilscolbane Barony of > Lower Iveagh Lease 24 June > 1848 Mrs HENRY'S Trustees" d) "Kilscolbane Barony of Lower Iveagh > Lease 22 July 1852 W. H. & J MARTIN" (these last two entries being > linked and there being renewal fines associated) e) "Drummeath Barony > of Lower Iveagh Lease > 11 March 1853 Lessee Thomas HENRY'S Executor's - Tithes under Lease" > f) "Magheradroll Tithes Baronies of Lower Iveagh & Kinclearty Lease 22 > July > 1852 Lessee MARTIN & SHEKLETON - Tithes under Lease" and g) "Rectorial > Tithes of Dawins Garnaghy Barony of Upper Iveagh Lease 28 March 1854 > Lessee Robert MARTIN - Tithes under Lease." > > > >> From all that I am assuming that the lands in question in the court >> case > relate to land in County Down, Barony of Lower Iveagh - possibly a) > Drumnahall listed above or f) Magheradroll. I have no idea what the > land/lease system was at that time in Ireland so don't really > understand what the above really meant! > > > > 1881: Thomas E. J. HENRY is still at 4 Eaton Rise Ealing recorded born > Dublin, Ireland. He dies 23 September 1883 leaving a Will with a > Personal Estate of only Five Pounds (?). His wife Harriette is > residing elsewhere in Ealing with some the children (others are off > in private schools) and recorded born Peterborough Canada. Two > children of Thomas and Harriette born after 1871 in England are at > home: Florence Stuart HENRY b. 1872 and Thomas Alexander Stewart HENRY > b. 1873. So this couple named 3 children Thomas and all children survived! > > > > 1891 - 1918: Harriette, Widow of Thomas E J HENRY continues to reside > at 4 Eaton Rise Ealing, living on private means. She dies in 1918. The > eldest son, Thomas, has become an Architect, Edwin a Physician and > Surgeon, John a Major in the Army, Thomas Roland a Land Agent and the > youngest son Thomas Alexander Stewart HENRY is in the Clergy. Several > leave large personal estates when they die. Clearly income, possibly > from lands still leased out in Ireland subsidised this family's lives. > > > > After all that, can anyone assist me? > > > > Lis > > South Australia > > > > > > > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/02/2012 05:21:29
    1. Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] re Thomas Edwin John HENRY of Kingstown
    2. colette o rorke
    3. This link takes you to the baptisms of 4 children of Thomas Henry & Harriett Henry between 1838 and 1841 in Dublin city http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search. Colette

    08/02/2012 06:21:29