Try putting the Latin words into google translater. Sorry I don't have an actual link but if you google 'Latin translations' or 'Latin to English' you may get something to go on there. Maggie On 13 Dec 2012, at 23:27, "Margaret Cambridge" <talktomarg@shaw.ca> wrote: Maggie, On the baptism record of Joseph Simon and Patrick James there is a comment in the last column for both the boys which is written in Latin and smudged so is almost unreadable but I can see........ Mater Neocon???? and Pater Proliate...Bapt ....sub condition. Unfortunately I don't read Latin and the rest is black & unreadable. This, however, probably is some sort of explanation. Marg From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Doyle" <johnmaggie11@yahoo.co.uk> Hi Margaret, strange allright how they baptised 3 children + left one out. Maybe that's all they could manage to carry? Maybe the Church was overbooked but most likely would be be that he was in hospital when the others were being christened. Maggie ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You see............a poke and a push with other's thoughts makes me search deeper. Of course 'Mater' and 'Pater' are mother and father. Can't find anything on Neocon????or Proliate. But,.......sub conditione can mean that one of the parents was not RC (mixed marriage) and converted as an adult and baptised again as an RC. In checking the parents again I find the father was a RC and the mother may have been baptised as an adult in September 1870 RC. Haven't confirmed that yet but it is a possiblity. Maybe she was able to pass herself off as a RC for the baptisms of their first 3 children but unable to confirm this she had to take instruction and was baptised again. Sub conditione is also used in the case of foundlings where the priest cannot be sure that a baptism hasn't already taken place. I find the old brain cells don't work as swiftly as they used to and a push in another direction wakes them up....-)) Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Doyle" <johnmaggie11@yahoo.co.uk> Try putting the Latin words into google translater. Sorry I don't have an actual link but if you google 'Latin translations' or 'Latin to English' you may get something to go on there. Maggie On 13 Dec 2012, at 23:27, "Margaret Cambridge" <talktomarg@shaw.ca> wrote: Maggie, On the baptism record of Joseph Simon and Patrick James there is a comment in the last column for both the boys which is written in Latin and smudged so is almost unreadable but I can see........ Mater Neocon???? and Pater Proliate...Bapt ....sub condition. Unfortunately I don't read Latin and the rest is black & unreadable. This, however, probably is some sort of explanation. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

I wonder what the position of the church is on baptisms done by nurses at hospital! Most of the R.C. nurses I know (personally and it isn't that many who do maternity) will do a baptism of sickly babies Eliz On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Margaret Cambridge <talktomarg@shaw.ca> wrote: > Sub conditione is also used in the case of foundlings where the priest > cannot be sure that > a baptism hasn't already taken place.