Hi Hal, You are looking for the parish of CLONTARF on the north side of Dublin.The two Churches are on the South side of Dublin. The family may have been from the Southside of Dublin and were living on the Northside. It would not be uncommon for familys to return to their roots. I would suggest the male of the family lived on the Southside of Dublin. Regards Kaye > > I have a person listed as being born in Clonturk, Dublin, Ireland in 1731. > Clonturk is/was a community north of the River Liffey, in Vicinity of where > St. Micahn's and St. Mary's Churches are located. Looks to be about 3 blocks > or so north of the river in vicinity of Church Street. I feel sure the area > was larger than this back then. I have two questions and I am looking for > opinions or answers as I NEED HELP. > 1) Why would he be listed as born in Clonturk when there were churches in > the area. This is what the LDS IGI file says and it says no more. > 2. Does anyone have a microfilm number for ST. Mary's births in the 1730 > time frame. > > I know that St. Mary's and St. Michan's were in existence back then as I > found them on a 1610 map of Dublin. I already have the film number for > St.Michan's but not for ST. Mary's. I have tried to send the LDS folks a > message asking them for help. I am wondering why he was listed as being born > this way or in this place while most show a church with birth date or chr. > date. > Thanks in advance for your help, opinions and/or suggestions. > Hal > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

X-DECLUDE-SPAM X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT14: Weight of 27 reaches or exceeds the limit of 14. X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT16: Weight of 27 reaches or exceeds the limit of 16. X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT20: Weight of 27 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20. X-Declude-Sender: halsheritage@tnaccess.com [12.180.246.153] X-Declude-Spoolname: Db762969f00fcc801.smd X-Declude-Scan: Score [27] at 14:52:14 on 04 Sep 2007 X-Declude-Fail: DSBL-CONFIRMED [20], CMDSPACE [12], WEIGHT2 [2], WEIGHT7 [7], WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT12 [12], WEIGHT14 [14], WEIGHT16 [16], WEIGHT20 [20] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination Thanks for your response. Is the South side all below the River Liffey and the north side above the River? I looked at an 1810 map of Dublin and the two churches were on the map and they were both north of the River Liffey at that time. When I googled the two churches and got an address it looks to me like the two churches are north of the river. How are you divining the city into North and South? Are you using the River Liffey or something else? I have been back searching for more information and I found on the LDS site that census of 1901 was at the Civil Parish of Clonturk. Note I am using a different spelling than you are using as I suppose these are two different places or areas. Could the spelling have been changed after 1901? Speaking of the South Side, I did find a lot of Connor/O'Connor/Conner living SE of Dublin City Center in various communities near the coast. The majority of them living at Monkstown. I have no idea if my man at Clonturk is related to those in the SE of Dublin. ----- Original Message ----- From: <catherine10@eircom.net> To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-DUBLIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] CLONTURK > > > Hi Hal, > > You are looking for the parish of CLONTARF on the north side of Dublin.The > two Churches are on the South side of Dublin. > > The family may have been from the Southside of Dublin and were living on > the Northside. It would not be uncommon for familys to return to their > roots. > > I would suggest the male of the family lived on the Southside of Dublin. > > Regards Kaye > >> >> I have a person listed as being born in Clonturk, Dublin, Ireland in >> 1731. >> Clonturk is/was a community north of the River Liffey, in Vicinity of >> where >> St. Micahn's and St. Mary's Churches are located. Looks to be about 3 >> blocks >> or so north of the river in vicinity of Church Street. I feel sure the >> area >> was larger than this back then. I have two questions and I am looking for >> opinions or answers as I NEED HELP. >> 1) Why would he be listed as born in Clonturk when there were churches in >> the area. This is what the LDS IGI file says and it says no more. >> 2. Does anyone have a microfilm number for ST. Mary's births in the 1730 >> time frame. >> >> I know that St. Mary's and St. Michan's were in existence back then as I >> found them on a 1610 map of Dublin. I already have the film number for >> St.Michan's but not for ST. Mary's. I have tried to send the LDS folks a >> message asking them for help. I am wondering why he was listed as being >> born >> this way or in this place while most show a church with birth date or >> chr. >> date. >> Thanks in advance for your help, opinions and/or suggestions. >> Hal >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property > Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Here are the two addresses I have for the churches: St. Micahan's Location: Church St., Dublin 7 Phone: 01/872-4154 Bus: 134 from Abbey St. Hours: Nov-Feb Mon-Fri 12:30-2:30pm, Sat 10am-1pm; Mar-Oct Mon-Fri 10am-12:45pm and 2-4:45pm, Sat 10am-1pm St. Mary's Cathedral and Marlborough Sts., Dublin 1 Phone: 01/874-5441 DART: Connolly Bus: 28, 29A, 30, 31A, 31B, 32A, 32B, or 44A Hours: Mon-Fri 8am-6pm; Sat-Sun 8am-7pm I am not familiar enough with Dublin to be sue of what I am looking at. I am trying to find them with www.mapquest.com and it is proving to be a little more difficult than I had thought. This is the address I found for the two churches yesterday. ----- Original Message ----- From: <catherine10@eircom.net> To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-DUBLIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] CLONTURK > > > Hi Hal, > > You are looking for the parish of CLONTARF on the north side of Dublin.The > two Churches are on the South side of Dublin. > > The family may have been from the Southside of Dublin and were living on > the Northside. It would not be uncommon for familys to return to their > roots. > > I would suggest the male of the family lived on the Southside of Dublin. > > Regards Kaye > >> >> I have a person listed as being born in Clonturk, Dublin, Ireland in >> 1731. >> Clonturk is/was a community north of the River Liffey, in Vicinity of >> where >> St. Micahn's and St. Mary's Churches are located. Looks to be about 3 >> blocks >> or so north of the river in vicinity of Church Street. I feel sure the >> area >> was larger than this back then. I have two questions and I am looking for >> opinions or answers as I NEED HELP. >> 1) Why would he be listed as born in Clonturk when there were churches in >> the area. This is what the LDS IGI file says and it says no more. >> 2. Does anyone have a microfilm number for ST. Mary's births in the 1730 >> time frame. >> >> I know that St. Mary's and St. Michan's were in existence back then as I >> found them on a 1610 map of Dublin. I already have the film number for >> St.Michan's but not for ST. Mary's. I have tried to send the LDS folks a >> message asking them for help. I am wondering why he was listed as being >> born >> this way or in this place while most show a church with birth date or >> chr. >> date. >> Thanks in advance for your help, opinions and/or suggestions. >> Hal >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property > Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

X-DECLUDE-SPAM X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT14: Weight of 27 reaches or exceeds the limit of 14. X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT16: Weight of 27 reaches or exceeds the limit of 16. X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT20: Weight of 27 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20. X-Declude-Sender: halsheritage@tnaccess.com [12.180.246.153] X-Declude-Spoolname: Dbd694048019ae979.smd X-Declude-Scan: Score [27] at 15:18:03 on 04 Sep 2007 X-Declude-Fail: DSBL-CONFIRMED [20], CMDSPACE [12], WEIGHT2 [2], WEIGHT7 [7], WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT12 [12], WEIGHT14 [14], WEIGHT16 [16], WEIGHT20 [20] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination Here is the vicinity of the two churches as best as I can do on the map. LINK: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=IE&addtohistory=&city=Dublin Is this considered to be the south side of Dublin. YOu can clearly see the river Liffey on the bottom on the page. St.Michan's is before you get to Mary's Lane along Church Street and St. Mary's is nearby. ----- Original Message ----- From: <catherine10@eircom.net> To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-DUBLIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] CLONTURK > > > Hi Hal, > > You are looking for the parish of CLONTARF on the north side of Dublin.The > two Churches are on the South side of Dublin. > > The family may have been from the Southside of Dublin and were living on > the Northside. It would not be uncommon for familys to return to their > roots. > > I would suggest the male of the family lived on the Southside of Dublin. > > Regards Kaye > >> >> I have a person listed as being born in Clonturk, Dublin, Ireland in >> 1731. >> Clonturk is/was a community north of the River Liffey, in Vicinity of >> where >> St. Micahn's and St. Mary's Churches are located. Looks to be about 3 >> blocks >> or so north of the river in vicinity of Church Street. I feel sure the >> area >> was larger than this back then. I have two questions and I am looking for >> opinions or answers as I NEED HELP. >> 1) Why would he be listed as born in Clonturk when there were churches in >> the area. This is what the LDS IGI file says and it says no more. >> 2. Does anyone have a microfilm number for ST. Mary's births in the 1730 >> time frame. >> >> I know that St. Mary's and St. Michan's were in existence back then as I >> found them on a 1610 map of Dublin. I already have the film number for >> St.Michan's but not for ST. Mary's. I have tried to send the LDS folks a >> message asking them for help. I am wondering why he was listed as being >> born >> this way or in this place while most show a church with birth date or >> chr. >> date. >> Thanks in advance for your help, opinions and/or suggestions. >> Hal >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property > Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >