I had wonderd about the names. Early churches if they were built withing the City wall were called Within and those built outside of the city wall were called Without. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Nakayama" <gewilks@yahoo.com> To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] ST NICHOLAS WITHOUT > Thank you Hal. What a shame. This is where my > grgr-grandparents were married. I don't know if St > Nicholas Without was their parish church or not. > There is much more for me to learn. Does anyone know > why it is "Without"? > > Gail > --- Hal <halsheritage@tnaccess.com> wrote: > >> Look at this link to see what is happeining to St. >> Nicholas Without and >> other cemeteries in Dublin: >> http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/dublin/ >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> >> To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com>; >> <IRL-TOMBSTONE-INSCRIPTIONS-L@rootsweb.com>; >> <IRELAND-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:45 AM >> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] ST NICHOLAS WITHOUT >> >> >> >A question about this was asked on the Dublin list >> so here is my answer >> >about where the registers are housed to >> > all lists Dublin Tombstone and Cemetery, my >> humblest apologies to those >> > caught with a cross posting. >> > >> > >> > Known as the Cabbage Garden - 1666-1878 >> > >> > Records for the church of Ireland Parish of St >> Nicholas Without from >> > 1694-1875 are in the custody of >> > RCB ( Representative Church Body Library) Braemore >> park Churchtown Dublin >> > 14 >> > (this body of people do not undertake research you >> must be there in body >> > to do that yourself) >> > >> > The graveyard was surveyed for the Preservation of >> the Memorials on the >> > Dead in Irealnd 1v:p240-246,401-404 >> > >> > A plot map dated 1923 is available for reference >> in Dublin Corporation >> > Dublin and Irish Collection pearse Street Library >> > >> > >> > This graveyard served the parish of Saint Nicholas >> Without ( outside the >> > city walls) >> > The Cabbage Garden is sometimes referred to as the >> Capuchin Garden and it >> > si suggested that *Cabbage* is a corruption of >> *Capuchin* >> > However theri are no records extant which indicate >> that the Capuchins were >> > connected to this plot there is an interesting >> > article in *Dublin Historical Record, X1V: page >> 80-84 >> > >> > Now this sort of data is available via the Irish >> Tombstone and Cemetery >> > List. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to >> > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Without is outside the walls of Dublin look at the old maps for Dublin and see the walls and Within was inside the walls churches had the same name Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal" <halsheritage@tnaccess.com> To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] ST NICHOLAS WITHOUT >I had wonderd about the names. Early churches if they were built withing > the City wall were called Within and those built outside of the city wall > were called Without. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Nakayama" <gewilks@yahoo.com> > To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] ST NICHOLAS WITHOUT > > >> Thank you Hal. What a shame. This is where my >> grgr-grandparents were married. I don't know if St >> Nicholas Without was their parish church or not. >> There is much more for me to learn. Does anyone know >> why it is "Without"? >> >> Gail >> --- Hal <halsheritage@tnaccess.com> wrote: >> >>> Look at this link to see what is happeining to St. >>> Nicholas Without and >>> other cemeteries in Dublin: >>> http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/dublin/ >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> >>> To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com>; >>> <IRL-TOMBSTONE-INSCRIPTIONS-L@rootsweb.com>; >>> <IRELAND-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:45 AM >>> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] ST NICHOLAS WITHOUT >>> >>> >>> >A question about this was asked on the Dublin list >>> so here is my answer >>> >about where the registers are housed to >>> > all lists Dublin Tombstone and Cemetery, my >>> humblest apologies to those >>> > caught with a cross posting. >>> > >>> > >>> > Known as the Cabbage Garden - 1666-1878 >>> > >>> > Records for the church of Ireland Parish of St >>> Nicholas Without from >>> > 1694-1875 are in the custody of >>> > RCB ( Representative Church Body Library) Braemore >>> park Churchtown Dublin >>> > 14 >>> > (this body of people do not undertake research you >>> must be there in body >>> > to do that yourself) >>> > >>> > The graveyard was surveyed for the Preservation of >>> the Memorials on the >>> > Dead in Irealnd 1v:p240-246,401-404 >>> > >>> > A plot map dated 1923 is available for reference >>> in Dublin Corporation >>> > Dublin and Irish Collection pearse Street Library >>> > >>> > >>> > This graveyard served the parish of Saint Nicholas >>> Without ( outside the >>> > city walls) >>> > The Cabbage Garden is sometimes referred to as the >>> Capuchin Garden and it >>> > si suggested that *Cabbage* is a corruption of >>> *Capuchin* >>> > However theri are no records extant which indicate >>> that the Capuchins were >>> > connected to this plot there is an interesting >>> > article in *Dublin Historical Record, X1V: page >>> 80-84 >>> > >>> > Now this sort of data is available via the Irish >>> Tombstone and Cemetery >>> > List. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >>> to >>> > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >>> to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >