wasn't Queenstown the English name for Cork? Anne (new enquirer) On 11 Nov 2010, at 07:37, [email protected] wrote: > > > ******************************** > 1- CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE > 2- REMOVE THE BULK OF THE MAIL-NO-ONE WANTS DOWNLOAD ENDLESS DIGEST > MAILS OF NO INTEREST TO THEM. > > > -------------------------------------- > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Wills+probate (Margaret Doyle) > 2. Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879, Drumcondra Church. Also > looking for QUEENSTOWN (Andrew & Julie) > 3. Re: Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879, Drumcondra Church. Also > looking for QUEENSTOWN (Nivard Ovington) > 4. Re: Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879, Drumcondra Church. Also > looking for QUEENSTOWN (Joyce) > 5. Re: Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879, Drumcondra Church. Also > looking for QUEENSTOWN (Joyce) > 6. Re: IRL-DUBLIN] The National Library of Ireland --Catholic > register collection (Cara_Links) > 7. Cobh/Queenstown (Margaret Doyle) > 8. Fw: DEATH CERTIFICATES -HEADSTONES ETC. (Cara_Links) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:22:42 +0000 (GMT) > From: Margaret Doyle <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Wills+probate > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Julie, if you go to nationalarchives.ie and put wills into the > search box, you will get all the info needed on wills+probate. > Maggie > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:22:32 +1300 > From: "Andrew & Julie" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879, Drumcondra > Church. Also looking for QUEENSTOWN > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am so grateful to Brian Freeman of Drumcondra Church. > > Brian found a tombstone in the Drumcondra Church and then this > information in the burial register. > Burial Date > 29/12/1879 - Anna English, Philipsburgh Avenue. Aged 80. > (Officiant): Revd H. Carleton. > 29/05/1884 - Mary H. English, 18 Philipsburgh Avenue. Aged > 64. " > 23/04/1885 - Emily English, Sandymount. Aged 61. > > Could Emily ENGLISH be a daughter-in-law, rather than a daughter, > because I found a wedding anouncement for a Nicholas ENGLISH to > Emily dau. of Joseph FITZGERALD Beach Buildings, Queenstown in the > Freeman's Journal? > > Does anybody know where Queenstown was? " > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:20:41 -0000 > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879, Drumcondra > Church. Also looking for QUEENSTOWN > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Perhaps > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobh > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> I am so grateful to Brian Freeman of Drumcondra Church. >> >> Brian found a tombstone in the Drumcondra Church and then this >> information >> in the burial register. >> Burial Date >> 29/12/1879 - Anna English, Philipsburgh Avenue. Aged 80. >> (Officiant): Revd >> H. Carleton. >> 29/05/1884 - Mary H. English, 18 Philipsburgh Avenue. Aged 64. >> " >> 23/04/1885 - Emily English, Sandymount. Aged 61. >> >> Could Emily ENGLISH be a daughter-in-law, rather than a daughter, >> because >> I found a wedding anouncement for a Nicholas ENGLISH to Emily dau. of >> Joseph FITZGERALD Beach Buildings, Queenstown in the Freeman's >> Journal? >> >> Does anybody know where Queenstown was? " > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:07:54 -0000 > From: "Joyce" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879, Drumcondra > Church. Also looking for QUEENSTOWN > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew & Julie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:22 AM > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879,Drumcondra > Church. Also > looking for QUEENSTOWN > > >> I am so grateful to Brian Freeman of Drumcondra Church. >> >> Brian found a tombstone in the Drumcondra Church and then this >> information >> in the burial register. >> Burial Date >> 29/12/1879 - Anna English, Philipsburgh Avenue. Aged 80. >> (Officiant): Revd >> H. Carleton. >> 29/05/1884 - Mary H. English, 18 Philipsburgh Avenue. Aged 64. >> " >> 23/04/1885 - Emily English, Sandymount. Aged 61. >> >> Could Emily ENGLISH be a daughter-in-law, rather than a daughter, >> because >> I found a wedding anouncement for a Nicholas ENGLISH to Emily dau. of >> Joseph FITZGERALD Beach Buildings, Queenstown in the Freeman's >> Journal? >> >> Does anybody know where Queenstown was? " >> >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this >> mail?, and >> do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change >> the >> SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:13:02 -0000 > From: "Joyce" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Anna Eliza ENGLISH buried 1879, Drumcondra > Church. Also looking for QUEENSTOWN > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I would suggest that you get a copy of the death registration for > Emily > English. You will then know if she was married/widow or single. It > should > also give you the address where she died. Also the naming of the > person > "present at death" can be a helpful clue. > > Regarding Queenstown (now known as Cobh in Co.Cork) see - > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobh > > Cheers > Joyce > >> >> Brian found a tombstone in the Drumcondra Church and then this >> information >> in the burial register. >> Burial Date >> 29/12/1879 - Anna English, Philipsburgh Avenue. Aged 80. >> (Officiant): Revd >> H. Carleton. >> 29/05/1884 - Mary H. English, 18 Philipsburgh Avenue. Aged 64. >> " >> 23/04/1885 - Emily English, Sandymount. Aged 61. >> >> Does anybody know where Queenstown was? " >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:03:40 +1100 > From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] IRL-DUBLIN] The National Library of Ireland > --Catholic register collection > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Before everyone gets over excited I am yet again going to point out > the fact > that - > The Dublin Library do not have ALL the entire Roman Catholic parish > registers on Microfilm > Yes they have 520 films but they are not and never will be the > complete set > of Parish registers for Dublin - and I simply > find it hard when people release these media things and suggest that > ALL > parish registers exists. > > SOrry for my two pence worth but I am tired of reading this fact > that is not > true. > > Cheers > Cara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:06 AM > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] IRL-DUBLIN] The National Library of Ireland -- > Catholic > register collection > > >>> From another List: >> >> Friday, 29 October 2010 >> Next major online offering may be entire Catholic register collection >> >> The National Library of Ireland (NLI) is planning to scan all 520 >> microfilms that make up its collection of Roman Catholic parish >> registers >> and put the >> scans online. >> >> While they won't be transcribed (so genealogists will still be going >> cross-eyed and pulling their hair out with frustration at the many >> illegible pages >> of records) nor indexed, this step would be hugely beneficial. At >> present, >> family historians have to visit the NLI in person, and only one >> microfilm >> for each parish is made available at any one time. >> >> So, while not perfect, having this resource online would be an >> outstanding >> advance. The collection represents, for the majority of >> researchers, the >> main source of birth, marriage and death records for pre-1864 (when >> civil >> registration started). >> >> The project is still at the tender stage, so it's some way off, but >> scanning and uploading 520 films to the web isn't an enormous >> undertaking >> and >> should be achievable within a year from now. >> >> Source: John Grenham/Irish Times" >> >> _http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.com/2010/10/next-major-online-offering >> -may-be.html_ >> (http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.com/2010/10/next-major-online-offering-may-be.html >> ) >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this >> mail?, and >> do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change >> the >> SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. > It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:52:31 +0000 (GMT) > From: Margaret Doyle <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Cobh/Queenstown > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Cobh is about a half hours train journey from Cork City, a deep > water channel+the last port of call for the Titanic. > It now boasts The Titanic Museum. > Maggie > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:36:57 +1100 > From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Fw: DEATH CERTIFICATES -HEADSTONES ETC. > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:06 PM > Subject: DEATH CERTIFICATES -HEADSTONES ETC. > > >> I am sorry about being absent but Family does come first ( the living >> anyway) and this is one of those cases. >> >> Persons required to register deaths were:- >> 1- Some person present at death ( not necessarily a family member) >> 2-Some person in attendance during the last illness of the deceased >> 3-the Occuppier of the house or tenement where the death took place >> 4-or someone else residing in the house or tenement where death >> took place >> 5-any person presentat, or having knowledge of the circumstances of >> the >> death >> >> The information they were required to supply was:- >> 1- the date and place of death >> 2-the name and surname of deceased >> 3-The sex of the deceased >> 4-the condition of the deceased as to marriage >> 5-the age of the deceased at last birthday ( hence those that did >> not know >> the person's birthdate guessed at age) >> 6-the rank, profession, or occupation of the deceased >> 7-the certified cause of death, and the duration of the final >> illness. >> >> Informant and the registrar were both required to sign each entry, >> which >> was also to include the date of registration, the residence of the >> informant and his or her 'qualification' ( for example "present at >> death") >> Notice to the registrar of the death was to be given in 7 days, and >> full >> details in 14 days. >> >> Now whilst the registrar may have received information of the death >> he did >> not always receive the full details within 14 days. >> >> And it is common that even when civil registration arrived, a certain >> proportion of all three categories Birth, deaths and Marriages went >> unregistered. >> It would be impossible to give an accurate number, as registration >> depended very much on local conditions and on individuals >> responsible for >> such. >> >> It was not until such a time that a certificate was necessary for >> official >> purposes, that sometimes the event became registered. >> >> After having transcribed many deaths, from parish registers, vestry >> books >> and burial books, I am sorry to have to disagree with Nivard that one >> could not be buried without a certificate, as in many cases the >> clergy, be >> them Protestant or RC, or wheelbarrow, only needed a body to bury, >> and >> this is what happened, I will agree that as time marched on >> circumstances >> changed, and right of burial did require a permit, and other >> burials s did >> require a certificate of death, but did the people pre 1900 always >> receive >> one? >> I dont think so. >> >> As far as tombstones are concerned, you will be lucky if you can >> locate a >> graveyard with the headstone within it, and certainly if Julie is >> seeking >> 1826 headstone for a child, it will be a long search to locate it, >> I dont >> say it does not exist, I am saying now it will be a long search to >> locate >> it, which means that the area where said person may have been >> buried may >> by now be a park or a car park and all headstones have been turned to >> rubble. >> >> >> Cheers >> Cara >> >> >> I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. >> It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter >> >> > > > > I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. > It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-DUBLIN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-DUBLIN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-DUBLIN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 367 > ******************************************