Hi Valerie I am not so familiar with the Irish system of Civil registration as I am the English & Welsh but reading up a little it appears it was on similar lines and changes were made in similar periods, probably for the same reasons There is a good passage here http://www.groireland.ie/history.htm This touches on but does not go into it deeply, the specific ways in which events were collected/recorded but I get the impression things were largely the same as in Eng/Wales Firstly its true to say that every system is flawed to a point and will miss or record incorrectly some events and as humans are involved there will be the resultant human errors, events missed, incorrectly recorded, not reported, duplicated even In Eng/Wales Civil registration started in mid 1837 somewhat earlier than Ireland, from the start the onus was on the Registrar to actively seek out events, rather than the parents (in the case of a birth) be obligated to go and register There was not a penalty for not registering until the 1870's (it would appear to be 1880's in Ireland), Registrars were paid by the event registered this also lead in some cases to some Registrars supplementing their income by registering fictitious events, but inevitably some events were missed as the parents moved or the Registrar was unaware of them In the early days of Civil registration many parents assumed Baptism was as good as registration so didn't bother with the Civil part Then as now there is/was a distrust of officialdom, people simply did not believe it was being done for anything other than some nefarious reason by the Government, so they tried there utmost to avoid it Not helped by the attitude of the Church who thought it was their job and the Government were undermining their authority Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am wondering what the procedure was about registering a vital event in > Ireland. > > Over here the vitals were submitted to the local court who was then supposed > to send them the Register General. This is why some of them are missing as > they never reached the RG. > > Anyone with any suggestions please ? > > Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney

Many thanks Nivard for this most interesting reply and for the time you have given to further research. It is greatly appreciaited. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Friday, 8 April 2011 3:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Registering of a vital recoard ? Hi Valerie I am not so familiar with the Irish system of Civil registration as I am the English & Welsh but reading up a little it appears it was on similar lines and changes were made in similar periods, probably for the same reasons There is a good passage here http://www.groireland.ie/history.htm This touches on but does not go into it deeply, the specific ways in which events were collected/recorded but I get the impression things were largely the same as in Eng/Wales Firstly its true to say that every system is flawed to a point and will miss or record incorrectly some events and as humans are involved there will be the resultant human errors, events missed, incorrectly recorded, not reported, duplicated even In Eng/Wales Civil registration started in mid 1837 somewhat earlier than Ireland, from the start the onus was on the Registrar to actively seek out events, rather than the parents (in the case of a birth) be obligated to go and register There was not a penalty for not registering until the 1870's (it would appear to be 1880's in Ireland), Registrars were paid by the event registered this also lead in some cases to some Registrars supplementing their income by registering fictitious events, but inevitably some events were missed as the parents moved or the Registrar was unaware of them In the early days of Civil registration many parents assumed Baptism was as good as registration so didn't bother with the Civil part Then as now there is/was a distrust of officialdom, people simply did not believe it was being done for anything other than some nefarious reason by the Government, so they tried there utmost to avoid it Not helped by the attitude of the Church who thought it was their job and the Government were undermining their authority Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am wondering what the procedure was about registering a vital event in > Ireland. > > Over here the vitals were submitted to the local court who was then supposed > to send them the Register General. This is why some of them are missing as > they never reached the RG. > > Anyone with any suggestions please ? > > Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message