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Today I came across "Alumni Dublinenses 1593-1846 -A registry of the Students, Graduates, Professors and Provosts of Trinity College in the University of Dublin" (published 1935). In it I found my 4xg-grandfather George Drew Keogh (c1782-1861) who apparently became a pensioner student on October 3 1796 at the age of 13. Can anyone tell me whether the college at this period effectively provided a secondary education prior to matriculation for a bachelor's degree? Incidentally has anyone come across the Christian name 'Elio' who was apparently a brother (who probably died young)? Note: The book provides information on place of birth, father's name and status, and school(master) and I recommend it as a source. Unfortunately the version on Google only provides snippet information. The copy I found (at Durham University Library)had to have the sheet slit to allow me to view the Keogh's. Regards Alan Swindale Family History starts with births and ends with lives. Researching Swindale, Swindle, Swindell, Swindells, Swyndle etc! (anywhere) Gregg, Nicholson, Usher (Cumberland, Westmorland, Lancashire) Rattray (Edinburgh), Mahler (Amsterdam), Keogh (Dublin), Butler (London), Holmes (Dorset)