I also have found Alumni Dublinenses to be an excellent resource.  I usually have to run into the city to do lookups of names I'm researching, but I just recently learned that my library could request this book from another library in another USA state for me.  Also, the version in my area is an older edition .  However, I found a later edition was available out of state, which I have in my possession for 5 more days before I finally must return it.  The preface to the book does not tell about a secondary education that the school offered prior to matriculation.  My guess is that it did not since the record for each student has the teacher or school's name that the student attended prior to matriculation, such as the referen ce for y our George Keogh who studied under Mr. Lyons prior to his matriculation.  But that is only my guess. By the way, the 1935 edition I have borrowed has a supplement in the third volume which has the Trinity records through 1860.  Unfortunately, I had to return that volume already. Anyway, the main reason I write this is to say to everyone that if there is a book such as Alumni Dublinenses  that you want to view, you might check with your local library as to whether they can request it at another library for you. John ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:33:31 -0000 From: " Alan Swindale" <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] George Drew Keogh - Trinity College Dublin 1796 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;        charset="us-ascii" Today I came across "Alumni Dublinenses 1593-1846 -A registry of the Students, Graduates, Professors and Provosts of Trinity College in the University of Dublin" (published 1935). In it I found my 4xg-grandfather George Drew Keogh (c1782-1861) who apparently became a pensioner student on October 3 1796 at the age of 13. Can anyone tell me whether the college at this period effectively provided a secondary education prior to matriculation for a bachelor's degree? Incidentally has anyone come across the Christian name 'Elio' who was apparently a brother (who probably died young)? Note: The book provides information on place of birth, father's name and status, and school(master) and I recommend it as a source. Unfortunately the version on Google only provides snippet information. The copy I found (at Durham University Library)had to have the sheet slit to allow me to view the Keogh's. Regards Alan Swindale

Hi John and all It may be of interest to know that its also available online at :- http://www.familyrelatives.com/ It is a subscription site but relatively cheap compared to others Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I also have found Alumni Dublinenses to be an excellent resource. I usually have to run into the > city to do lookups of names I'm researching, but I just recently learned that my library could > request this book from another library in another USA state for me. Also, the version in my area > is an older edition . However, I found a later edition was available out of state, which I have in > my possession for 5 more days before I finally must return it. > The preface to the book does not tell about a secondary education that the school offered prior to > matriculation. My guess is that it did not since the record for each student has the teacher or > school's name that the student attended prior to matriculation, such as the referen ce for y our > George Keogh who studied under Mr. Lyons prior to his matriculation. But that is only my guess. > By the way, the 1935 edition I have borrowed has a supplement in the third volume which has the > Trinity records through 1860. Unfortunately, I had to return that volume already. > Anyway, the main reason I write this is to say to everyone that if there is a book such as Alumni > Dublinenses that you want to view, you might check with your local library as to whether they can > request it at another library for you. > John