Hi Cara & all There have been two different enquiries that were posted under the same subject line which seems to be muddying the waters The first was to do with a birth and was from an extraction (as it was part of a batch extraction) <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-DUBLIN/2012-07/1343077628> The second was to do with data found under the category "Trees" which is all submitted data (but not part of the Records Category, you have to select Trees to get it or follow the prompts from below search results (see below) <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-DUBLIN/2012-07/1343146977> On familysearch under the banner :- Discover Your Family History Are various categories :- Records Trees Catalog Books (ignoring Catalog & Books for now) It defaults to Records where you can search all records indexed but *no* submitted data To get the submitted data at present you need to select "Trees" where you will find the description :- ================== Family Trees contains millions of lineage linked genealogies. These pedigrees come from Ancestral File, the Pedigree Resource File (PRF) and other patron submissions. ================== If you search the extracted data under "Records" you will notice the submitted tree data is displayed below the hits but are not part of it (if there are corresponding records in Trees) At present I don't know how the submitted data that was part of the IGI will be displayed, I hope under trees and not under Records but believe they have learned by the mistakes of the past so will keep it separate It is in a separate category under (Community Contributed IGI (Personal family information submitted to the LDS Church) But is not as yet available ================== So in summary, if you search familysearch under "Records" you will only get extracted data and if you search "Trees" you will get submitted data All data found under "Records" should be checked by sourcing the original document All data found under "Trees" should be treated as a signpost but also with caution until evidence is found to corroborate it ================== I was under the impression that all the Pedigree CDs had been superceded by the online verions under "Trees" I do not think the Pedigree CDs are available any longer Perhaps someone can try a few from the CDs on the "Trees" category to see if they are on there Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/07/2012 02:56, Cara wrote: > And this is what I was referring to actually when I was making my first > mail, that these are personal inputs with no way of getting back to the > submitter, and not the site Nivard was talking of. So it can become > confusing so I would like to see Nivard's input to this also. > > > I know there is wrong data submitted by even myself into these Pedigree > Sources, and to clarify something else, the LDS actually took down a lot of > these pedigrees and are selling them on in a Pedigree Resource File set of > CD's-------- it would appear to me they actually have sold them in Volumes > as someone has made me a gift of Volume 4. so there is certainly a 1, 2 and > 3 if anyone wants to make me that gift as well., everything has a base to be > looked at everything can be used as a guide line, but everything needs to be > checked at the original source if you can. > > Cheers > Cara

And this is what I was referring to actually when I was making my first mail, that these are personal inputs with no way of getting back to the submitter, and not the site Nivard was talking of. So it can become confusing so I would like to see Nivard's input to this also. I know there is wrong data submitted by even myself into these Pedigree Sources, and to clarify something else, the LDS actually took down a lot of these pedigrees and are selling them on in a Pedigree Resource File set of CD's-------- it would appear to me they actually have sold them in Volumes as someone has made me a gift of Volume 4. so there is certainly a 1, 2 and 3 if anyone wants to make me that gift as well., everything has a base to be looked at everything can be used as a guide line, but everything needs to be checked at the original source if you can. Cheers Cara -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Warther Sent: 25 July 2012 02:23 To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Incomplete indexed birth: ?infant dead at birthorsoon Nivard, I delayed responding with my question because I think it applies to this, and then I read Cara's later apology.  So I thought I better get my question in... Anyway, I just found some new information on familysearch.org that was very helpful to me .  However, I could not understand where this information came from until I stumbled on the fact that names and dates are tied to Queensland, Australia vital records, so I think that was the original source in this case, although the records don't show it.  Rather, i t seems to be user-submitted information, and it was found under the "Trees" catagory at familysearch.org, rather than under "Records."  When you go under "user submitted trees," it brings up a "Pedigree Resource File" for my "Caroline Conran."  It was submitted 18 Apr 2001, submission ID MM9T-393 , with 10,824 people submitted. I haven't read the webinar to which you referred yet, but I will soon.  But I do wonder if this is the kind of information that is supposed to be under "Community Contributed IGI," and if this information is already available in a different way, or did I completely miss the point? Is there any way to know where information such as the above "Pedigree Resource File" came from in order to check out the information.  In this case, I stumbled on it in Australia, but otherwise I would not have known whether to trust it or not. Thank you for your advice about this. John ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-dublin-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:51:16 AM Subject: IRL-DUBLIN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 227 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:03:38 +0100 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Incomplete indexed birth: ?infant dead at         birth orsoon after Message-ID: <500E72FA.7030803@sky.com> Hi Cara Maybe its just the way I read your post but with respect you seem to imply that all batch numbers on newfamilysearch are submitted by other peoples research? The opposite is true at the moment Currently newfamilysearch contains no patron submitted items The IGI is now available on newfamilysearch but contains only extracted data with the submitted data yet to come, the two will be searchable separately When available the submitted data will be called the :- Community Contributed IGI All entries should of course be checked with the original for accuracy, extra detail etc All transcriptions have errors and omissions so its vital to go back to source Some may find the following webinar of interest on searching newfamilysearch http://broadcast.lds.org/eLearning/fhd/Community/en/FamilySearch/Product_Web inars/Robert_Kehrer_-_June_21_2012/Player.html Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/07/2012 00:40, Cara wrote: > These batch numbers are supplied by researchers like yourself, and they no > nothing more on the child than you have gleaned from their input to the web > site you found it on. > > > When you find in a  Church of Ireland parish register a child with no name > you will find it   mostly always has added information, for instance it may > say Private Baptism, which usually signified a sickly child or mother was > not well or they were of the upper crust elite part of the church. >    I always question these inputs that contain *batch Numbers* or placed in > the LDS files by another researcher, as everyone research is only a > guideline you still have the leg work to do as in regards of proving > anything, nothing unseen by your is proven. > ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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There are volumes up to at least 40 (from a # of years ago). I was furious that a cousin uploaded my unchecked data which is no for sale to others and was not checked, corrected. -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:57 PM To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Question to Nivard thanks And this is what I was referring to actually when I was making my first mail, that these are personal inputs with no way of getting back to the submitter, and not the site Nivard was talking of. So it can become confusing so I would like to see Nivard's input to this also. I know there is wrong data submitted by even myself into these Pedigree Sources, and to clarify something else, the LDS actually took down a lot of these pedigrees and are selling them on in a Pedigree Resource File set of CD's-------- it would appear to me they actually have sold them in Volumes as someone has made me a gift of Volume 4. so there is certainly a 1, 2 and 3 if anyone wants to make me that gift as well., everything has a base to be looked at everything can be used as a guide line, but everything needs to be checked at the original source if you can. Cheers Cara -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Warther Sent: 25 July 2012 02:23 To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Incomplete indexed birth: ?infant dead at birthorsoon Nivard, I delayed responding with my question because I think it applies to this, and then I read Cara's later apology.  So I thought I better get my question in... Anyway, I just found some new information on familysearch.org that was very helpful to me .  However, I could not understand where this information came from until I stumbled on the fact that names and dates are tied to Queensland, Australia vital records, so I think that was the original source in this case, although the records don't show it.  Rather, i t seems to be user-submitted information, and it was found under the "Trees" catagory at familysearch.org, rather than under "Records."  When you go under "user submitted trees," it brings up a "Pedigree Resource File" for my "Caroline Conran."  It was submitted 18 Apr 2001, submission ID MM9T-393 , with 10,824 people submitted. I haven't read the webinar to which you referred yet, but I will soon.  But I do wonder if this is the kind of information that is supposed to be under "Community Contributed IGI," and if this information is already available in a different way, or did I completely miss the point? Is there any way to know where information such as the above "Pedigree Resource File" came from in order to check out the information.  In this case, I stumbled on it in Australia, but otherwise I would not have known whether to trust it or not. Thank you for your advice about this. John ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-dublin-request@rootsweb.com To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:51:16 AM Subject: IRL-DUBLIN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 227 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:03:38 +0100 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Incomplete indexed birth: ?infant dead at         birth orsoon after Message-ID: <500E72FA.7030803@sky.com> Hi Cara Maybe its just the way I read your post but with respect you seem to imply that all batch numbers on newfamilysearch are submitted by other peoples research? The opposite is true at the moment Currently newfamilysearch contains no patron submitted items The IGI is now available on newfamilysearch but contains only extracted data with the submitted data yet to come, the two will be searchable separately When available the submitted data will be called the :- Community Contributed IGI All entries should of course be checked with the original for accuracy, extra detail etc All transcriptions have errors and omissions so its vital to go back to source Some may find the following webinar of interest on searching newfamilysearch http://broadcast.lds.org/eLearning/fhd/Community/en/FamilySearch/Product_Web inars/Robert_Kehrer_-_June_21_2012/Player.html Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/07/2012 00:40, Cara wrote: > These batch numbers are supplied by researchers like yourself, and > they no > nothing more on the child than you have gleaned from their input to > the web > site you found it on. > > > When you find in a  Church of Ireland parish register a child with no > name > you will find it   mostly always has added information, for instance > it may > say Private Baptism, which usually signified a sickly child or mother > was not well or they were of the upper crust elite part of the church. >    I always question these inputs that contain *batch Numbers* or > placed in > the LDS files by another researcher, as everyone research is only a > guideline you still have the leg work to do as in regards of proving > anything, nothing unseen by your is proven. > ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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Jeff, Thank you for adding these heartbreaking items to the record. Do you know who or what John Street at Bathurst was? PJ > Maurice or Morris Dunn > > Tried on 25 March 1824 Dublin > > Indicted and found guilty of stealing lead > > Sentenced to be transported for seven years > > Maurice's occupation was a gardener > > Arrived on board the Ann & Amelia on 2 Jan; 1825 from Cork > > During the voyage Dunn received twenty-five lashes for insubordination. > > In 1828 he was assigned to John Street at Bathurst. He received a > Certificate of Freedom on 26 March 1831 that gave his full decryption. On > 14 Nov; 1832 his ticket was cancelled on the instruction from the Bathurst > Bench. > >

William Cox Tried on 2 Jan; 1832 in Dublin Indicted and found guilty of stealing a shirt Sentenced to be transported for seven years William's occupation was an errand boy Arrived on board the Dunvegan Castle 2 on the 16 Oct; 1832 from Dublin. On his arrival he was eleven years old and by 1837 he was assigned to John Street at Bathurst Maria Blake Tried on 7 July 1825 in Dublin Indicted and found guilty of stealing a watch Sentenced to be transported for life Maria's occupation was a dressmaker Arrival she was first assigned to Mrs Elizabeth Todhunter in Sydney. In 1828 she was reassigned to John Street of Bathurst. She was issued a Ticket of Leave on 11 July 1839, and allowed to remain in the District of Bathurst on recommendation of the Bench. In 1837 her name appears as working for George Inns, at Capita NSW. On Blake's ticket is written that on the 24 April 1840 she died while a patient in the general hospital Sydney

Hi Folks, Looking for anyone named PLACE who may have an Alexander Place or George in their family please. Working on a theory at the moment. Alexander and George feature throughout the ages in my family from at least c1778. I have a 4th Great Grandfather Alexande Place who was married at St John the Baptist, Church, Halifax, West Riding of Yorkshire. He married Mary BROWN a Halifax, Tailors daughter, he was George BROWN. George was deceased at the time of their marraige in 1817. Alexanders marraige was announced in the Halifax Courier and he was described as a Gentleman. He was an Attorneys Clerk, sometimes Bookkeeper and at the time of his death in 1835 at Halifax was secretary to the Court of requests, Halifax. West Riding of Yorkshire. My 3rd Gt GF was also an attorneys cleri as have others beensince. I feel George Godfrey Place Barrister of 35 Usher's Quays in Dublin, 1842 Dublin Pettigrew &Oultons Directory is related and maybe how my fmily became Clerks in the legal field. All Surmises at present but strong instinct going on. No one has ever found hisour Alexander Place birth anywhere in England so I have now found little clues along the way tht may have him born in Ireland. We have a Alexander Place baptised to George and Mary Place at North Molton, Devon, England1735, I think this is either his father or uncle. There are a couple more baptisms at North Molton as well, these could be related. they were John Place chr 30 October 1770, North Molton, Devon to a Catherine PLACE. I am assuming she was a spinster, so ydna wise that could be tricky. The Alexander Place bap chr 28 March, 1735 to George and Mary the only baptism to this couple no more records for either three of them, so think the Alexander Place I have who had a business contract in minerals along with three other former Englishman in Ireland but the minerals was elsewhere, is this Alexander born in Devon as I had to purchase the Contract from the Devon record Office. Now along with this Alexander same period is A son Jonathan Plaise to a Jonathan Plaise and Margarit. I think this is a different spelling for the sme Place family, as you will see a Jonathan and Margart Place under. there is a Thomasine born to this couple 1736, plus a Margarit 1739, Catherine still to Jonathan Place and Margaret. There is a Joshua Place and wife Jane having Jane chr 30 Jan 1734, also same couple christened Martin 30 Jan, 1734 a Joshua 11 April 1737 anyway if you look for Plaise or Place in North Molton yu cn see. I think These families all belong to the Aloexander 1735 to George and Mary who in my opinion is he one in Dublin a Linen draper and merce or merchandiser. Recently a Jonathan Plaice of Cork was in touch, I cant help feeling he also belongs. He was enquiring about the differences in the surname PLACE. I also note a Thomas Plares. This was a chr for Thomas 2 Jun 1718 to Thomas Plares and Mary. I beleive this to be Place as well. When we first found our Alexander Place it had been transcribed as Plare. Even a reseacher hadnt picked it up it was my second cousin too ill now to reserch who noted the mistake. I have had my brothers ydna done a while back and need a Irish Place family who belongs to the Alexander Place linen drapers family or even anyone connected to the VC winner Basil Godfrey Place as we have now connected him to the Irish Place family. I have yet to check a will out some kind gentleman on one of these Irish lists found me. It is for George Place miniature painter,born to a linen draper or merchandiser Essex Bridge, Assuming this to be Alexander the Dublin linen draper and his wife Elizabeth or his brother if any. Alexander was also of this address to Alexander and Elizabeth in 1775, Dublin. I think it will help in some way so thanks for that. It is inbteresting that Alexndser the linen Drper and Elizabeth had daughters Catherine and Mary, so possible Catherine the spinster who chr John in 1770 at North Molton my have been Alexanders chr 1735 s neice. regards Edie McArthur

I have been informed that my surname McColough while Irish has its start in Scotland and that we come from that country many years ago. Where can I read information regarding this migration? My understanding was the Irish went to Scotland each year to help with the harvest but returned to Ireland. What I would like to be able to read is a statement to say if the McColough's or a derivative of this name come from Scotland or is this another Scottish myth. Graham McColough <mailto:graham@mccolough.net> graham@mccolough.net

As there are better ways to achieve that I have replied off list Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 27/07/2012 15:51, pjsalis@hal-pc.org wrote: > > Hello list, > > You probably already know this, but I use this shortcut a lot and hope it > will help someone else. > > When I want just a temporary copy of something I see on a screen, or when > I don't currently need or want to go to the trouble of downloading and > printing a pdf of something, I use the Print Screen (PrtScn) function.

Dear Graham, I looked your surname up in All Ireland Surnames with this result: MacCollough is a very rare surname of Co. Antrim. It then refers me to MacCullough, and there it says: "Numerous in the Belfast & Down area and Ulster generally; scattered elsewhere. The Irish is Mac Cú Ulaidh (Hound of Ulster). The name is current in Scotland and MacLysaght mentions that it might derive from 'collach', a bear, but it seems more logical that all the names have the same source in Ulster, though many subsequently came as settlers in the 17th century." I have never read quite such an ambiguous entry for a surname before. It MIGHT be Irish with 2 Irish choices for the origin. It might be Scot. It might have two origins - Ireland and Scotland. I think the only answer you are going to get is going to come from DNA testing on this one. Sorry I can't help more. Janet On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Graham <graham@mccolough.net> wrote: > I have been informed that my surname McColough while Irish has its start in > Scotland and that we come from that country many years ago. > > Where can I read information regarding this migration? My understanding was > the Irish went to Scotland each year to help with the harvest but returned > to Ireland. > > What I would like to be able to read is a statement to say if the > McColough's or a derivative of this name come from Scotland or is this > another Scottish myth. > > > > > > Graham McColough > > <mailto:graham@mccolough.net> graham@mccolough.net > >

Edward James Hayden son of Edward Hayden and Margaret Merrigan was baptised in 1845 St Marys in Haddington Road RC so therefore you now need to widen your search estimate to cover 1845 ...no other children have I found to the parents. And nothing more on them either http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie Merrigan is a co Wicklow Surname also if that is of interest to you as well. Cheers Cara

Hello list, You probably already know this, but I use this shortcut a lot and hope it will help someone else. When I want just a temporary copy of something I see on a screen, or when I don't currently need or want to go to the trouble of downloading and printing a pdf of something, I use the Print Screen (PrtScn) function. * Position the screen image as desired * Hit the PrtScn key, which creates a copy of the screen image * Go to a blank Word page * Paste the copy on the Word page * Crop and re-size the copied image as desired * Repeat as needed to collect images from pages longer than a single screen * Print or save as desired This trick saves time and printer ink, for one thing, but it also simplifies the sharing of images since it can be easier to send an e-mail with the Word page as an attachment than to send a pdf. The Word image will show the URL of an online screen image, so you can later find and retrieve the pdf image if you decide you want a good permanent version. PJ

Irish Censuses for 1901 & 1911 at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/. Lots of Hayden info at http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search Hayden's here too http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearchhttp://www.dublin1850.com/dublin1850/xdubdir37.html Happy hunting! Colette > Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:33:08 +0100 > From: johnmaggie11@yahoo.co.uk > To: growingatree@hotmail.com; irl-dublin@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Resources for Researching Ancestors from Dublin?? > > Ancesstry, ifhf, irishgenealogy, LDS, libraryireland, eneclann, dublinheritage, > nationalarchives.ie to mention a few. > Some of these are paying sites. > Maggie > > On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:08, Growing A Tree <growingatree@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi there, > I have been researching our tree for 20+ years (on and off) but I am a newbie when it comes to research in Dublin. Is there a website that might provide a list of the resources available for doing research on ancestors from Dublin? I have done some google searches and stumbled upon some very good resources, but I feel like I am shooting in the dark and I'd like a more strategic approach to this! I am sure that I am missing some worthwhile sources. I have done a bit of research in N. Ireland -- is there something similar to PRONI for Dublin? > > > BTW - the ancestors I have identified thus far lived in Dublin from about 1850-1900 time period. They lived on Strand Road in Sandymount at "Rear of Belvidere Cottages." They were Catholic and I have located the baptism and burial location for some of them. I am working mostly from old letters which amazingly survived all this time -- written by Edward HAYDEN Sr (in Dublin) to his son Edward James HAYDEN Jr. (in NY). The people mentioned in these letters lived in Merrion, Dublin, and Burkes. Based on baptismal records, it appears that Edward Hayden Sr. was married to Margaret MERRIGAN. > > > I appreciate any pointers you can offer! > Kind regard, > > Debbie > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The person who asked about this name would you contact me off the list please At my email address Cara

Hello list, I recently asked about a Dublin-city family having BMD events in both COI and RC churches. I think I've answered the question, for them at least. They were originally COI people, not RC, but when necessary and for other reasons they covered other bases. Here's some info I've collected from http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie. Susan Curtis (b. 1857), eighth child of Gardiner Curtis & Catherine Hawkins * baptized Eustace St. Presbyterian 1857 Mar 15 & baptized COI St. Mary 1857 Mar 18 * married COI St. Thomas to John Rea 1877 Jun 21 That there were two baptisms at different Protestant churches is curious. Susan and John's daughter Elizabeth Rea (I don't have birth info on her yet) * baptized RC St. Mary Pro Cathedral 1897 May 24, image of baptismal record verified to say born 1878 Mar 23 * married RC St. Mary Pro Cathedral 1897 May 30 to George Byrne So if she was baptized as an infant, it was probably in a COI church. Then when she was set to marry a Catholic, six days beforehand she was baptized at the RC church. Martha Elizabeth (b. 1860), tenth child of Gardiner Curtis & Catherine Hawkins * baptized COI St Mary 1861 Jan 25 & baptized RC St. Mary Pro Cathedral 1861 Jan 28 * married RC St. Mary Pro Cathedral 1884 Sep 7 to Patrick Finnegan That as an infant she was baptized at both COI and RC churches is curious. Gardiner and Catherine's other children were baptized COI, including the last known one, Benjamin Henry, baptized COI St. Mary in 1866. The line I'm researching descends from the couple's third son, Thomas, and all his known children were baptized RC. What I've learned: * Irish people might be RC or COI or other Protestant denominations -- obvious now, but not when approaching the search with a preconception. * These Curtises seem to be mostly Protestant. That knowledge may help me as I go further back in their history. Small steps for big feet! PJ, Texas

Ancesstry, ifhf, irishgenealogy, LDS, libraryireland, eneclann, dublinheritage, nationalarchives.ie to mention a few. Some of these are paying sites. Maggie On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:08, Growing A Tree <growingatree@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi there, I have been researching our tree for 20+ years (on and off) but I am a newbie when it comes to research in Dublin. Is there a website that might provide a list of the resources available for doing research on ancestors from Dublin? I have done some google searches and stumbled upon some very good resources, but I feel like I am shooting in the dark and I'd like a more strategic approach to this! I am sure that I am missing some worthwhile sources. I have done a bit of research in N. Ireland -- is there something similar to PRONI for Dublin? BTW - the ancestors I have identified thus far lived in Dublin from about 1850-1900 time period. They lived on Strand Road in Sandymount at "Rear of Belvidere Cottages." They were Catholic and I have located the baptism and burial location for some of them. I am working mostly from old letters which amazingly survived all this time -- written by Edward HAYDEN Sr (in Dublin) to his son Edward James HAYDEN Jr. (in NY). The people mentioned in these letters lived in Merrion, Dublin, and Burkes. Based on baptismal records, it appears that Edward Hayden Sr. was married to Margaret MERRIGAN. I appreciate any pointers you can offer! Kind regard, Debbie ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Saint Nicholas within (inside the Medievil City Walls) is only a ruin now. It's oppisate Christ Church Cathedral + beside Jury's Inn. St. Nicholas Without + St. Lukes is off Ardee street on the stretch of rd between the Holy Faith Convent school on the Coombe + Ardee street. (outside the Walls), Maggie On 25 Jul 2012, at 20:38, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: Okay, this is very useful but how do I tell St Nicholas within from without <G> the Irish genealogy site only says St Nicholas? I love Ireland but I sure get lost researching <G> in Dublin. Eliz On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Cara <cara_links@bigpond.com> wrote: This is as link that may help you with your search http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/civilparish/index.cfm?fuseaction=Ge tMap&CityCounty=Dublin Copy and paste into Google the whole big URL and go searching Dublin City covers these two Churches but someone may decide on a parish name for you Cara ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you! This is the only clue I have as to where any possible member of my family is from - well other than "Dublin" <G> Eliz On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Margaret Doyle <johnmaggie11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, Saint Nicholas within (inside the Medievil City Walls) is only a ruin now. It's oppisate Christ Church Cathedral + beside Jury's Inn. > St. Nicholas Without + St. Lukes is off Ardee street on the stretch of rd between the Holy Faith Convent school on the Coombe + Ardee street. (outside the Walls), > Maggie > > On 25 Jul 2012, at 20:38, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: > > Okay, this is very useful but how do I tell St Nicholas within from > without <G> the Irish genealogy site only says St Nicholas? I love > Ireland but I sure get lost researching <G> in Dublin. > > > > Eliz > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Cara <cara_links@bigpond.com> wrote: > This is as link that may help you with your search > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/civilparish/index.cfm?fuseaction=Ge > tMap&CityCounty=Dublin > > Copy and paste into Google the whole big URL and go searching > > > Dublin City covers these two Churches but someone may decide on a parish > name for you > > Cara > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nancy Thanks for taking the time to look up some information and also replying. Your information is very detailed and I will need to give it time to see if any names or times fit. Regards Graham -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Vada Gibb Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012 5:10 AM To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] McColough Family Hi Graham, I can't help with your McColoughs but wonder if the spelling was originally McCullagh/MacCullagh/McCourt, etc. I have a Robert MacCullagh who married Emily Wade in Dublin in 1862. I've been searching for him, and them, for ages. Here's what I've found. Robert and Emily were witnesses to a marriage in 1869 in St Catherine's, Dublin (COI).. Garrett Byrne, Corporal 4th Royals, of the Royal Barracks m. Catherine McCort (McCourt?). Their fathers were both farmers. The regiment was the 4th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards. The Regiment was in England in 1867, Ireland in 1872, England in 1878 - 1882 then went to Egypt. Back to England the same year and to the Sudan in 1884. In 1894 the Regiment went to India and in 1904 were in South Africa. So, Robert may have been a soldier. Or the wife Catherine was simply a friend of Emily's. Or Catherine was actually a relative of Robert's, with different surname spelling?? 1901 1911 Irish censuses: A Robert McCullagh aged 66, watchmaker amd jeweller, was in the 1911 Census, at Main St. Letterkenny Urban DED, Co. Donegal. But with a wife Margaret. A Robert McCullagh aged 61 with no wife but 6 children, was in the 1901 at Brootally, Armagh. Daiughter Minnie. Another aged 63, wife Elizabeth aged 50 and 5 ch, at Mullaghbrack, Armagh Another aged 65 with wife Eliza 45, mo in law Mary and 5 ch at Ballmyre, Armagh. The English Census 1881 has a Robert McCulloch b 1839 Ireland, railway porter visiting in Lancashire. An Ann McCulloch aged 39 thus b. abt 1842 was with him. No Emily of any McCullough variant in the 1881. 1880 USA Census: Robert McCullagh b abt 1840 Ireland, Res. 1880 Chicago, spouse Elizabeth b abt 1845 , child Henry aged 17 thus b. 1863; R R Conductor. 14 others living with them - a boarding house? Robert was head of Household. (Curious he was also with the railways!). There is a Robert McCullagh son of James b 13 Aug 1796 in Of Corfad and Sarah Murdock b 30 Jun 1787, who died 6 April 1892 in 4343 Champlain Ave Chicago Illinois USA. (rootsweb.ancestry.com; Jacksons & relations in Ulster), . No birth date or place given, and no wife or children given. Also a Robert Wallace McCullagh b 23 Sept 1841 Newry Co. Down, d 20 Nov 1867 place not given. son of William McCullagh b 1814 and Sarah Wallace b 24 Oct 1821 in Newry Co. Down. One of 13 children. No other details, no wife etc. Same reference. A Robert McCullagh b abt 1838 aged 72 died in Armagh, ireland in the Jan-Mar quarter 1910. Civil Reg. Film 0101604 Vol 1 p 39. Dig folder no. 4201708, image no --490. Image not available yet on FamilySearch. Another Robert McCullagh b 1837 aged 71 died Cookstown Oct-Dec 1908. (0101604, 1, 345, 4201708, 00203). As you can see I concentrated mainly on the McCullagh spelling. Perhaps I narrowed the field too much. Most of them seemed to come from Armagh. Nancy. > The Census records of Nova Scotia are excellent and the family have > stated they come from Ireland,(no town or county). Folk law says we > come from Armagh. > ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is as link that may help you with your search http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/civilparish/index.cfm?fuseaction=Ge tMap&CityCounty=Dublin Copy and paste into Google the whole big URL and go searching Dublin City covers these two Churches but someone may decide on a parish name for you Cara

Okay, this is very useful but how do I tell St Nicholas within from without <G> the Irish genealogy site only says St Nicholas? I love Ireland but I sure get lost researching <G> in Dublin. Eliz On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Cara <cara_links@bigpond.com> wrote: > This is as link that may help you with your search > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/civilparish/index.cfm?fuseaction=Ge > tMap&CityCounty=Dublin > > Copy and paste into Google the whole big URL and go searching > > > Dublin City covers these two Churches but someone may decide on a parish > name for you > > Cara > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message