Hi Cara I am like Nivard & thought I had missed something also. Not sure what this person's on about. I am very happy with your input & the way the list is run. Regards Judy -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 6:28 PM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Cc: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com; irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] A question of listers I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the list, having been accused of doing mass postings Looking for accolades, which may I point out is not and will never be my intentions, so therefore, I am now wondering what this person was actually on about, and am now asking listers are you happy with what I post to the list or would you be quite happy for it to remain with no input and sharing from Myself, or indeed others should they desire to share with us.

I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the list, having been accused of doing mass postings Looking for accolades, which may I point out is not and will never be my intentions, so therefore, I am now wondering what this person was actually on about, and am now asking listers are you happy with what I post to the list or would you be quite happy for it to remain with no input and sharing from Myself, or indeed others should they desire to share with us. Feel free to be honest I would not have asked if I had not of wanted to know the outcome. There will be no repercussions on anyone that wishes to make a comment, I am in fact looking to see if there is a need to change the way things have been done in the past on the list. Yours as a lister Cara

Dear Cara, I don't know what mass postings are. What I do know is that I have appreciated and benefited enormously from this list and from your attentive nurturing of it and of us listers. Fie on the offensive ingrate! Thank you. PJ in Texas

Cara,   You are a wealth of information and I enjoy reading your posts.  Often a new find is not one that is discovered with a click.  More often it is found after reading a post or another source of information that triggers a search in a new place or thought process.   Keep it up!   Gail ________________________________ From: Cara <cara_links@bigpond.com> To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Cc: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com; irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:28 PM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] A question of listers I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the list, having been accused of doing mass postings Looking for accolades, which may I point out is not and will never be my intentions, so therefore, I am now wondering what this  person was actually on about, and  am now asking listers are you happy with what I post to the list or would you be quite happy for it to remain with no input and sharing from Myself, or indeed others should they desire to share with us. Feel free to be honest I would not have asked if I had not of wanted to know the outcome. There will be no repercussions on anyone that wishes to make a comment, I am in fact looking to see if there is a need to change the way  things have been done in the past on the list. Yours as a lister Cara ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Wendy, bann them. As a list admin myself for a small number of surname lists, the turnover on those lists is very very low. One thing I will say is that this list in my opinion has never made me feel that I’ve been deluged with mailings. I simply check the subject line, if I feel it’s of interest or in reply to me, I’ll read it. If not, I use my delete key. Simple, effective and causes no one hastle however many mailings come in on any given list. Keep doing what you’re doing, the problem is their’s, not your’s. You’re doing right, they aren’t. Kindest regards, Jon

I have to piggy back my reply since I didn't see the original that Cara posted. Most of us will kill for a list admin that sends items to the list and is very active! People who find these nifty tidbits are a blessing to any list and need to be treasured <G> They may be of no real interest to me or they maybe the gem that helps me find my Dublin family how will I know if I don't check the posts out? There is always someone (and sometimes really nice someones on a bad day) who think the list should be narrow and genealogy is only old records of dates not records of life in general. To me it is all that tells us about our ancestors and their way of life. Things that seem logical to us have no logic to those living back in the day. On another list we had a member who was stunned that her ancestors "who could read and write" might live in a home, one roomed home, with a dirt floor. She had never researched living conditions in our area (outside of Philadelphia) when in reality when many got here in the 1600's they lived in caves, or hollows they scraped out along the rivers. There were years of this for many until they could build a home with a roof! We read a lot about Hedge Schools and people living along the hedge rows but we drop it from our thinking when doing genealogy. OH heck Thanks Cara!! eliz On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Allannah <allannah@alphalink.com.au> wrote: > Hi Cara, I am astonished at some people's rudeness! What you do, the > service you provide is very much appreciated by me and hundreds like me, who > don't often post to the list but look forward to you postings and the > interesting discussions that sometimes follow. I hope that you won't let > someone's rudeness upset you and I urge you to please keep up the good work > you do, it is very much appreciated by me and others like me... > Allannah of Rye Victoria

Cara, you are very giving of yourself and your time, all for us. We thank you. Linda On 08/02/12, Jan Brennan<janron.brennan@btinternet.com> wrote: I have been on the list for quite a few years and am very happy with it. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Cara Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:28 AM To: [1]irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Cc: [2]irl-wexford@rootsweb.com ; [3]irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] A question of listers I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the list, having been accused of doing mass postings Looking for accolades, which may I point out is not and will never be my intentions, so therefore, I am now wondering what this person was actually on about, and am now asking listers are you happy with what I post to the list or would you be quite happy for it to remain with no input and sharing from Myself, or indeed others should they desire to share with us. Feel free to be honest I would not have asked if I had not of wanted to know the outcome. There will be no repercussions on anyone that wishes to make a comment, I am in fact looking to see if there is a need to change the way things have been done in the past on the list. Yours as a lister Cara ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [4]IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:irl-wexford@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:irl-dublin@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com

Cara: I've only been on the list a few months, and find your comments, and those of others, most helpful. You seem to go out of your way to provide additional information, helpful links, useful sites, etc., based on what must be years of local research and knowledge. It is very much appreciated! Thank you.

Hi Hilda, Thanks. Yes, I had noticed that 1841 marriage of a Thomas Henry to a Wilhelmina Shekleton, but could not any connection to a Margaret Shekleton nor a birth/baptism for a son Thomas E J to this couple. Lis -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of hildanic@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 10:48 AM To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] re Thomas Edwin John HENRY of Kingstown Hi Lis See record: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/92e2b30581438 Shows Thomas Henry marriage to Shekleton. Hilda On 1 Lún 2012, at 18:20, "Lis Warwood" <lwarwood@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have just joined the list and am totally new to undertaking research > about people born in Ireland. I want to establish the birth, parentage > and ancestry, of Thomas Edwin John HENRY (circa 1842 - 1883) and > whether an apparent connection with the SHEKLETON surname, and in > particular a Mrs Margaret SHEKLETON, is due to a family relationship > or some other cause. At this point I don't know where to begin to find > the answers to these questions. In the hope it will help I list below what I do know. > > > > 1871: Thomas E J HENRY, 4 Eaton Rise Ealing, Middlesex, occupation > "Income from Land", b. Ireland. Wife Harriette, children Thomas 5, > Margaret > S(hekleton) 3, Edwin 2, John 1, and Thomas Roland 9 months, all born > in Ireland. Parish records (found on Ancestry.co) all the children > born Kingstown, Dublin County, mother's maiden name ARMSTRONG. > > > > 1879: The Irish Law Times Reports - In re The Estate of Martin & > Others, Owners, - concerning the partition of certain lands held under > a lease, originally from a Robert WADDELL to William MARTIN whose > interest eventually became vested in Margaret SHEKLETON and James > MARTIN as tenants in common, "and afterwards in Thomas E J HENRY, as > representing the said Margaret SHEKLETON, and in William Richard > MARTIN and Catherine MARTIN, as representatives of the said James > MARTIN." By indenture 7 August 1872 Thomas E J HENRY had granted the > lands mentioned in the petition (but not > identified) to Thomas H ARMSTRONG, William M'CRUM, and Robert Garmony > M'CRUM, and to their heirs assigns, upon trusts for the benefit of his > wife and children. > > > > 1854: Dromore County Down Return of Lands & Houses belonging to > Established Church in Ireland - shows a) "Part of Drumnahall Barony > of Lower Iveagh Lease 30 Aug 1844 Lessee Mrs Margaret SHEKLETON - > Perpetuities" b) "Drumnahall Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 27 Feb 1847 > Lessee William Henry MARTIN - Perpetuities" c) "Kilscolbane Barony of > Lower Iveagh Lease 24 June > 1848 Mrs HENRY'S Trustees" d) "Kilscolbane Barony of Lower Iveagh > Lease 22 July 1852 W. H. & J MARTIN" (these last two entries being > linked and there being renewal fines associated) e) "Drummeath Barony > of Lower Iveagh Lease > 11 March 1853 Lessee Thomas HENRY'S Executor's - Tithes under Lease" > f) "Magheradroll Tithes Baronies of Lower Iveagh & Kinclearty Lease 22 > July > 1852 Lessee MARTIN & SHEKLETON - Tithes under Lease" and g) "Rectorial > Tithes of Dawins Garnaghy Barony of Upper Iveagh Lease 28 March 1854 > Lessee Robert MARTIN - Tithes under Lease." > > > >> From all that I am assuming that the lands in question in the court >> case > relate to land in County Down, Barony of Lower Iveagh - possibly a) > Drumnahall listed above or f) Magheradroll. I have no idea what the > land/lease system was at that time in Ireland so don't really > understand what the above really meant! > > > > 1881: Thomas E. J. HENRY is still at 4 Eaton Rise Ealing recorded born > Dublin, Ireland. He dies 23 September 1883 leaving a Will with a > Personal Estate of only Five Pounds (?). His wife Harriette is > residing elsewhere in Ealing with some the children (others are off > in private schools) and recorded born Peterborough Canada. Two > children of Thomas and Harriette born after 1871 in England are at > home: Florence Stuart HENRY b. 1872 and Thomas Alexander Stewart HENRY > b. 1873. So this couple named 3 children Thomas and all children survived! > > > > 1891 - 1918: Harriette, Widow of Thomas E J HENRY continues to reside > at 4 Eaton Rise Ealing, living on private means. She dies in 1918. The > eldest son, Thomas, has become an Architect, Edwin a Physician and > Surgeon, John a Major in the Army, Thomas Roland a Land Agent and the > youngest son Thomas Alexander Stewart HENRY is in the Clergy. Several > leave large personal estates when they die. Clearly income, possibly > from lands still leased out in Ireland subsidised this family's lives. > > > > After all that, can anyone assist me? > > > > Lis > > South Australia > > > > > > > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Cara, I have belonged to the Dublin web site for 12 years and have yet to have a problem with ANYONE . Everyone has been helpful to me in my quest for the Doyle family (as far away as France!) I believe that anything not pertinent to the genealogy should be kept off the list. Our time is precious and I am sure so is Cara's. Thank you for keeping us all on track in our quest. I don't think anyone should be offended if you once in a while remind us what our goal is. Questions should be asked off list pertaining other than genealogy. There is nothing wrong with that. Thanks for all you do and your guidance to keep us on the right path. Sincerely, jean in Florida

Cara I am grateful for all your work and input. I didn't see the nasty email, but would just ask the person to learn some gratitude, manners and consideration for the work and sharing done by you and other members of the family history community. Thank you Cara.

I have been on the list for quite a few years and am very happy with it. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Cara Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:28 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Cc: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com ; irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] A question of listers I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the list, having been accused of doing mass postings Looking for accolades, which may I point out is not and will never be my intentions, so therefore, I am now wondering what this person was actually on about, and am now asking listers are you happy with what I post to the list or would you be quite happy for it to remain with no input and sharing from Myself, or indeed others should they desire to share with us. Feel free to be honest I would not have asked if I had not of wanted to know the outcome. There will be no repercussions on anyone that wishes to make a comment, I am in fact looking to see if there is a need to change the way things have been done in the past on the list. Yours as a lister Cara ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, I must have deleted the original "nasty" email. However, I have to reiterate that Cara is one of the most helpful and insightful list owners around. I have an Irish brick wall to overcome and Cara has always "kept and eye out" for me. I enjoy this list as discussions are informative. I also agree with Edie that some lists are down right "dead", which is unfortunate. I welcome spirited conversation as the camaraderie also breeds communication. Over the years, many list owners have actually limited the conversation that they deem as "off topic". I believe that this has resulted in dying lists. Of course, things can't go too far astray, but most of us are amateur researchers and need the guidance of more experienced folk. Many of us come from areas far from Dublin and profit from those familiar with the area. We are encouraged by the group effort. If I make a mistake or am unclear in my question, I appreciate the help I have gotten from the list and the list owner. Cara...you are the best!!! Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Edie <eamca@bigpond.com> To: irl-dublin <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com>; irl-wicklow <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Cc: irl-wexford <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com>; irl-dublin <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 4:29 am Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] A question of listers I find you very helpful Cara. I am a newbie to Irish genealogy and could do with all of the help I can get. I am just getting into what could be my brickwall of over 40 years broken down. Seems Ireland is the possible place for my 4th Great Grandfathers birth.. Surmise ionly at this stage. I am on a lot of lists as well and one in particular, my maiden surname of Place, seem to be the only poster, along with another chap.. Everyone has the same chance to contribute if they so wish. Thats what these lists are for not to sit and lurk and let just the odd one do all of the work. Though if folk wish to lurk, that is their choice as well but dont complain if somone like yourself wants to be friendly and helpful. Edie McArthur Tasmania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara" <cara_links@bigpond.com> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Cc: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com>; <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 6:28 PM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] A question of listers > I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, > whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the > list, > having been accused of doing mass postings > > Looking for accolades, which may I point out is not and will never be my > intentions, so therefore, > > I am now wondering what this person was actually on about, and am now > asking listers are you happy with what I post to the list or would you be > quite happy for it to remain with no input and sharing from > > Myself, or indeed others should they desire to share with us. > > > > Feel free to be honest I would not have asked if I had not of wanted to > know > the outcome. > > > > There will be no repercussions on anyone that wishes to make a comment, I > am > in fact looking to see if there is a need to change the way things have > been done in the past on the list. > > > > > > Yours as a lister > > Cara > > > > > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning Cara I wondered if I had missed something so had a look at the list archives Nope, nothing there that could be construed as mass postings I have mailed off list separately Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/08/2012 09:28, Cara wrote: > I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, > whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the list, > having been accused of doing mass postings >

Hi, I have just joined the list and am totally new to undertaking research about people born in Ireland. I want to establish the birth, parentage and ancestry, of Thomas Edwin John HENRY (circa 1842 - 1883) and whether an apparent connection with the SHEKLETON surname, and in particular a Mrs Margaret SHEKLETON, is due to a family relationship or some other cause. At this point I don't know where to begin to find the answers to these questions. In the hope it will help I list below what I do know. 1871: Thomas E J HENRY, 4 Eaton Rise Ealing, Middlesex, occupation "Income from Land", b. Ireland. Wife Harriette, children Thomas 5, Margaret S(hekleton) 3, Edwin 2, John 1, and Thomas Roland 9 months, all born in Ireland. Parish records (found on Ancestry.co) all the children born Kingstown, Dublin County, mother's maiden name ARMSTRONG. 1879: The Irish Law Times Reports - In re The Estate of Martin & Others, Owners, - concerning the partition of certain lands held under a lease, originally from a Robert WADDELL to William MARTIN whose interest eventually became vested in Margaret SHEKLETON and James MARTIN as tenants in common, "and afterwards in Thomas E J HENRY, as representing the said Margaret SHEKLETON, and in William Richard MARTIN and Catherine MARTIN, as representatives of the said James MARTIN." By indenture 7 August 1872 Thomas E J HENRY had granted the lands mentioned in the petition (but not identified) to Thomas H ARMSTRONG, William M'CRUM, and Robert Garmony M'CRUM, and to their heirs assigns, upon trusts for the benefit of his wife and children. 1854: Dromore County Down Return of Lands & Houses belonging to Established Church in Ireland - shows a) "Part of Drumnahall Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 30 Aug 1844 Lessee Mrs Margaret SHEKLETON - Perpetuities" b) "Drumnahall Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 27 Feb 1847 Lessee William Henry MARTIN - Perpetuities" c) "Kilscolbane Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 24 June 1848 Mrs HENRY'S Trustees" d) "Kilscolbane Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 22 July 1852 W. H. & J MARTIN" (these last two entries being linked and there being renewal fines associated) e) "Drummeath Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 11 March 1853 Lessee Thomas HENRY'S Executor's - Tithes under Lease" f) "Magheradroll Tithes Baronies of Lower Iveagh & Kinclearty Lease 22 July 1852 Lessee MARTIN & SHEKLETON - Tithes under Lease" and g) "Rectorial Tithes of Dawins Garnaghy Barony of Upper Iveagh Lease 28 March 1854 Lessee Robert MARTIN - Tithes under Lease." >From all that I am assuming that the lands in question in the court case relate to land in County Down, Barony of Lower Iveagh - possibly a) Drumnahall listed above or f) Magheradroll. I have no idea what the land/lease system was at that time in Ireland so don't really understand what the above really meant! 1881: Thomas E. J. HENRY is still at 4 Eaton Rise Ealing recorded born Dublin, Ireland. He dies 23 September 1883 leaving a Will with a Personal Estate of only Five Pounds (?). His wife Harriette is residing elsewhere in Ealing with some the children (others are off in private schools) and recorded born Peterborough Canada. Two children of Thomas and Harriette born after 1871 in England are at home: Florence Stuart HENRY b. 1872 and Thomas Alexander Stewart HENRY b. 1873. So this couple named 3 children Thomas and all children survived! 1891 - 1918: Harriette, Widow of Thomas E J HENRY continues to reside at 4 Eaton Rise Ealing, living on private means. She dies in 1918. The eldest son, Thomas, has become an Architect, Edwin a Physician and Surgeon, John a Major in the Army, Thomas Roland a Land Agent and the youngest son Thomas Alexander Stewart HENRY is in the Clergy. Several leave large personal estates when they die. Clearly income, possibly from lands still leased out in Ireland subsidised this family's lives. After all that, can anyone assist me? Lis South Australia

Cara, I find your 'mass' postings to be helpful and interesting, and often give me ideas that lead to other links. Your focus and intent is obviously to 'dig up' whatever genealogical clues you can find, and you share with the list. You have helped me in the past off list as well. You are a top administrator in that you let the list handle itself, but reel it in when things start to get off track or inappropriate. This is necessary in order to stop flaming or negativity, and you don't let it get out of hand. Personally, I wouldn't want your job as I have been on many lists where the administrator gets lots of off-list posts that are attacking. Keep in mind Cara, that some people's intent is not to be constructive, it is to be destructive to both yourself and to the list. It is easy for us to say 'ignore them', when comments can be cutting. If someone would treat you that way, one has to ask what their true intention is. I would suggest that it is an effort to destroy the list. I have seen it happen several times, and the attacks don't stop until they get the satisfaction of seeing people leave. Then the attacker seems to disappear from the list. Don't let him/her beat you. It's not about you, it's about the attackers need for power. Ban them from the list if they think it is so bad, and their power is diminished. Wendy On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Maureen <maurnie@westnet.com.au> wrote: > Dear Cara, > > As far as I am concerned your efforts are very much appreciated. > > Kind regards > Maureen > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Clara: I have been a list member, for many years, and have truly enjoyed, and learned from, the multitude of emails, that have emanated from this list. I have truly been educated on the history, and genealogy, of Dublin, and its environs. I was very surprised to learn of someone's concerns over mass mailings. I can not think of anything I have received, that would even suggest a mass mailing. Perhaps, this disgruntled, unhappy, and mixed up individual, would prefer to belong to several other lists that I belong to, where I do not receive a posting for months on end . I belong to many genealogy lists, and this list, is by far, the best run, and most informative, of all. Keep up your great work, and don't let any of these loonies, get to you. Jim White Naples, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara" <cara_links@bigpond.com> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Cc: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com>; <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 3:28 AM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] A question of listers > I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, > whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the > list, > having been accused of doing mass postings > > Looking for accolades, which may I point out is not and will never be my > intentions, so therefore, > > I am now wondering what this person was actually on about, and am now > asking listers are you happy with what I post to the list or would you be > quite happy for it to remain with no input and sharing from > > Myself, or indeed others should they desire to share with us. > > > > Feel free to be honest I would not have asked if I had not of wanted to > know > the outcome. > > > > There will be no repercussions on anyone that wishes to make a comment, I > am > in fact looking to see if there is a need to change the way things have > been done in the past on the list. > > > > > > Yours as a lister > > Cara > > > > > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cara, I find this list and your postings extremely helpful so please don't stop what you are doing. If there is anyone who doesn't like the list they can unsubscribe. Simple as that. Perhaps this person was just having a bad day and will reconsider and follow up with an apology. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara" <cara_links@bigpond.com> I am now wondering after re - reading a rather nasty email directed to me, whether you as listers are happy with the postings that I post to the list, having been accused of doing mass postings Looking for accolades, which may I point out is not and will never be my intentions, so therefore, I am now wondering what this person was actually on about, and am now asking listers are you happy with what I post to the list or would you be quite happy for it to remain with no input and sharing from Myself, or indeed others should they desire to share with us. Feel free to be honest I would not have asked if I had not of wanted to know the outcome. There will be no repercussions on anyone that wishes to make a comment, I am in fact looking to see if there is a need to change the way things have been done in the past on the list. Yours as a lister Cara

Hi Lis See record: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/92e2b30581438 Shows Thomas Henry marriage to Shekleton. Hilda On 1 Lún 2012, at 18:20, "Lis Warwood" <lwarwood@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have just joined the list and am totally new to undertaking research about > people born in Ireland. I want to establish the birth, parentage and > ancestry, of Thomas Edwin John HENRY (circa 1842 - 1883) and whether an > apparent connection with the SHEKLETON surname, and in particular a Mrs > Margaret SHEKLETON, is due to a family relationship or some other cause. At > this point I don't know where to begin to find the answers to these > questions. In the hope it will help I list below what I do know. > > > > 1871: Thomas E J HENRY, 4 Eaton Rise Ealing, Middlesex, occupation > "Income from Land", b. Ireland. Wife Harriette, children Thomas 5, Margaret > S(hekleton) 3, Edwin 2, John 1, and Thomas Roland 9 months, all born in > Ireland. Parish records (found on Ancestry.co) all the children born > Kingstown, Dublin County, mother's maiden name ARMSTRONG. > > > > 1879: The Irish Law Times Reports - In re The Estate of Martin & Others, > Owners, - concerning the partition of certain lands held under a lease, > originally from a Robert WADDELL to William MARTIN whose interest eventually > became vested in Margaret SHEKLETON and James MARTIN as tenants in common, > "and afterwards in Thomas E J HENRY, as representing the said Margaret > SHEKLETON, and in William Richard MARTIN and Catherine MARTIN, as > representatives of the said James MARTIN." By indenture 7 August 1872 > Thomas E J HENRY had granted the lands mentioned in the petition (but not > identified) to Thomas H ARMSTRONG, William M'CRUM, and Robert Garmony > M'CRUM, and to their heirs assigns, upon trusts for the benefit of his wife > and children. > > > > 1854: Dromore County Down Return of Lands & Houses belonging to Established > Church in Ireland - shows a) "Part of Drumnahall Barony of Lower Iveagh > Lease 30 Aug 1844 Lessee Mrs Margaret SHEKLETON - Perpetuities" b) > "Drumnahall Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 27 Feb 1847 Lessee William Henry > MARTIN - Perpetuities" c) "Kilscolbane Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 24 June > 1848 Mrs HENRY'S Trustees" d) "Kilscolbane Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease 22 > July 1852 W. H. & J MARTIN" (these last two entries being linked and there > being renewal fines associated) e) "Drummeath Barony of Lower Iveagh Lease > 11 March 1853 Lessee Thomas HENRY'S Executor's - Tithes under Lease" f) > "Magheradroll Tithes Baronies of Lower Iveagh & Kinclearty Lease 22 July > 1852 Lessee MARTIN & SHEKLETON - Tithes under Lease" and g) "Rectorial > Tithes of Dawins Garnaghy Barony of Upper Iveagh Lease 28 March 1854 Lessee > Robert MARTIN - Tithes under Lease." > > > >> From all that I am assuming that the lands in question in the court case > relate to land in County Down, Barony of Lower Iveagh - possibly a) > Drumnahall listed above or f) Magheradroll. I have no idea what the > land/lease system was at that time in Ireland so don't really understand > what the above really meant! > > > > 1881: Thomas E. J. HENRY is still at 4 Eaton Rise Ealing recorded born > Dublin, Ireland. He dies 23 September 1883 leaving a Will with a Personal > Estate of only Five Pounds (?). His wife Harriette is residing elsewhere in > Ealing with some the children (others are off in private schools) and > recorded born Peterborough Canada. Two children of Thomas and Harriette born > after 1871 in England are at home: Florence Stuart HENRY b. 1872 and Thomas > Alexander Stewart HENRY b. 1873. So this couple named 3 children Thomas and > all children survived! > > > > 1891 - 1918: Harriette, Widow of Thomas E J HENRY continues to reside at 4 > Eaton Rise Ealing, living on private means. She dies in 1918. The eldest > son, Thomas, has become an Architect, Edwin a Physician and Surgeon, John a > Major in the Army, Thomas Roland a Land Agent and the youngest son Thomas > Alexander Stewart HENRY is in the Clergy. Several leave large personal > estates when they die. Clearly income, possibly from lands still leased out > in Ireland subsidised this family's lives. > > > > After all that, can anyone assist me? > > > > Lis > > South Australia > > > > > > > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maurice or Morris Dunn Tried on 25 March 1824 Dublin Indicted and found guilty of stealing lead Sentenced to be transported for seven years Maurice's occupation was a gardener Arrived on board the Ann & Amelia on 2 Jan; 1825 from Cork During the voyage Dunn received twenty-five lashes for insubordination. In 1828 he was assigned to John Street at Bathurst. He received a Certificate of Freedom on 26 March 1831 that gave his full decryption. On 14 Nov; 1832 his ticket was cancelled on the instruction from the Bathurst Bench. David Sullivan Tried on 18 March 1833 in Cork City Details of his crime have not been found Sentenced to be transported for seven years. Arrived on board the Java on 18 Nov; 1833 from Cork City In 1837 he was assigned to John Street at Bathurst. He was issued a Ticket of Leave 8 April 1838 and allowed to remain in the District of Bathurst Edward Sheehan Tried on 3 Oct;1823 Limerick Details of crime have not been found Sentenced to be transported for seven years. Arrived on board the Prince Regent 1(2) on the 15 July 1824 from Cork On his arrival in the colony Sheehan was first assigned to Robert Lethbridge at Prospect NSW. By 1828 he was assigned to John Street at Bathurst. He was issued a Ticket of leave on 24 March 1829 and allowed to remain in the District of Bathurst The End