Alan If I remember my Latin correct "JACOBUM" is the accusative case. ie the Object case Still I know I will be corrected if I am Wrong, its such a LONG LONG time since I did Latin Regards Peter Collins ----- Original Message ----- From: " Alan Swindale" <ajs@fivenine.co.uk> To: <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Jacobum vs Jacobi > Latin has different forms of the same noun for the nominative (subject) > and > genitive (possessive). Thus 'James, son of James' would be Jacobus, filius > Jacobi'. I am puzzled by 'Jacobum', a neuter form - not normally very good

Thanks for your thoughts, Alan, what you suggest makes sense to me. And I'm glad that someone else agrees that I have reason, barring future contradictions, to believe all these Hawkins people were in the same family. The real treasure was Mary's surname, Moran. I had no idea what her surname might be until I found the baptismal record for her son Petrus. So, Oh Goody, now I have still another line to chase down the genealogical rabbit hole. Thanks again. PJ > Latin has different forms of the same noun for the nominative (subject) > and > genitive (possessive). Thus 'James, son of James' would be Jacobus, filius > Jacobi'.

Latin has different forms of the same noun for the nominative (subject) and genitive (possessive). Thus 'James, son of James' would be Jacobus, filius Jacobi'. I am puzzled by 'Jacobum', a neuter form - not normally very good for producing children! Formally this should be the accusative (object) form of Jacobus, as in 'Mary marries James' but many priests' latin was even worse than mine! I do not believe you can tell the difference in the latin form between Jacob and James. An individual parish priest or parish clerk may have decided to adopt a convention that Jacobus=James and Jacobum=Jacob - but the father's name should be given as Jacobi in both cases! I think your assumption that James Hawkins and Mary are the same as the earlier Jacobi Hawkins and Maria is perfectly justified. Alan of Durham > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pjsalis@hal-pc.org > Sent: 09 August 2012 16:57 > To: Dublin list > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Latin forenames, tracing lines, & reading old > documents > > Hello All, > > Many of the results I've found at > http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ contain Latin > forenames. > > This Latin-to-English list has been helpful in translating the Latin > forenames: > http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/images/Latin%20Forenames%203. > pdf > > > I'm researching a James Hawkins, who with his wife Mary ?Moran? may > have been the parents of the Catherine Hawkins who married Gardiner > Curtis in the first half of the 1800's. I've found nine baptismal > records between > 1810 and 1840 for what seem to be the children of James and Mary. > > 1810-1821 RC St. Andrew in Dublin; children Mariam Helenum, Catherinam > (bap. 1813), Mariam, Gulielmum, Jacobum, Joannem Joseph; parents Jacobi > Hawkins & Maria ___ > 1831 RC Sandyford; child Petrus; parents Jacobi Hawkins & Maria ___ > 1839 RC Rathmines, child Maria; parents Jacobi Hawkins & Mariae Moran > 1840 RC SS Michael & John in Dublin; child Willm*; parents James > Hawkins and Mary ___ > > The Forenames pdf list has these entries: > JACOBA = JAMES > JACOBI = JACOB > JACOBUM = JACOB > JACOBUS = JAMES > JOCOBUM = JACOB > A quick online check of the names Jacob and James suggests that they > derived from the same Hebrew name, which may have meant "holder of the > heel" or "supplanter." > > What do you think? Is there any argument against my assuming that the > 1840 James Hawkins and Mary ___ are the same as the earlier Jacobi > Hawkins and Maria ___ or Mariae Moran? > > Also, why in the same document would the child be named Jacobum and the > father be Jacobi? The church-register image is not yet available, so I > can't check for a transcription error. I looked at the image for the > 1839 case in which the child was named Maria and the mother was Mariae, > but I couldn't read the writing well enough to tell whether the Mariae > was a correct transcription. > > * This site > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/where_to_start.htm > explains abbreviations used in old documents, as well as many other > challenges to reading and understanding the documents. > > Thanks for any and all thoughts. > > PJ > > > > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

As a matter of interest and intrigue, how do you know he worked all his working life in Dublin, seeing as he was a school teacher would this not have had him moving around a wee bit, even before marriage. Wentworth is a name linked to Fitzwilliams I am trying to delve way back in the back of my head on this ............and the name Luke although you say it is a cornwall name which it is , is also linked to Avoca in Wicklow, with the marriage of Higgins to Luke.........surnames used here. I duly noted that Frederick Wentworth Wade was also indexed as Frederick Winbrook, makes you double check some of these transcriptions doesn't it ? Cara -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Vada Gibb Sent: 06 August 2012 08:15 To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] WADE family of Dublin, GIBBONS, CLELAND, MACCULLAGH,LUKES, HOUGHTON Cara has invited us to write about our Dublin ancestor. I hope this is not too long. My GGGF Robert Wentworth WADE, a schoolteacher, was born in 1793 and died in 1870 in Dublin. I still haven't discovered his parentage. He married Anne GIBBONS about 1828 - record not yet found. Both were COI and almost all the children were baptised in St Catherine. They presumably lived as tenants in inner Dublin as their address changed often but was always close to St. Catherine. Robert and Annie had 10 children between 1829 and 1848. Two died very young but nearly all the others seem to have lived to their seventies. For the longest time I thought there were only two children, brothers Frederick and Robert who both came to New Zealand (one at least went to Australia first). Both had Wentworth as a middle name, as had several grandchildren. Other siblings were not so identified. Frederick now has 39 descendants in Australia and NZ, including me. The wonderful genealogy.ie finally gave me all but one of Robert and Annie's children, plus the marriages of some of them. I discovered that some of the children and grandchildren of the Dublin schoolmaster had became doctors (3), Army generals, Mayors, teachers and a barrister. When browsing ancestry.com I discovered another daughter Annie who was married in Ontario (to John LUKES, from Cornwall). then I discovered that one of her sisters Harriet and her Irish husband William CLELAND, married in Dublin in 1868, had also moved to Ontario - to the same town. Another daughter Emily married Robert MACCULLAGH in 1862 in Dublin. I suspect this Robert was a soldier but have not been able to find them anywhere yet. Descendants of Robert and Annie's son George Augustus Wade left Ireland and are now scattered around England. Identifying his family gave me some headaches. He had a son with the same name plus another son named Ernest Wentworth Wade, who in turn had a son named Ernest Wentworth Wade, and within this family there were also two Alice Mary Wades. I also discovered lots of other George Augustuses mainly in England, presumably named after the king. The earlier Alice Mary (1866-1905) was one of the first women graduates of the Royal University of Ireland. Predictably she became a teacher. I've still got lots of questions. 1. First and foremost of course is Robert's parentage. Also his wife's. And where were they married? It may have been outside Co. Dublin. The middle name Wentworth should provide a clue but so far hasn't. One of NZ Frederick's biographers said he was born at "Clonabraney", the Wade country seat in Meath. Another said he came from Westmeath. I have been unable to link Robert Wentworth Wade to the Clonebraney Wades. 2. How did one become a schoolmaster in those days? Was the system similar to England where promising children aged 14 or so became "student teachers" (I have one English GGGF who went on to become a headmaster). I haven't been able to find any records. 3. The last daughter Annie had the middle name HOUGHTON/HAUGHTON according to Ontario records. I have been unable to find any Houghton/Wade/Gibbons marriages in Dublin. Annie's mother's name was given as Annie Houghton, which I suspect is a typo or wrong entry. Her father's full name was given in the original record. I can't quite reconcile Gibbons with Houghton phonetically. All suggestions very welcome!! (And Nivard, at last I have discovered a Cornish link (even if only through marriage) via John Lukes!!) Nancy in NZ Would you all like to write something about your Dublin Ancestor and post > > to the list, perhaps a broader picture of the persons you are looking for, > may create a new idea on where to look. > > Simply be nice and make it all about the Irish content part, but do not > hesitate to tell us where they went to, where they died, did some stay in > Ireland, what did they become in their Lands, did they follow on in the work force of what they had learnt in > Ireland? Nancy ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5180 - Release Date: 08/05/12

Hello All, Many of the results I've found at http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ contain Latin forenames. This Latin-to-English list has been helpful in translating the Latin forenames: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/images/Latin%20Forenames%203.pdf I'm researching a James Hawkins, who with his wife Mary ?Moran? may have been the parents of the Catherine Hawkins who married Gardiner Curtis in the first half of the 1800's. I've found nine baptismal records between 1810 and 1840 for what seem to be the children of James and Mary. 1810-1821 RC St. Andrew in Dublin; children Mariam Helenum, Catherinam (bap. 1813), Mariam, Gulielmum, Jacobum, Joannem Joseph; parents Jacobi Hawkins & Maria ___ 1831 RC Sandyford; child Petrus; parents Jacobi Hawkins & Maria ___ 1839 RC Rathmines, child Maria; parents Jacobi Hawkins & Mariae Moran 1840 RC SS Michael & John in Dublin; child Willm*; parents James Hawkins and Mary ___ The Forenames pdf list has these entries: JACOBA = JAMES JACOBI = JACOB JACOBUM = JACOB JACOBUS = JAMES JOCOBUM = JACOB A quick online check of the names Jacob and James suggests that they derived from the same Hebrew name, which may have meant "holder of the heel" or "supplanter." What do you think? Is there any argument against my assuming that the 1840 James Hawkins and Mary ___ are the same as the earlier Jacobi Hawkins and Maria ___ or Mariae Moran? Also, why in the same document would the child be named Jacobum and the father be Jacobi? The church-register image is not yet available, so I can't check for a transcription error. I looked at the image for the 1839 case in which the child was named Maria and the mother was Mariae, but I couldn't read the writing well enough to tell whether the Mariae was a correct transcription. * This site http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/where_to_start.htm explains abbreviations used in old documents, as well as many other challenges to reading and understanding the documents. Thanks for any and all thoughts. PJ

Sorry, In my previous message I referred to a 4-Euro photocopy of a certificate. That is the cost of an additional copy. The cost of the initial copy is 6 Euro. PJ ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Meaning of terms on GRO request for death cert From: pjsalis@hal-pc.org Date: Wed, August 8, 2012 6:37 pm To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Hilda, Being an impatient Type A, I had already mailed the GRO form requesting two 10-Euro full long forms, which I found at this site http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm "Full (Long Form) This is a full copy of the registered entry and can be used for most legal and administrative purposes. €10.00" After reading your message, I went back to the form's instructions and saw this note: "Note 2 Photocopies of entries in the registers are also available at a cost of €6.00, (additional copies - €4.00). These contain exactly the same information as a Certificate but are only of use for research purposes." So you told me that this 4-Euro form is acceptable for our purposes. Thanks for that info. I also like your practice of attaching a copy of the familysearch result (and in my case, Ancesty result) with your request. PJ

Thanks, Hilda, Being an impatient Type A, I had already mailed the GRO form requesting two 10-Euro full long forms, which I found at this site http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm "Full (Long Form) This is a full copy of the registered entry and can be used for most legal and administrative purposes. €10.00" After reading your message, I went back to the form's instructions and saw this note: "Note 2 Photocopies of entries in the registers are also available at a cost of €6.00, (additional copies - €4.00). These contain exactly the same information as a Certificate but are only of use for research purposes." So you told me that this 4-Euro form is acceptable for our purposes. Thanks for that info. I also like your practice of attaching a copy of the familysearch result (and in my case, Ancesty result) with your request. PJ > Hi PJ! > I think you're filling out the forms for complete legal certs which cost > about €15, when all you need are genealogical copies at €6 a piece. > As far as I know the PPS # is akin to your US SSN. No idea what civil > status means. > > You don't need to fill out forms for genealogical copies. Just request > them either by fax or via the postal service, giving as much information > as you have. I always include a copy & paste version of the record index > from family search - which includes names as found on the record, & volume > & page number. > > Best of luck Pat! > Hilda > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Bill. I have searched some Wentworth families without success. I hadn't thought of the custom you mention, so thanks for drawing it to my attention. Nancy > Nancy, you might care to consider whether the family had any > connections with the Wentworth estates, mostly in Wicklow (as well as > England). If not a family connection, it was not unheard of to honour > an employer or landlord by adding that name.

Wonderfully informative! I have an American family living in Memphis Tenn who lost 6 members during the fall of 188? and when I looked up the death records there was page after page of "Yellow Fever", I didn't realize there was some immunity from yellow fever! My American family were Yankees and Yellow Fever didn't hit the north so much - although Philadelphia had epidemics frequently. Thank you Janet for this. Eliz On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > No wonder the New Orleans list of the Irish dead was so big... > > "New research by University of Warwick historian Dr Tim Lockley has > found why yellow fever had a green bias [Irish] in 19th century fever > outbreaks in the southern states of the US. Almost half of the 650 > people killed by yellow fever in Savannah Georgia in 1854 were Irish > immigrants." > > Read more at > > http://tinyurl.com/bo9ubq2 > > You escape the Famine and finally go to the US and then end up at the > wrong port. > > Janet > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No wonder the New Orleans list of the Irish dead was so big... "New research by University of Warwick historian Dr Tim Lockley has found why yellow fever had a green bias [Irish] in 19th century fever outbreaks in the southern states of the US. Almost half of the 650 people killed by yellow fever in Savannah Georgia in 1854 were Irish immigrants." Read more at http://tinyurl.com/bo9ubq2 You escape the Famine and finally go to the US and then end up at the wrong port. Janet

Hi PJ! I think you're filling out the forms for complete legal certs which cost about €15, when all you need are genealogical copies at €6 a piece. As far as I know the PPS # is akin to your US SSN. No idea what civil status means. You don't need to fill out forms for genealogical copies. Just request them either by fax or via the postal service, giving as much information as you have. I always include a copy & paste version of the record index from family search - which includes names as found on the record, & volume & page number. Best of luck Pat! Hilda

Nancy, you might care to consider whether the family had any connections with the Wentworth estates, mostly in Wicklow (as well as England). If not a family connection, it was not unheard of to honour an employer or landlord by adding that name. You could try the Wicklow list, where Cara also supervises. Bill On Mon 06/08/12 8:14 AM , Nancy Vada Gibb ciotach@clear.net.nz sent: Cara has invited us to write about our Dublin ancestor. I hope this is not too long. My GGGF Robert Wentworth WADE, a schoolteacher, was born in 1793 and died in 1870 in Dublin. I still haven't discovered his parentage. He married Anne GIBBONS about 1828 - record not yet found. Both were COI and almost all the children were baptised in St Catherine. They presumably lived as tenants in inner Dublin as their address changed often but was always close to St. Catherine. Robert and Annie had 10 children between 1829 and 1848. Two died very young but nearly all the others seem to have lived to their seventies. For the longest time I thought there were only two children, brothers Frederick and Robert who both came to New Zealand (one at least went to Australia first). Both had Wentworth as a middle name, as had several grandchildren. Other siblings were not so identified. Frederick now has 39 descendants in Australia and NZ, including me. The wonderful genealogy.ie finally gave me all but one of Robert and Annie's children, plus the marriages of some of them. I discovered that some of the children and grandchildren of the Dublin schoolmaster had became doctors (3), Army generals, Mayors, teachers and a barrister. When browsing ancestry.com I discovered another daughter Annie who was married in Ontario (to John LUKES, from Cornwall). then I discovered that one of her sisters Harriet and her Irish husband William CLELAND, married in Dublin in 1868, had also moved to Ontario - to the same town. Another daughter Emily married Robert MACCULLAGH in 1862 in Dublin. I suspect this Robert was a soldier but have not been able to find them anywhere yet. Descendants of Robert and Annie's son George Augustus Wade left Ireland and are now scattered around England. Identifying his family gave me some headaches. He had a son with the same name plus another son named Ernest Wentworth Wade, who in turn had a son named Ernest Wentworth Wade, and within this family there were also two Alice Mary Wades. I also discovered lots of other George Augustuses mainly in England, presumably named after the king. The earlier Alice Mary (1866-1905) was one of the first women graduates of the Royal University of Ireland. Predictably she became a teacher. I've still got lots of questions. 1. First and foremost of course is Robert's parentage. Also his wife's. And where were they married? It may have been outside Co. Dublin. The middle name Wentworth should provide a clue but so far hasn't. One of NZ Frederick's biographers said he was born at "Clonabraney", the Wade country seat in Meath. Another said he came from Westmeath. I have been unable to link Robert Wentworth Wade to the Clonebraney Wades. 2. How did one become a schoolmaster in those days? Was the system similar to England where promising children aged 14 or so became "student teachers" (I have one English GGGF who went on to become a headmaster). I haven't been able to find any records. 3. The last daughter Annie had the middle name HOUGHTON/HAUGHTON according to Ontario records. I have been unable to find any Houghton/Wade/Gibbons marriages in Dublin. Annie's mother's name was given as Annie Houghton, which I suspect is a typo or wrong entry. Her father's full name was given in the original record. I can't quite reconcile Gibbons with Houghton phonetically. All suggestions very welcome!! (And Nivard, at last I have discovered a Cornish link (even if only through marriage) via John Lukes!!) Nancy in NZ Would you all like to write something about your Dublin Ancestor and post > > to the list, perhaps a broader picture of the persons you are looking for, > may create a new idea on where to look. > > Simply be nice and make it all about the Irish content part, but do not > hesitate to tell us where they went to, where they died, did some stay in > Ireland, what did they become in their Lands, did they follow on in the work force of what they had learnt in > Ireland? Nancy ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Whilst doing some Lunatic papers for another county I noted these names for the Dublin Council 29/11/1867 1- A Brewster -C (Mayo) 2- Samuel Meath 3-Fred Shaw 4-R Keatinge 5-R Deasy 6- Thomas O'Hagan 7-W H F Cogan 8-John E Walsh 9-John George 10-Michael Morris 11-Hedges Eyre Chatterton 12-Robert R Warren Passing them on they may be of interest to someone And on the 17/1/1868 same council same paperwork add in these additional names 1-Richard C.Dublin 2-Maziere Brady 3-James H Monaghan 4- John Hatchell 5-J D Fitzgerald Cheers C

Hello list, I'm completing an Application for Death Certificate to mail to the GRO. Two terms I don't know the meaning of: PPS Number -- does this maybe refer to the Volume and Page numbers in the Civil Registration Indexes, which are given in the Ancestry death-search results? Civil Status -- does this mean marital status, or something else? Thanks. PJ

Cara has invited us to write about our Dublin ancestor. I hope this is not too long. My GGGF Robert Wentworth WADE, a schoolteacher, was born in 1793 and died in 1870 in Dublin. I still haven't discovered his parentage. He married Anne GIBBONS about 1828 - record not yet found. Both were COI and almost all the children were baptised in St Catherine. They presumably lived as tenants in inner Dublin as their address changed often but was always close to St. Catherine. Robert and Annie had 10 children between 1829 and 1848. Two died very young but nearly all the others seem to have lived to their seventies. For the longest time I thought there were only two children, brothers Frederick and Robert who both came to New Zealand (one at least went to Australia first). Both had Wentworth as a middle name, as had several grandchildren. Other siblings were not so identified. Frederick now has 39 descendants in Australia and NZ, including me. The wonderful genealogy.ie finally gave me all but one of Robert and Annie's children, plus the marriages of some of them. I discovered that some of the children and grandchildren of the Dublin schoolmaster had became doctors (3), Army generals, Mayors, teachers and a barrister. When browsing ancestry.com I discovered another daughter Annie who was married in Ontario (to John LUKES, from Cornwall). then I discovered that one of her sisters Harriet and her Irish husband William CLELAND, married in Dublin in 1868, had also moved to Ontario - to the same town. Another daughter Emily married Robert MACCULLAGH in 1862 in Dublin. I suspect this Robert was a soldier but have not been able to find them anywhere yet. Descendants of Robert and Annie's son George Augustus Wade left Ireland and are now scattered around England. Identifying his family gave me some headaches. He had a son with the same name plus another son named Ernest Wentworth Wade, who in turn had a son named Ernest Wentworth Wade, and within this family there were also two Alice Mary Wades. I also discovered lots of other George Augustuses mainly in England, presumably named after the king. The earlier Alice Mary (1866-1905) was one of the first women graduates of the Royal University of Ireland. Predictably she became a teacher. I've still got lots of questions. 1. First and foremost of course is Robert's parentage. Also his wife's. And where were they married? It may have been outside Co. Dublin. The middle name Wentworth should provide a clue but so far hasn't. One of NZ Frederick's biographers said he was born at "Clonabraney", the Wade country seat in Meath. Another said he came from Westmeath. I have been unable to link Robert Wentworth Wade to the Clonebraney Wades. 2. How did one become a schoolmaster in those days? Was the system similar to England where promising children aged 14 or so became "student teachers" (I have one English GGGF who went on to become a headmaster). I haven't been able to find any records. 3. The last daughter Annie had the middle name HOUGHTON/HAUGHTON according to Ontario records. I have been unable to find any Houghton/Wade/Gibbons marriages in Dublin. Annie's mother's name was given as Annie Houghton, which I suspect is a typo or wrong entry. Her father's full name was given in the original record. I can't quite reconcile Gibbons with Houghton phonetically. All suggestions very welcome!! (And Nivard, at last I have discovered a Cornish link (even if only through marriage) via John Lukes!!) Nancy in NZ Would you all like to write something about your Dublin Ancestor and post > > to the list, perhaps a broader picture of the persons you are looking for, > may create a new idea on where to look. > > Simply be nice and make it all about the Irish content part, but do not > hesitate to tell us where they went to, where they died, did some stay in > Ireland, what did they become in their Lands, did they follow on in the work force of what they had learnt in > Ireland? Nancy

> You can fax the order & include an email address & they'll email u the phone number for credit card details. You don't have to fax the details. Hilda

Hi I have ordered several, you can only do it my mail or fax. I just dont like using my credit card on a fax machine. i usually get the cert within a week. I usually do several requests at one time. good luck. lindsey On 8/4/12, pjsalis@hal-pc.org <pjsalis@hal-pc.org> wrote: > > Hello, > > The Health Service Executive site offers online ordering of death certs > from 1922 to the present. I can't find anyplace to make an online order > of 1897 (Jan-Mar) and 1902 (Oct-Dec) certs. > > Does one exist, or must I order by regular mail? > > Thanks. > > PJ > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Collette, Thank you for taking the time to send me that link, unfortunately whenever I try to use it I get an error message - church records not available. Can you tell me another way to access that information? Lis -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of colette o rorke Sent: Friday, 3 August 2012 9:51 AM To: dublin tracing your roots Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] re Thomas Edwin John HENRY of Kingstown This link takes you to the baptisms of 4 children of Thomas Henry & Harriett Henry between 1838 and 1841 in Dublin city http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search. Colette ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, The Health Service Executive site offers online ordering of death certs from 1922 to the present. I can't find anyplace to make an online order of 1897 (Jan-Mar) and 1902 (Oct-Dec) certs. Does one exist, or must I order by regular mail? Thanks. PJ

Try http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/08/2012 01:52, Lis Warwood wrote: > Hi Collette, > > Thank you for taking the time to send me that link, unfortunately whenever I > try to use it I get an error message - church records not available. Can you > tell me another way to access that information? > > Lis