In reply to this comment from Cara ... "Sorry but in fact I do have to ask why would they have him baptised Catholic and buried Church of Ireland?" My 3 Kennedy children - all born in the James Street, Dublin area in the 1880's, but died very young - were baptised at St. James RC Church, but buried across the road in the St. James COI graveyard. I got their burial info from the RCB. Colette

Hi CaraThanks for your prompt email. That is quite disturbing to know the remains of those buried in St Peters graveyard were placed in plastic bags and stored in St Luke's Crypt. How awful and how very sad. I wondered about Daniel being baptised Catholic and buried in COI too. I did know there were no burial records for St Andrews. I am looking for the burial details to establish if in fact the baby is my Daniel McAllister. I feel it is, as I know the parents were married in St Andrew Catholic Church in 1839 and their 3 sons, John, William and Daniel were all baptised in St Andrew's. However, there being no graveyard attached to St Andrew's, I feel they had him buried in the COI graveyard of St Peters. I think the mother Julia was not Catholic as well and that could be another reason for the COI burial. On the burial info I found, it said the child was from French Street, Dublin (now renamed Mercer Street and would you believe my surname is Mercer, strange coincidence!) which is in fairly close proximity to the parish of St Andrew's which makes me think they are one and the same child. I will google as you suggest.Thank you again.RegardsMaria > From: cara_links@bigpond.com > To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:13:16 +1100 > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] BURIAL OF DANIEL MCALLISTER 1843 > > Church of Ireland you should contact the RCB Representative church Body > they hold the most extent records for the Church of Ireland records a > Google search will turn you up a current email address > > > > There are no burial records for St Andrews. > > Sorry but in fact I do have to ask why would they have him baptised > Catholic and buried Church of Ireland ? > > And don't believe all you read about the bodies being moved to Mt Jerome, > Because in the year 2000 the remains had been removed and were being held > in plastic bags in St Luke's Crypt, ( the local clergy man supplying this > information) then when I queried if they had been returned to the ground > in 2006 the answer was No. Never asked again, my feeling was that they would > never be re-interred. > > > Sorry > Cara > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maria Mercer > Sent: 27 October 2012 14:56 > To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] BURIAL OF DANIEL MCALLISTER 1843 > > > > > > Hello group, Looking for information on the burial of baby Daniel McAllister > burial date is 13 August 1843 at St Peters COI Aungier Street, Dublin at age > 6 months of French Street, Dublin . > > I believe this Daniel McAllister is the same child born in 1843 to Daniel > and Julia McAllister who had him baptised in St Andrew's Catholic Church, > Dublin also in 1843, but no date of baptism/birth listed. I believe St > Peters COI church and the graveyard at the church no longer exists according > to recent research which states the site of St Peters is now the YMCA > building in Dublin. I also discovered that those buried in the graveyard of > St Peters were move to Mt Jerome Cemetery. I have contacted Mt Jerome > Cemetery to ask if they hold the burial registers from St Peters and > apparently they do not. Any assistance or suggestion where to look further > with my search for burial records for this baby boy would be very much > appreciated. Many thanksMaria MercerBrisbane, Australia > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: 10/26/12 > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Church of Ireland you should contact the RCB Representative church Body they hold the most extent records for the Church of Ireland records a Google search will turn you up a current email address There are no burial records for St Andrews. Sorry but in fact I do have to ask why would they have him baptised Catholic and buried Church of Ireland ? And don't believe all you read about the bodies being moved to Mt Jerome, Because in the year 2000 the remains had been removed and were being held in plastic bags in St Luke's Crypt, ( the local clergy man supplying this information) then when I queried if they had been returned to the ground in 2006 the answer was No. Never asked again, my feeling was that they would never be re-interred. Sorry Cara -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maria Mercer Sent: 27 October 2012 14:56 To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] BURIAL OF DANIEL MCALLISTER 1843 Hello group, Looking for information on the burial of baby Daniel McAllister burial date is 13 August 1843 at St Peters COI Aungier Street, Dublin at age 6 months of French Street, Dublin . I believe this Daniel McAllister is the same child born in 1843 to Daniel and Julia McAllister who had him baptised in St Andrew's Catholic Church, Dublin also in 1843, but no date of baptism/birth listed. I believe St Peters COI church and the graveyard at the church no longer exists according to recent research which states the site of St Peters is now the YMCA building in Dublin. I also discovered that those buried in the graveyard of St Peters were move to Mt Jerome Cemetery. I have contacted Mt Jerome Cemetery to ask if they hold the burial registers from St Peters and apparently they do not. Any assistance or suggestion where to look further with my search for burial records for this baby boy would be very much appreciated. Many thanksMaria MercerBrisbane, Australia ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: 10/26/12

Hello group, Looking for information on the burial of baby Daniel McAllister burial date is 13 August 1843 at St Peters COI Aungier Street, Dublin at age 6 months of French Street, Dublin . I believe this Daniel McAllister is the same child born in 1843 to Daniel and Julia McAllister who had him baptised in St Andrew's Catholic Church, Dublin also in 1843, but no date of baptism/birth listed. I believe St Peters COI church and the graveyard at the church no longer exists according to recent research which states the site of St Peters is now the YMCA building in Dublin. I also discovered that those buried in the graveyard of St Peters were move to Mt Jerome Cemetery. I have contacted Mt Jerome Cemetery to ask if they hold the burial registers from St Peters and apparently they do not. Any assistance or suggestion where to look further with my search for burial records for this baby boy would be very much appreciated. Many thanksMaria MercerBrisbane, Australia

TNX, much appreciated, I see under add'l info that he was a servant and marrried at the time, so will have some Dick Tracey work to do. Did google and Wikipedia too......... PS: One of My ancestral lines John Sinnott moved from Dublin to Killybegs in Co. Donegal before eventually leaving for Phila. PA and other parts of the States including Mass. Georgia and New Orleans,La. Returning to list as there are other Sinnott researchers that may find this interesting, I sure did.........Edd the only reference to Coninbeg Lightfloat which apparently is more a house boat at the location in the Kilmore Quay area rather than a ship as I originally thought from the description. Returning to list as there are other Sinnott researchers that may find interesting, I sure did Amazingly I found a photo of this Lighthouse ship too in a book called Lightships at Dun Laoghaire (Kingstown) Harbour ; I picked up this rather fine postcard on eBay this morning for just ?5.76 including p+p. The artist "Jotter", real name Walter Hayward-Young (1868-1920) was long dead when this card was posted to America in 1946. I'm not sure of the year that original was painted and, of course, the name of the lightship station on the side of each vessel is only of slight help in identifying their actual names. Once it arrives I'll get a digital copy made - minus the postmark - and it will be just the job. !!!!! at http://insatiablecollector.wordpress.com/ 1) 4.2.1963: On passage Fleetwood-Cork had engine trouble(?) off Coninbeg Light-vessel and put in to Rosslare, Co. Wexford. 6.2.1963: Broke adrift and driven ashore on the Rosslare Strand, 5 miles north-east of Rosslare Light. Eight crew taken off. 2) Kilmore Quay has an excellent reputation as a sport-angling centre. Diving is popular around the Coninbeg Rocks. The Saltee Islands is a famous Bird Sanctuary. The Islands cliffs support eleven species of breeding seabirds in summer time. Many species of migratory birds pass through here in the Spring and Autumn. Island Trips operate from the Quayside. 3) Work in progress The busy schedule of maintenance, refurbishment, and replacement of obsolete systems continues. Site works on the rebuilding project at Dun Laoghaire are set to commence in January 2006. The conversion of Rockabill from diesel generator power to photovoltaic power is in progress, taking account of the fact that Rockabill is a protected structure and a Special Protection Area under the Birds Directive, under which the island is designated as a Refuge for Fauna and a European Site. The replacement of the Coninbeg Lightfloat with a superbuoy and adjacent fixed structure is at the planning stage, while equipment is being purchased for a major upgrade of equipment at Chaine Tower. Refurbishment projects are in progress at Ballinacourty, Eeragh, Fastnet Rock, and Dunmore East. Storm damage repairs, routine and breakdown maintenance, painting, and building operations continue to be carried out to ensure that the Commissioners not only meet IALA availability targets but also ensure that our structures, buildings, and heritage are maintained in a cost effective and efficient manner. PS: One of My ancestral lines John Sinnott moved from Dublin to Killybegs in Co. Donegal before eventually leaving for Phila. PA and other parts of the States including Mass. Georgia and New Orleans,La..........Edd ----- Original Message ----- From: <pjsalis@hal-pc.org> To: "Edd" <edd73@embarqmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Sinnott in 1901 Co. Wexford census Edd, I was looking for my John Carey, lightship sailor, and found a Richard Sinnott in this 1901 census enumeration for Kilmore, Co. Wexford, at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Kilmore/The_Coninbeg_Light_Ship/1806912/ >From the little I've read, the Coninbeg had a storied history. Google it to see. *** Residents of a house ship in The Coninbeg Light Ship (Kilmore, Wexford) Surname / Forename / Age / Sex / Relation to head / Religion / Birthplace / Occupation / Literacy / Irish Language / Marital Status / Specified Illnesses Wall / Alfred B / - / - / - / - / - / - / - / - / - / - Wall / Alfred B / 50 / Male / Head of Family / Roman Catholic / Co Limerick / Master Mariner / Read and write / - / Married / - Sinnott / Richard / 55 / Male / Servant / Roman Catholic / Co Wexford / Lamp Lighter / Read and write / - / Married / - Power / Patrick / 56 / Male / Servant / Roman Catholic / Co Wexford / Lamp Lighter / Read and write / - / Married / - Beer / John / 50 / Male / Servant / Church of England / Australia / Sailor / Read and write / - / Married / - Carey / John / 35 / Male / Servant / Roman Catholic / Co Dublin / Sailor / Read and write / - / Married / - Reigh / Patrick / 41 / Male / Servant / Roman Catholic / Co Wexford / Carpentor / Read and write / - / Married / - White / John / 47 / Male / Servant / Roman Catholic / Co Wexford / Seaman / Read and write / - / Married / - Rossiter / James / 39 / Male / Servant / Roman Catholic / Co Wexford / Seaman / Read and write / - / Married / - *** FROM: Edd Sinnett in Florida Researching Sinnott's from Co's Wexford,Wicklow and Dublin. ----- Original Message ----- From: <pjsalis@hal-pc.org> To: "Dublin list" <IRL-DUBLIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:15 PM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] GRO marriage record: meaning of "Full" age

Hi PJ Full age means they were taken to be 21 or over Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/10/2012 17:15, pjsalis@hal-pc.org wrote: > > Hello list, > > I have Gen. Reg. Ofc marriage records for marriages in 1885, 1889, and > 1906, and in each case both the bride and the groom were recorded as > "Full" age, with no numbers given. > > How was "Full" age defined in years, and was the definition fairly > constant over time? > > Thanks. > > PJ, in Texas

You could post it in smaller bites, but you could also post it to the Rootsweb board. I am not sure how large a post you can make there but you can attach pics that are pretty large so maybe a text file of your *doc? Eliz On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:15 PM, <pjsalis@hal-pc.org> wrote: > > Hello All, > > I've finally transcribed all the BMD and other records (GRO, > church-register, passenger-list, census) that I've collected since the > 1980s for my father's maternal Plunkett, Kelly, and Carey line in > Kingstown/DunLaoghaire. I want both to ask for new information from other > researchers and to deposit the information in the Rootsweb archive. > > BUT ... it's a 1,700-word document, detailed but well-organized in > chronological order. The three families formed one large family group > over time. Organizing the data chronologically gave me a good picture of > members' changing circumstances, their tragedies, their accommodations to > the tragedies, and their gradual migration to the US between 1910 and > 1920. I suspect their experiences resembled those of many other Irish > people of the era. > > My question for you is whether my posting it to the IRL-DUBLIN list would > be appropriate and ultimately useful. Or should I just post a message > saying that it's available and that I'll email it in a Word attachment > directly to anyone who wants it? (But only emailing it to individuals > would not allow me to deposit it in the Rootsweb archive, unless there's > some work-around I could use.) > > What's your opinion / advice. > > Thanks in advance. > PJ, in Texas > > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi PJ; Would you be kind enough to do a look up for any Sinnott/Synnott variables in those records ??? TIA (Thanks in Advance) Edd Sinnett in Florida Researching Sinnott's from Co's Wexford,Wicklow and Dublin. ----- Original Message ----- From: <pjsalis@hal-pc.org> To: "Dublin list" <IRL-DUBLIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:15 PM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] GRO marriage record: meaning of "Full" age > > Hello list, > > I have Gen. Reg. Ofc marriage records for marriages in 1885, 1889, and > 1906, and in each case both the bride and the groom were recorded as > "Full" age, with no numbers given. > > How was "Full" age defined in years, and was the definition fairly > constant over time? > > Thanks. > > PJ, in Texas > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello All, I've finally transcribed all the BMD and other records (GRO, church-register, passenger-list, census) that I've collected since the 1980s for my father's maternal Plunkett, Kelly, and Carey line in Kingstown/DunLaoghaire. I want both to ask for new information from other researchers and to deposit the information in the Rootsweb archive. BUT ... it's a 1,700-word document, detailed but well-organized in chronological order. The three families formed one large family group over time. Organizing the data chronologically gave me a good picture of members' changing circumstances, their tragedies, their accommodations to the tragedies, and their gradual migration to the US between 1910 and 1920. I suspect their experiences resembled those of many other Irish people of the era. My question for you is whether my posting it to the IRL-DUBLIN list would be appropriate and ultimately useful. Or should I just post a message saying that it's available and that I'll email it in a Word attachment directly to anyone who wants it? (But only emailing it to individuals would not allow me to deposit it in the Rootsweb archive, unless there's some work-around I could use.) What's your opinion / advice. Thanks in advance. PJ, in Texas

Hello list, I have Gen. Reg. Ofc marriage records for marriages in 1885, 1889, and 1906, and in each case both the bride and the groom were recorded as "Full" age, with no numbers given. How was "Full" age defined in years, and was the definition fairly constant over time? Thanks. PJ, in Texas

22-Nov-1851 On the 18th November, in St. Peter's Church, Dublin, by the Rev. John Harris of Shircock, the Rev. John R. Darley, Glengormley and the Rectory, Cootehill, to Anna, eldest daughter of the Hon. John Plunket, and grand daughter of Lord Plunket and of the late Rt. Hon Charles Kendal Bushe. Coleraine Newspaper. Cheers Cara

Captain William Burgh who was the Comptroller and Accountant General for Ireland. The Architect was his brother Thomas Burgh who also designed Trinity College Library, Dr. Steeven's Hospital and Collins Barracks Dublin. Cheers cara Ps. And you already have your homework -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Finlay Sent: 19 October 2012 15:34 To: UK-MILITARY@rootsweb.com Cc: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Who was Captain Burgh? I found the following piece in the EPPI regarding John Browne & Captain Burgh. It doesn't give many clues about who Captain Burgh was, where he lived or when he was born. Is someone able to help please. http://eppi.dippam.ac.uk/documents/8740/eppi_pages/199300 Regards, Roger Finlay ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2614/5841 - Release Date: 10/19/12

BURGH, Lieutenant Arthur (1792-1835) Co. Kildare family, a son of Florinda Gardiner, a sister of Viscount Mountjoy. (BurkeLG: 172) Florinda Gardiner was the daughter of Rt. Hon. Charles Gardiner and Florinda Norman.2 She married Thomas Burgh, son of Thomas Burgh and Katherine Wolseley, on 10 August 1784.1 She died in 1830.1 From 10 August 1784, her married name became Burgh. ==========================================

I found the following piece in the EPPI regarding John Browne & Captain Burgh. It doesn't give many clues about who Captain Burgh was, where he lived or when he was born. Is someone able to help please. http://eppi.dippam.ac.uk/documents/8740/eppi_pages/199300 Regards, Roger Finlay

Males married in the parish of their bride, and went to live in their own parish, so therefore it would be an fairly average bet that sometimes a child from the marriage belonging to the bride ( now a married woman) would have been baptised in her home parish, if she was of some importance, I find it not so in the farming community, or perhaps the labourer, he appears to have met and married his wife and carried her off to his parish and all children were baptised in that parish. And in the era you are researching, You need to transport yourself to that time frame yourself ( we all wish we could) but the woman did as she was told, she never had the right to vote, or disagree or in fact say no to very much at all, so therefore no the woman did not say where the child would be baptised, but as I have said depends upon perhaps the social standing of the bride as to whether she had children baptised in her home parish. In fact if it was a mixed marriage you can bet the Clergy were having a say in where or what church the children would be baptised in. It may well set you in good stead to look at some of the current laws of the time also PJ, there was so much going on and the church always seemed to be there in amongst the goings on of the time. It would appear that you are placing in your well balanced research the word 'assuming' never assume with the Irish for once you assume something the whole playing field tilts and you are tipped off the field of play, always do as you have been doing, follow all leads and you will get there. I have been looking at your names and following your research, finding it most interesting to see someone delving so deeply for information. Yours truly, cara

Hello List, To follow up on comments to my query so far: As I think I've posted before, in one Curtis-Hawkins family I'm researching there was switching between RC and COI parishes. I've listed the info below. The matriarch was baptized RC. Of the children's 11 baptisms, 9 were in COI churches and 2 were in RC churches. Two of the 11 baptisms were for one child, who was baptized in both COI and RC churches. Of the children's 3 marriages, one child was baptized COI and married RC, one was both baptized and married COI, and the one who was baptized both COI and RC married RC. At the least this suggests some fluidity in this family's church affiliations. Would the predominance of COI ceremonies indicate that the patriarch Gardiner might have been COI and have prevailed on his baptized-RC wife Catherine to have most of the children's ceremonies in his church (i.e., St. Mary)? Were the ties to the home parish perhaps less firm in COI parishes than in RC parishes? Do you have any thoughts on why the children's occasional switches between COI and RC parishes occurred? *** Family of Gardiner Curtis and Catherine Hawkins Patriarch Gardiner no birth info yet, but birth year estimated as 1816 on death record (familysearch.org) Matriarch Catherine baptized 1813 RC St Andrew Their known children's baptisms and their known marriages: John baptized 1839 RC St Mary Pro Gardiner* no birth info yet, but birth year estimated as 1846 on death record (familysearch.org) Thomas baptized 1848 COI St Mary Thomas married 1868 RC St Andrew James William baptized 1850 COI St Mary Mathew baptized 1851 COI St Mary Catharine Maria baptized 1853 COI St Mary William Joseph baptized 1854 COI St Mary (William) Joseph married 1879 COI St Peter Susan baptized 1857 COI St Mary Susan married 1877 COI St Thomas Edward Henry baptized 1859 COI St Mary Martha Elizabeth baptized 1861 Jan 25 COI St Mary Martha (Elizabeth) baptized 1861 Jan 28 RC St Mary Pro Martha (Elizabeth) married 1884 RC St Mary Pro Benjamin Henry baptized 1866 COI St Mary * There's something special about this child, Gardiner Curtis jr. He's the only one for whom I can't find a baptismal record. What I have found (familysearch.org) is three apparently separate arrests in 1871 (for assault, felony pad lock, crime) and one in 1874 ("asst his father" assaulting his father?). Gardiner sr. was recorded as a shoemaker in the marriage records of his children that I have; I don't know what Gardiner jr.'s occupation was. Both Gardiner sr. and Gardiner jr. died in 1874 in North Dublin (familysearch.org). Earlier someone on the list suggested that they may have succumbed to epidemic disease in 1874. Now I wonder if the two men fought to the death?? *** Thanks for your thoughts. PJ, in Texas

I have found a lot of extra records, by once in familysearch. Scrolling down to All Records Collections. waiting a moment as it takes a little time to come in. There all the continents are. You click on United Kingdom and Ireland and the census of england 1841 til 1911 are there and records for Ireland and all United Kingdom. There wont be complete records but Different areas of fmilysearch will yeild different records. Even Merchant Navy reocrds. that is why All Record Collection is a good way to go. You can find your ancestor in several walks of life in the records are here. Irish femal prison records as well.You then have to buy credits to find mypast. Sometimes it is enogh infomation what you see on screen. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: <pjsalis@hal-pc.org> To: "Brooklyn list" <NYBROOKLYN@rootsweb.com>; "Dublin list" <IRL-DUBLIN@rootsweb.com>; "Middlesex list" <MAMIDDLE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:56 AM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Familysearch.org research outlines, guides, forms etc. > Hello All, > > For a many years I found the Research Outlines at familysearch.org some of > my most useful resources. Since the revision of the site, I've been > unable to find them. I emailed a query and received the response below. > I thought others might find it of interest. > > PJ, in Texas > *** > > RESPONSE > > Document ID: 103929 > > How to find Research Guidance, Research Helps, Research Forms, and > Research Outlines > > Research Guidance > Research Guidance is an online assistant that helps you decide what > records to use to find information about your ancestors. It lists the best > records to use, recommends an order to search them in, provides > step-by-step instructions for finding information in the records, and > tells you where to locate the copies of the records. To access Research > Guidance: > > 1. Go to Research Wiki at https://wiki.familysearch.org/ > > 2. In the keyword search field type research guidance. > > 3. From the search results, scroll down to and click on the desired > locality. (see Search Tip at bottom) > > Research Helps > Research Helps includes research outlines, record type guides, forms, > maps, historical backgrounds, and information on how to find a map, name > variations, word lists, and so forth. To access Research Helps: > > 1. Go to Research Wiki at https://wiki.familysearch.org/ > > 2. In the keyword search field type research helps. > > 3. From the search results, scroll down to and click on the desired > Research Help. (see Search Tip) > > Blank Forms > There are many research related forms available and can be found as > follows: > > 1. Go to Research Wiki at https://wiki.familysearch.org/ > > 2. In the keyword search field type blank forms > > 3. From the search results, scroll down to and click on the desired form. > (see Search Tip) > > Research Outlines: > For decades, the Family History Library has published research outlines > which instruct patrons in genealogical techniques and list the best > records to use in family history research. In 2009 we are retiring > research outlines for several reasons outlined in the Introduction to the > FamilySearch Wiki at > > https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/FamilySearch_Wiki:Introduction. > > This article explains how to use FamilySearch Wiki at > > https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Main_Page > > to find more current versions of the types of information traditionally > found in research outlines. Click Retirement of Research Outlines at > > https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Retirement_of_Research_Outlines > > for more information. > > ________________________________________ > *Search Tip: Hold down the Ctrl key while pressing the F key at the same > time (Ctrl+F). A Find pop-up window will appear on your screen where you > can enter a specific word (or words) to search for in the information you > are currently viewing. Click Next (or press the Enter key) to move the > cursor to the word (or words) in the page you are viewing (if it exists). > > END OF RESPONSE > > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There were times when you had no choice about which parish you attended. You went to the one you lived in period (unless you had an Army Base with chapel you could attend). don't know how draconian early Irish priests were (here in the US they were tough about it) if they would treat the family as tho they still lived in the parish even if they moved Eliz On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM, <pjsalis@hal-pc.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm slogging my way through the churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie 1800s > database looking for surnames Hawkins, Moran, Curtis, Kirk, Rea, Finnegan, > Plunkett, and White in Dublin city, in an effort to identify possible > parents and siblings of people in the direct line I'm researching. > > I find myself assuming that people with the same forenames and especially > surnames who celebrated baptisms and marriages at the same church may have > been related. The task is complicated by the frequent use of the same > forenames among siblings' families and over successive generations. And > some families seem to have used several different RC or COI churches over > time. > > Am I correct in assuming that, other things being equal, families would > have celebrated their baptisms and marriages at the church nearest their > current home? > > But might it have been the practice for a male from a family to be married > and have his children baptized at a church different from that of his > parents and siblings if his bride/wife made that choice? Were there any > usual practices on these matters? > > Thanks for any thoughts. > > PJ, in Texas > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, I'm slogging my way through the churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie 1800s database looking for surnames Hawkins, Moran, Curtis, Kirk, Rea, Finnegan, Plunkett, and White in Dublin city, in an effort to identify possible parents and siblings of people in the direct line I'm researching. I find myself assuming that people with the same forenames and especially surnames who celebrated baptisms and marriages at the same church may have been related. The task is complicated by the frequent use of the same forenames among siblings' families and over successive generations. And some families seem to have used several different RC or COI churches over time. Am I correct in assuming that, other things being equal, families would have celebrated their baptisms and marriages at the church nearest their current home? But might it have been the practice for a male from a family to be married and have his children baptized at a church different from that of his parents and siblings if his bride/wife made that choice? Were there any usual practices on these matters? Thanks for any thoughts. PJ, in Texas

Hello All, For a many years I found the Research Outlines at familysearch.org some of my most useful resources. Since the revision of the site, I've been unable to find them. I emailed a query and received the response below. I thought others might find it of interest. PJ, in Texas *** RESPONSE Document ID: 103929 How to find Research Guidance, Research Helps, Research Forms, and Research Outlines Research Guidance Research Guidance is an online assistant that helps you decide what records to use to find information about your ancestors. It lists the best records to use, recommends an order to search them in, provides step-by-step instructions for finding information in the records, and tells you where to locate the copies of the records. To access Research Guidance: 1. Go to Research Wiki at https://wiki.familysearch.org/ 2. In the keyword search field type research guidance. 3. From the search results, scroll down to and click on the desired locality. (see Search Tip at bottom) Research Helps Research Helps includes research outlines, record type guides, forms, maps, historical backgrounds, and information on how to find a map, name variations, word lists, and so forth. To access Research Helps: 1. Go to Research Wiki at https://wiki.familysearch.org/ 2. In the keyword search field type research helps. 3. From the search results, scroll down to and click on the desired Research Help. (see Search Tip) Blank Forms There are many research related forms available and can be found as follows: 1. Go to Research Wiki at https://wiki.familysearch.org/ 2. In the keyword search field type blank forms 3. From the search results, scroll down to and click on the desired form. (see Search Tip) Research Outlines: For decades, the Family History Library has published research outlines which instruct patrons in genealogical techniques and list the best records to use in family history research. In 2009 we are retiring research outlines for several reasons outlined in the Introduction to the FamilySearch Wiki at https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/FamilySearch_Wiki:Introduction. This article explains how to use FamilySearch Wiki at https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Main_Page to find more current versions of the types of information traditionally found in research outlines. Click Retirement of Research Outlines at https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Retirement_of_Research_Outlines for more information. ________________________________________ *Search Tip: Hold down the Ctrl key while pressing the F key at the same time (Ctrl+F). A Find pop-up window will appear on your screen where you can enter a specific word (or words) to search for in the information you are currently viewing. Click Next (or press the Enter key) to move the cursor to the word (or words) in the page you are viewing (if it exists). END OF RESPONSE