Anne if no one sends you the digest you can read the messages at the list archives http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-DUBLIN.html Scroll for browse archives. Eliz On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:33 AM, anne vivienne power <[email protected]> wrote: > May I have it again please? > > So also taking the opportunity to correct Maggie Doyle's message > slightly. > > It was my grandmother's brother, Charles Maher, who was found in > Glasnevin, and hence all his dublin descendants.  He is my gt/uncle. > My grandmother died in Liverpool in 1914 and her children were in the > police orphanage in Liverpool. > I'm eager to know what my gt.uncle told his family about his sister > and her family.  He was marrying in Dublin the year that his brother- > in-law, my grandfather died in Liverpool and started the huge tragedy > for my father and his siblings. > > Anne Power Liverpool 1931 > > > On 10 Mar 2011, at 02:35, [email protected] wrote: > >> >>

Thank you Maggie...............every little tip is precious. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Doyle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:51 AM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Surname Poole My family moved around so much, even I find it hard to track them+I live here. They mostly lived in tenements, so if thier son or daughter got married+ moved to another house, the family would follow as soon as a room became available. ( which had to be often at the rate they moved). But you will find that they didn't move very far. So if you check the Churches within a one Kilometer radius, maybe you can find them. When you have the name of a street, look it up on a map. I must explain that the areas referred to in the census, like Mountjoy+Trinity are only 15 minutes walk from each other, so it's best to keep to the streets and not the DEDs for research purposes. Maggie

Thank you Margaret..........I will check that out. My Pooles seemed to move around a lot. Every few years they are found living in a different Parish. For some time many of them lived in the area of Mountjoy ward, Gardner Street and Blaquiere Bridge Road, St. Georges As my great grandfather was born just a year after his brother who was baptised St Andrews I requested a search but nothing was found. So off they went again to a new area I suppose...-)) What I need to do is spend a month or so in Dublin and start a major search myself. Wouldn't that be wonderful.......-)) Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Doyle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Hi, RCs who lived in the vicinity of Marlborough street may have been baptised at St. Marys. Look at www.procathedral.ie for the history. They would have been classed as 'Townies ' when the City began to expand. Maggie

Hi Anne, I am sending this off list so I can ask you have any connection to Thomas R Power who married Nellie Hughes (Mary Ellen) in Liverpool in 1933. Nellie died in childbirth aged 23 and is buried in Toxteth Cemetery? If you think you have a connection please get in touch. Syl - UK

Hi Marg and all First thing to say is that there is not one absolute search that will work in all cases the same way Where you are searching the likes of google and similar try the first and last name as follows John.SMITH (fullstop between, with no gaps) Or "John SMITH" (also works for phrases) In some publications such as the Gazettes & Directories names are often recorded reversed so try SMITH.John or "SMITH John" Some use initials or a title so try "Mr J SMITH" or just "J SMITH" etc If you know your man was a silversmith for example a combined search of "John SMITH" and Silversmith OR "John SMITH" + Silversmith OR "John SMITH" + Silversmith + Dublin May help You can also use the minus sign to try and exclude unwanted words Such as CAMBRIDGE - Shire Although that can bring up some odd results Worth playing with though Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > My worst names for searching are POOLE, CAMBRIDGE and WAKEFIELD which brings > up thousands of unrelated sites. I have tried so many things to get around > this but nothing seems to work. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Marg

Thanks Nivard...............I will give it a try. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> Hi Marg and all First thing to say is that there is not one absolute search that will work in all cases the same way Where you are searching the likes of google and similar try the first and last name as follows John.SMITH (fullstop between, with no gaps) Or "John SMITH" (also works for phrases) In some publications such as the Gazettes & Directories names are often recorded reversed so try SMITH.John or "SMITH John" Some use initials or a title so try "Mr J SMITH" or just "J SMITH" etc If you know your man was a silversmith for example a combined search of "John SMITH" and Silversmith OR "John SMITH" + Silversmith OR "John SMITH" + Silversmith + Dublin May help You can also use the minus sign to try and exclude unwanted words Such as CAMBRIDGE - Shire Although that can bring up some odd results Worth playing with though Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> Interesting surname where do yours actually begin in Ireland Cheers Cara Hi Cara, Interesting indeed. The earliest I have traced them is Dublin. Frederick POOLE and Maria DRAKE had who I believe to be their first child, Frederick William in 1826 Parish of St Andrews, Dublin. My great grandfather, Edward Ore POOLE was born in 1827 although I have been unable to find his baptism or birth. They had Charles, Christopher, John and Charlotte Maria baptised between 1828 and 1841. Frederick William had 14 children, Charles had 9, all born in Dublin. I haven't yet found the others marriages or children. They were an interesting bunch. The son, Frederick William POOLE, a tailor, and Sophia FANNIN were the parents of Joseph POOLE born 26 August 1855 who was charged with the murder of John Kenny and hanged at Richmond Bridewell 18 Dec 1883. He was later found to be innocent but to late. There is a plaque commemorating Joseph on the side of what was Richmond Prison and I believe is now a college. I have a copy of the last letter Joseph wrote to his family and friends before he was hanged. The police were already watching young Joe as he was a member of the Fenians as were numerous other family members. Capt. Christy Poole, Vincent Poole and John Poole participated in the 1916 Easter Rising. John's son, James Connolly Poole, b 1917, was named after the Fenian, James Connolly. Young James joined NaFianna Eireann. He was arrested in the Dublin mountains with others and served time in Arbour Hill. After his release he was back in the IRA and was interned in the Currah for three years in the 1940's. >From the 1911 census records and other documents I find my Pooles living at 8 Gloucester St., 5 Rutland St., 50 Marlborough, 93 Foley. When my gr grandfather, Edward Ore Poole and Susan Killfoyle had their first child in 1846 they were living at Graham's Row, Dublin. My POOLE research has been quite a journey for me. Firstly, I was not aware that the family was Roman Catholic and certainly didn't know they were all so heavily involved with the Republican Movement. Research is not always easy from this side of the big pond but with so much information available on line now along with writing letters I will continue to pick away at it. Finding where old Fred and Maria were baptised and married may take a long while but one day I may find them. And who knows where. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

May I have it again please? So also taking the opportunity to correct Maggie Doyle's message slightly. It was my grandmother's brother, Charles Maher, who was found in Glasnevin, and hence all his dublin descendants. He is my gt/uncle. My grandmother died in Liverpool in 1914 and her children were in the police orphanage in Liverpool. I'm eager to know what my gt.uncle told his family about his sister and her family. He was marrying in Dublin the year that his brother- in-law, my grandfather died in Liverpool and started the huge tragedy for my father and his siblings. Anne Power Liverpool 1931 On 10 Mar 2011, at 02:35, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > -------------------------------------- > > Today's Topics: > > 1. thanks for your help (anne vivienne power) > 2. Finding the Maher family (Margaret Doyle) > 3. Re: [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from > RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 (Carol) > 4. Re: [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from > RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 (Eliz Hanebury) > 5. Re: [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from > RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 (margaret pavljuk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:35:17 +0000 > From: anne vivienne power <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] thanks for your help > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I just want to rejoice and thank Maggie Doyle again. > > Now got a photo of Charles Maher 1873-1953 my grandmother's only > brother, who had one child Charles but he had 11 children, 9 of whom > moved to England, and Mary who stayed in Dublin, Brendan's mother had > 7 children so there are loads of relatives for me to meet and > correspond with. > > WILL get that envelope to you soon ! > > Anne Power of Liverpool though now in Manchester. > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:51:39 +0000 (GMT) > From: Margaret Doyle <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Finding the Maher family > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks Anne, I know people on the list may not remember as it's a > while since Anne first made contact, she was looking for any living > relatives who may still be in Dublin. I found her gfathers death on > glasnevintrust. Anne needed some more info so I offered to locate > his death cert at the GRO. It costs 2 euro to look at 5 consec. books > +4 euro for the cert. This is the envelope that Anne refers to in > her email. I don't charge anything. > On Charles Mahers death cert, the informant was Mary Maher, with an > address just up the road from me. This was a really lucky break+I'm > sure it doesn't happen very often, but Im delighted to have been > able to help Anne find her family. I wish her lots of joyfull times > with them. > Maggie > >

I have the same problem with PARKS :( ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 LOL I will give you my hard to google names Wills, Lord (you can only begin to imagine the hits), James (surname) it makes me shudder just to think. Changing email addy on old posts, are possible if you posted to a message board, just answer the post again with the new addy, then it will show up in searches for the name. Eliz On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:52 AM, edd73 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Das: > Thank you for posting that article to explain what some of us researcher > have to go through when looking up ancestors, but the dedicated surname > field is only as good as the Search Engine, and the worst one for me is > the > Atomic SE., > > The (3) three Surnames that give me the most trouble are. > > 1 )Mortimer especially from England because there is a location in England > called Mortimer and ...........also all those with the given name > Mortimer. > > 2 )Manuel which also produces written manuals as in books........... and > > 3 )Parent which always returns " the parents of " > > Now that you can edit your previous entries, it begs the other question I > always had, which is are you able to change your E-mail address, ( as so > many of us have done over the years ) so that someone reading an entry > from > say 1999 or 2005 can actual respond to your current addie. > > Edd Sinnett in Florida > _________________________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: > <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:00 AM Subject: > [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, > 9 > March 2011 > > Genealogy Tip > > By _Joan Young_ (mailto:[email protected]) Are Your Genealogy > Posts Getting Lost in the Forest? > > Everyone has considered the age-old question "if a tree falls in the > forest > and no one is around, does it make a sound?" Both sides of that issue can > be debated with valid arguments. However, when it comes to family history > research there can be no debate about the difficulty in posting queries or > data that will help interested people find your posts. This is especially > true when your message concerns ancestors with surnames (last names) that > are also common words or given names (first names). When you are > researching surnames such as FOREST, LANE, ROBINS, or ROBERT, make use of > all available options at your disposal at the time you post the message, > and also when searching for existing posts. If you are not careful with > common-word surnames your message will be like the tree that falls in the > forest and no one will see or hear it. Some pointers that may help you > when > posting and searching are: > 1) Post your queries in places such as the RootsWeb/Ancestry _message > boards_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?L4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdZ=12991) where > the database offers a dedicated surname field. Enter only the surnames > found in your query in the surname box. Enter the surnames in a manner > that > will enable proper indexing for future searches. If you enter: ROBERT(S) > or > LANE/LAINE your surnames may not be found in a search unless someone were > to enter the names exactly as you wrote them which is unlikely. Enter the > surnames and variants individually with a comma and space to separate > them: > LANE, LAINE, ROBERT, ROBERTS. Do not enter any characters or symbols, > dashes or slashes, which may cause the searcher to miss your entries or > may > introduce non-surnames into the search field. The words "and" "or" "etc." > and "family" a re not surnames and should not be entered into the surnames > box. Properly entered surnames in a dedicated field will yield only > surnames and no extraneous words in a search. While most researchers will > perform a search to find your message, some people prefer to browse > through > all messages on a board scanning the posts for items of interest. Commas > separating surnames make it easier for researchers who browse to find > names > they are seeking. Your VAN WINKLE ancestors might be mistaken for separate > surnames VAN and WINKLE unless you make use of commas as delimiters. > Surname box entries listed: LANE, VAN WINKLE, ROBERT, ROBERTS make it > clear > exactly which surnames are included in your message. Don't let your VAN > WINKLEs sleep for another twenty years. > 2) If you are posting your query or data in a database that has no > dedicated > surname search feature (such as the RootsWeb _mailing list archives_ > (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search) ), be sure to > include > as much information about your ancestor as possible to help others find > your message. For example: if your query concerns James ROBERT of Perth, > Australia be sure to include the full name and location in your post. Many > search engines permit searches for full names such as: "James ROBERT" or > perform Boolean searches for James NEAR ROBERT, or James AND ROBERT, or > even "James ROBERT" AND Australia. Try various combinations of search > criteria to find the maximum number of posts. > 3) Make use of online databases for posting or uploading your family tree. > Family Tree databases such as RootsWeb's _WorldConnect_ > (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?X4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdv=13011) will always > have a search engine that finds the surnames included in your tree and not > similarly-spelled extraneous words. After reading the above information, > are > you having second thoughts about your existing RootsWeb message board > posts? Here's an additional tip: you can now edit (or delete) your own > posts on the boards. So, do a search for your posts and fix errors in > surname entries, or remove obsolete queries and post an updated message. > Don't let your queries be like the fallen tree in the empty forest never > to > be seen or heard from again. 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Yeah , I get nailed with "Ridgeway". In a message dated 3/9/2011 9:35:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: mmmm try YARD.... as bad as parks. or Freer you would think easy, but every thing with Free comes up! --- On Thu, 10/3/11, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 To: [email protected] Received: Thursday, 10 March, 2011, 1:29 PM Oh I bet you do!! Eliz On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Carol <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the same problem with PARKS :( > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from > RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 > > > > LOL I will give you my hard to google names Wills, Lord (you can only > begin to imagine the hits), James (surname) it makes me shudder just > to think. > > Changing email addy on old posts, are possible if you posted to a > message board, just answer the post again with the new addy, then it > will show up in searches for the name. > > > > > Eliz > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:52 AM, edd73 <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Das: >> Thank you for posting that article to explain what some of us researcher >> have to go through when looking up ancestors, but the dedicated surname >> field is only as good as the Search Engine, and the worst one for me is >> the >> Atomic SE., >> >> The (3) three Surnames that give me the most trouble are. >> >> 1 )Mortimer especially from England because there is a location in England >> called Mortimer and ...........also all those with the given name >> Mortimer. >> >> 2 )Manuel which also produces written manuals as in books........... and >> >> 3 )Parent which always returns " the parents of " >> >> Now that you can edit your previous entries, it begs the other question I >> always had, which is are you able to change your E-mail address, ( as so >> many of us have done over the years ) so that someone reading an entry >> from >> say 1999 or 2005 can actual respond to your current addie. >> >> Edd Sinnett in Florida >> _________________________________________ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: >> <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:00 AM Subject: >> [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, >> 9 >> March 2011 >> >> Genealogy Tip >> >> By _Joan Young_ (mailto:[email protected]) Are Your Genealogy >> Posts Getting Lost in the Forest? >> >> Everyone has considered the age-old question "if a tree falls in the >> forest >> and no one is around, does it make a sound?" Both sides of that issue can >> be debated with valid arguments. However, when it comes to family history >> research there can be no debate about the difficulty in posting queries or >> data that will help interested people find your posts. This is especially >> true when your message concerns ancestors with surnames (last names) that >> are also common words or given names (first names). When you are >> researching surnames such as FOREST, LANE, ROBINS, or ROBERT, make use of >> all available options at your disposal at the time you post the message, >> and also when searching for existing posts. If you are not careful with >> common-word surnames your message will be like the tree that falls in the >> forest and no one will see or hear it. Some pointers that may help you >> when >> posting and searching are: >> 1) Post your queries in places such as the RootsWeb/Ancestry _message >> boards_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?L4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdZ=12991) where >> the database offers a dedicated surname field. Enter only the surnames >> found in your query in the surname box. Enter the surnames in a manner >> that >> will enable proper indexing for future searches. If you enter: ROBERT(S) >> or >> LANE/LAINE your surnames may not be found in a search unless someone were >> to enter the names exactly as you wrote them which is unlikely. Enter the >> surnames and variants individually with a comma and space to separate >> them: >> LANE, LAINE, ROBERT, ROBERTS. Do not enter any characters or symbols, >> dashes or slashes, which may cause the searcher to miss your entries or >> may >> introduce non-surnames into the search field. The words "and" "or" "etc." >> and "family" a re not surnames and should not be entered into the surnames >> box. Properly entered surnames in a dedicated field will yield only >> surnames and no extraneous words in a search. While most researchers will >> perform a search to find your message, some people prefer to browse >> through >> all messages on a board scanning the posts for items of interest. Commas >> separating surnames make it easier for researchers who browse to find >> names >> they are seeking. Your VAN WINKLE ancestors might be mistaken for separate >> surnames VAN and WINKLE unless you make use of commas as delimiters. >> Surname box entries listed: LANE, VAN WINKLE, ROBERT, ROBERTS make it >> clear >> exactly which surnames are included in your message. Don't let your VAN >> WINKLEs sleep for another twenty years. >> 2) If you are posting your query or data in a database that has no >> dedicated >> surname search feature (such as the RootsWeb _mailing list archives_ >> (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search) ), be sure to >> include >> as much information about your ancestor as possible to help others find >> your message. For example: if your query concerns James ROBERT of Perth, >> Australia be sure to include the full name and location in your post. Many >> search engines permit searches for full names such as: "James ROBERT" or >> perform Boolean searches for James NEAR ROBERT, or James AND ROBERT, or >> even "James ROBERT" AND Australia. Try various combinations of search >> criteria to find the maximum number of posts. >> 3) Make use of online databases for posting or uploading your family tree. >> Family Tree databases such as RootsWeb's _WorldConnect_ >> (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?X4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdv=13011) will always >> have a search engine that finds the surnames included in your tree and not >> similarly-spelled extraneous words. After reading the above information, >> are >> you having second thoughts about your existing RootsWeb message board >> posts? Here's an additional tip: you can now edit (or delete) your own >> posts on the boards. So, do a search for your posts and fix errors in >> surname entries, or remove obsolete queries and post an updated message. >> Don't let your queries be like the fallen tree in the empty forest never >> to >> be seen or heard from again. 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Oh I bet you do!! Eliz On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Carol <[email protected]> wrote: > >  I have the same problem with PARKS  :( > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from > RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 > > > > LOL I will give you my hard to google names Wills, Lord (you can only > begin to imagine the hits), James (surname) it makes me shudder just > to think. > > Changing email addy on old posts, are possible if you posted to a > message board, just answer the post again with the new addy, then it > will show up in searches for the name. > > > > > Eliz > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:52 AM, edd73 <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Das: >> Thank you for posting that article to explain what some of us researcher >> have to go through when looking up ancestors, but the dedicated surname >> field is only as good as the Search Engine, and the worst one for me is >> the >> Atomic SE., >> >> The (3) three Surnames that give me the most trouble are. >> >> 1 )Mortimer especially from England because there is a location in England >> called Mortimer and ...........also all those with the given name >> Mortimer. >> >> 2 )Manuel which also produces written manuals as in books........... and >> >> 3 )Parent which always returns " the parents of " >> >> Now that you can edit your previous entries, it begs the other question I >> always had, which is are you able to change your E-mail address, ( as so >> many of us have done over the years ) so that someone reading an entry >> from >> say 1999 or 2005 can actual respond to your current addie. >> >> Edd Sinnett in Florida >> _________________________________________ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: >> <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:00 AM Subject: >> [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, >> 9 >> March 2011 >> >> Genealogy Tip >> >> By _Joan Young_ (mailto:[email protected]) Are Your Genealogy >> Posts Getting Lost in the Forest? >> >> Everyone has considered the age-old question "if a tree falls in the >> forest >> and no one is around, does it make a sound?" Both sides of that issue can >> be debated with valid arguments. However, when it comes to family history >> research there can be no debate about the difficulty in posting queries or >> data that will help interested people find your posts. This is especially >> true when your message concerns ancestors with surnames (last names) that >> are also common words or given names (first names). When you are >> researching surnames such as FOREST, LANE, ROBINS, or ROBERT, make use of >> all available options at your disposal at the time you post the message, >> and also when searching for existing posts. If you are not careful with >> common-word surnames your message will be like the tree that falls in the >> forest and no one will see or hear it. Some pointers that may help you >> when >> posting and searching are: >> 1) Post your queries in places such as the RootsWeb/Ancestry _message >> boards_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?L4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdZ=12991) where >> the database offers a dedicated surname field. Enter only the surnames >> found in your query in the surname box. Enter the surnames in a manner >> that >> will enable proper indexing for future searches. If you enter: ROBERT(S) >> or >> LANE/LAINE your surnames may not be found in a search unless someone were >> to enter the names exactly as you wrote them which is unlikely. Enter the >> surnames and variants individually with a comma and space to separate >> them: >> LANE, LAINE, ROBERT, ROBERTS. Do not enter any characters or symbols, >> dashes or slashes, which may cause the searcher to miss your entries or >> may >> introduce non-surnames into the search field. The words "and" "or" "etc." >> and "family" a re not surnames and should not be entered into the surnames >> box. Properly entered surnames in a dedicated field will yield only >> surnames and no extraneous words in a search. While most researchers will >> perform a search to find your message, some people prefer to browse >> through >> all messages on a board scanning the posts for items of interest. Commas >> separating surnames make it easier for researchers who browse to find >> names >> they are seeking. Your VAN WINKLE ancestors might be mistaken for separate >> surnames VAN and WINKLE unless you make use of commas as delimiters. >> Surname box entries listed: LANE, VAN WINKLE, ROBERT, ROBERTS make it >> clear >> exactly which surnames are included in your message. Don't let your VAN >> WINKLEs sleep for another twenty years. >> 2) If you are posting your query or data in a database that has no >> dedicated >> surname search feature (such as the RootsWeb _mailing list archives_ >> (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search) ), be sure to >> include >> as much information about your ancestor as possible to help others find >> your message. For example: if your query concerns James ROBERT of Perth, >> Australia be sure to include the full name and location in your post. Many >> search engines permit searches for full names such as: "James ROBERT" or >> perform Boolean searches for James NEAR ROBERT, or James AND ROBERT, or >> even "James ROBERT" AND Australia. Try various combinations of search >> criteria to find the maximum number of posts. >> 3) Make use of online databases for posting or uploading your family tree. >> Family Tree databases such as RootsWeb's _WorldConnect_ >> (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?X4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdv=13011) will always >> have a search engine that finds the surnames included in your tree and not >> similarly-spelled extraneous words. After reading the above information, >> are >> you having second thoughts about your existing RootsWeb message board >> posts? Here's an additional tip: you can now edit (or delete) your own >> posts on the boards. So, do a search for your posts and fix errors in >> surname entries, or remove obsolete queries and post an updated message. >> Don't let your queries be like the fallen tree in the empty forest never >> to >> be seen or heard from again. 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Thanks Anne, I know people on the list may not remember as it's a while since Anne first made contact, she was looking for any living relatives who may still be in Dublin. I found her gfathers death on glasnevintrust. Anne needed some more info so I offered to locate his death cert at the GRO. It costs 2 euro to look at 5 consec. books+4 euro for the cert. This is the envelope that Anne refers to in her email. I don't charge anything. On Charles Mahers death cert, the informant was Mary Maher, with an address just up the road from me. This was a really lucky break+I'm sure it doesn't happen very often, but Im delighted to have been able to help Anne find her family. I wish her lots of joyfull times with them. Maggie

I just want to rejoice and thank Maggie Doyle again. Now got a photo of Charles Maher 1873-1953 my grandmother's only brother, who had one child Charles but he had 11 children, 9 of whom moved to England, and Mary who stayed in Dublin, Brendan's mother had 7 children so there are loads of relatives for me to meet and correspond with. WILL get that envelope to you soon ! Anne Power of Liverpool though now in Manchester. >

Try putting the name in brackets, ie Anne (Doyle). This works for me with the name Hand, another difficult name for a system to decipher. Maggie

mmmm try YARD.... as bad as parks. or Freer you would think easy, but every thing with Free comes up! --- On Thu, 10/3/11, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 To: [email protected] Received: Thursday, 10 March, 2011, 1:29 PM Oh I bet you do!! Eliz On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Carol <[email protected]> wrote: > >  I have the same problem with PARKS  :( > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from > RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 > > > > LOL I will give you my hard to google names Wills, Lord (you can only > begin to imagine the hits), James (surname) it makes me shudder just > to think. > > Changing email addy on old posts, are possible if you posted to a > message board, just answer the post again with the new addy, then it > will show up in searches for the name. > > > > > Eliz > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:52 AM, edd73 <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Das: >> Thank you for posting that article to explain what some of us researcher >> have to go through when looking up ancestors, but the dedicated surname >> field is only as good as the Search Engine, and the worst one for me is >> the >> Atomic SE., >> >> The (3) three Surnames that give me the most trouble are. >> >> 1 )Mortimer especially from England because there is a location in England >> called Mortimer and ...........also all those with the given name >> Mortimer. >> >> 2 )Manuel which also produces written manuals as in books........... and >> >> 3 )Parent which always returns " the parents of " >> >> Now that you can edit your previous entries, it begs the other question I >> always had, which is are you able to change your E-mail address, ( as so >> many of us have done over the years ) so that someone reading an entry >> from >> say 1999 or 2005 can actual respond to your current addie. >> >> Edd Sinnett in Florida >> _________________________________________ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: >> <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:00 AM Subject: >> [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, >> 9 >> March 2011 >> >> Genealogy Tip >> >> By _Joan Young_ (mailto:[email protected]) Are Your Genealogy >> Posts Getting Lost in the Forest? >> >> Everyone has considered the age-old question "if a tree falls in the >> forest >> and no one is around, does it make a sound?" Both sides of that issue can >> be debated with valid arguments. However, when it comes to family history >> research there can be no debate about the difficulty in posting queries or >> data that will help interested people find your posts. This is especially >> true when your message concerns ancestors with surnames (last names) that >> are also common words or given names (first names). When you are >> researching surnames such as FOREST, LANE, ROBINS, or ROBERT, make use of >> all available options at your disposal at the time you post the message, >> and also when searching for existing posts. If you are not careful with >> common-word surnames your message will be like the tree that falls in the >> forest and no one will see or hear it. Some pointers that may help you >> when >> posting and searching are: >> 1) Post your queries in places such as the RootsWeb/Ancestry _message >> boards_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?L4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdZ=12991) where >> the database offers a dedicated surname field. Enter only the surnames >> found in your query in the surname box. Enter the surnames in a manner >> that >> will enable proper indexing for future searches. If you enter: ROBERT(S) >> or >> LANE/LAINE your surnames may not be found in a search unless someone were >> to enter the names exactly as you wrote them which is unlikely. Enter the >> surnames and variants individually with a comma and space to separate >> them: >> LANE, LAINE, ROBERT, ROBERTS. Do not enter any characters or symbols, >> dashes or slashes, which may cause the searcher to miss your entries or >> may >> introduce non-surnames into the search field. The words "and" "or" "etc." >> and "family" a re not surnames and should not be entered into the surnames >> box. Properly entered surnames in a dedicated field will yield only >> surnames and no extraneous words in a search. While most researchers will >> perform a search to find your message, some people prefer to browse >> through >> all messages on a board scanning the posts for items of interest. Commas >> separating surnames make it easier for researchers who browse to find >> names >> they are seeking. Your VAN WINKLE ancestors might be mistaken for separate >> surnames VAN and WINKLE unless you make use of commas as delimiters. >> Surname box entries listed: LANE, VAN WINKLE, ROBERT, ROBERTS make it >> clear >> exactly which surnames are included in your message. Don't let your VAN >> WINKLEs sleep for another twenty years. >> 2) If you are posting your query or data in a database that has no >> dedicated >> surname search feature (such as the RootsWeb _mailing list archives_ >> (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search) ), be sure to >> include >> as much information about your ancestor as possible to help others find >> your message. For example: if your query concerns James ROBERT of Perth, >> Australia be sure to include the full name and location in your post. Many >> search engines permit searches for full names such as: "James ROBERT" or >> perform Boolean searches for James NEAR ROBERT, or James AND ROBERT, or >> even "James ROBERT" AND Australia. Try various combinations of search >> criteria to find the maximum number of posts. >> 3) Make use of online databases for posting or uploading your family tree. >> Family Tree databases such as RootsWeb's _WorldConnect_ >> (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?X4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdv=13011) will always >> have a search engine that finds the surnames included in your tree and not >> similarly-spelled extraneous words. After reading the above information, >> are >> you having second thoughts about your existing RootsWeb message board >> posts? Here's an additional tip: you can now edit (or delete) your own >> posts on the boards. So, do a search for your posts and fix errors in >> surname entries, or remove obsolete queries and post an updated message. >> Don't let your queries be like the fallen tree in the empty forest never >> to >> be seen or heard from again. Reprints Permission to reprint articles from >> RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: >> 1. the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and >> 2. the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously >> published in RootsWeb Review: 9 March 2011, Vol. 14, No. 3 >> >> ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get >> to >> the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply >> to >> your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from >> http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm >> >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and >> do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the >> SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and > do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the > SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3494 - Release Date: 03/09/11 > 12:08:00 > > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LOL I will give you my hard to google names Wills, Lord (you can only begin to imagine the hits), James (surname) it makes me shudder just to think. Changing email addy on old posts, are possible if you posted to a message board, just answer the post again with the new addy, then it will show up in searches for the name. Eliz On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:52 AM, edd73 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Das: > Thank you for posting that article to explain what some of us researcher > have to go through when looking up ancestors, but the dedicated surname > field is only as good as the Search Engine, and the worst one for me is the > Atomic SE., > > The (3) three Surnames that give me the most trouble are. > > 1 )Mortimer especially from England because there is a location in England > called Mortimer and ...........also all those with the given name Mortimer. > > 2 )Manuel which also produces written manuals as in books...........   and > > 3 )Parent which always returns " the parents of " > > Now that you can edit your previous entries, it begs the other question I > always had, which  is are you able to change your E-mail address, ( as so > many of us have done over the years ) so that someone reading an entry from > say 1999 or 2005 can actual  respond to your current addie. > > Edd Sinnett in Florida > _________________________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: > <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:00 AM Subject: > [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, 9 > March 2011 > > Genealogy Tip > > By _Joan  Young_ (mailto:[email protected]) Are Your Genealogy > Posts Getting Lost in the  Forest? > > Everyone has considered the age-old question "if a tree falls  in the forest > and no one is around, does it make a sound?" Both sides of  that issue can > be debated with valid arguments. However, when it  comes to family history > research there can be no debate about the  difficulty in posting queries or > data that will help  interested people find your posts. This is especially > true when your message concerns ancestors with  surnames (last names) that > are also common words or given names  (first names). When you are > researching surnames such as FOREST,  LANE, ROBINS, or ROBERT, make use of > all available options at  your disposal at the time you post the message, > and also when searching for existing posts. If you are not careful with > common-word surnames your message will be like the tree that falls in  the > forest and no one will see or hear it. Some pointers that may help you when > posting and  searching are: > 1) Post your queries in places such as the RootsWeb/Ancestry _message > boards_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?L4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdZ=12991)  where > the database offers a dedicated surname field. Enter  only the surnames > found in your query in the surname box. Enter the  surnames in a manner that > will enable proper indexing for  future searches. If you enter: ROBERT(S) or > LANE/LAINE your surnames  may not be found in a search unless someone were > to enter the  names exactly as you wrote them which is unlikely. Enter  the > surnames and variants individually with a comma and space to  separate them: > LANE, LAINE, ROBERT, ROBERTS. Do not enter any  characters or symbols, > dashes or slashes, which may cause the  searcher to miss your entries or may > introduce non-surnames into the  search field. The words "and" "or" "etc." > and "family" a re not  surnames and should not be entered into the surnames > box. Properly entered  surnames in a dedicated field will yield only > surnames and no extraneous  words in a search. While most researchers will > perform a search to find your message, some people prefer to browse through > all messages on a  board scanning the posts for items of interest. Commas > separating surnames make it easier for researchers who browse to  find names > they are seeking. Your VAN WINKLE ancestors might be  mistaken for separate > surnames VAN and WINKLE unless you make  use of commas as delimiters. > Surname box entries listed: LANE, VAN  WINKLE, ROBERT, ROBERTS make it clear > exactly which surnames are  included in your message. Don't let your VAN > WINKLEs sleep for another  twenty years. > 2) If you are posting your query or data in a database that has no dedicated > surname search feature (such as the RootsWeb _mailing list  archives_ > (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search) ), be sure to include > as much information about your ancestor  as possible to help others find > your message. For example: if your query  concerns James ROBERT of Perth, > Australia be sure to include the full name  and location in your post. Many > search engines permit searches for full  names such as: "James ROBERT" or > perform Boolean searches for James NEAR  ROBERT, or James AND ROBERT, or > even "James ROBERT" AND Australia. Try  various combinations of search > criteria to find the maximum number of  posts. > 3) Make use of online databases for posting or uploading your family  tree. > Family Tree databases such as RootsWeb's _WorldConnect_ > (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?X4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdv=13011)   will always > have a search engine that finds the surnames included in your  tree and not > similarly-spelled extraneous words. After reading the above information, are > you having second thoughts  about your existing RootsWeb message board > posts? Here's an additional  tip: you can now edit (or delete) your own > posts on the boards. So, do a  search for your posts and fix errors in > surname entries, or remove  obsolete queries and post an updated message. > Don't let your queries be  like the fallen tree in the empty forest never to > be seen or heard from  again. Reprints Permission to reprint  articles from > RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically  stated otherwise, provided: > 1.  the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and > 2.  the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously > published in RootsWeb Review: 9 March 2011, Vol. 14, No. 3 > > ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to > the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to > your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from > http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Das: Thank you for posting that article to explain what some of us researcher have to go through when looking up ancestors, but the dedicated surname field is only as good as the Search Engine, and the worst one for me is the Atomic SE., The (3) three Surnames that give me the most trouble are. 1 )Mortimer especially from England because there is a location in England called Mortimer and ...........also all those with the given name Mortimer. 2 )Manuel which also produces written manuals as in books........... and 3 )Parent which always returns " the parents of " Now that you can edit your previous entries, it begs the other question I always had, which is are you able to change your E-mail address, ( as so many of us have done over the years ) so that someone reading an entry from say 1999 or 2005 can actual respond to your current addie. Edd Sinnett in Florida _________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:00 AM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young from RootswebReview, 9 March 2011 Genealogy Tip By _Joan Young_ (mailto:[email protected]) Are Your Genealogy Posts Getting Lost in the Forest? Everyone has considered the age-old question "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, does it make a sound?" Both sides of that issue can be debated with valid arguments. However, when it comes to family history research there can be no debate about the difficulty in posting queries or data that will help interested people find your posts. This is especially true when your message concerns ancestors with surnames (last names) that are also common words or given names (first names). When you are researching surnames such as FOREST, LANE, ROBINS, or ROBERT, make use of all available options at your disposal at the time you post the message, and also when searching for existing posts. If you are not careful with common-word surnames your message will be like the tree that falls in the forest and no one will see or hear it. Some pointers that may help you when posting and searching are: 1) Post your queries in places such as the RootsWeb/Ancestry _message boards_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?L4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdZ=12991) where the database offers a dedicated surname field. Enter only the surnames found in your query in the surname box. Enter the surnames in a manner that will enable proper indexing for future searches. If you enter: ROBERT(S) or LANE/LAINE your surnames may not be found in a search unless someone were to enter the names exactly as you wrote them which is unlikely. Enter the surnames and variants individually with a comma and space to separate them: LANE, LAINE, ROBERT, ROBERTS. Do not enter any characters or symbols, dashes or slashes, which may cause the searcher to miss your entries or may introduce non-surnames into the search field. The words "and" "or" "etc." and "family" a re not surnames and should not be entered into the surnames box. Properly entered surnames in a dedicated field will yield only surnames and no extraneous words in a search. While most researchers will perform a search to find your message, some people prefer to browse through all messages on a board scanning the posts for items of interest. Commas separating surnames make it easier for researchers who browse to find names they are seeking. Your VAN WINKLE ancestors might be mistaken for separate surnames VAN and WINKLE unless you make use of commas as delimiters. Surname box entries listed: LANE, VAN WINKLE, ROBERT, ROBERTS make it clear exactly which surnames are included in your message. Don't let your VAN WINKLEs sleep for another twenty years. 2) If you are posting your query or data in a database that has no dedicated surname search feature (such as the RootsWeb _mailing list archives_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search) ), be sure to include as much information about your ancestor as possible to help others find your message. For example: if your query concerns James ROBERT of Perth, Australia be sure to include the full name and location in your post. Many search engines permit searches for full names such as: "James ROBERT" or perform Boolean searches for James NEAR ROBERT, or James AND ROBERT, or even "James ROBERT" AND Australia. Try various combinations of search criteria to find the maximum number of posts. 3) Make use of online databases for posting or uploading your family tree. Family Tree databases such as RootsWeb's _WorldConnect_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?X4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdv=13011) will always have a search engine that finds the surnames included in your tree and not similarly-spelled extraneous words. After reading the above information, are you having second thoughts about your existing RootsWeb message board posts? Here's an additional tip: you can now edit (or delete) your own posts on the boards. So, do a search for your posts and fix errors in surname entries, or remove obsolete queries and post an updated message. Don't let your queries be like the fallen tree in the empty forest never to be seen or heard from again. 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My worst names for searching are POOLE, CAMBRIDGE and WAKEFIELD which brings up thousands of unrelated sites. I have tried so many things to get around this but nothing seems to work. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "edd73" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] [Irl-Dublin]Genealogy Tip by Joan Young fromRootswebReview, 9 March 2011 Hi Das: Thank you for posting that article to explain what some of us researcher have to go through when looking up ancestors, but the dedicated surname field is only as good as the Search Engine, and the worst one for me is the Atomic SE., The (3) three Surnames that give me the most trouble are. 1 )Mortimer especially from England because there is a location in England called Mortimer and ...........also all those with the given name Mortimer. 2 )Manuel which also produces written manuals as in books........... and 3 )Parent which always returns " the parents of " Now that you can edit your previous entries, it begs the other question I always had, which is are you able to change your E-mail address, ( as so many of us have done over the years ) so that someone reading an entry from say 1999 or 2005 can actual respond to your current addie. Edd Sinnett in Florida

Genealogy Tip By _Joan Young_ (mailto:[email protected]) Are Your Genealogy Posts Getting Lost in the Forest? Everyone has considered the age-old question "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, does it make a sound?" Both sides of that issue can be debated with valid arguments. However, when it comes to family history research there can be no debate about the difficulty in posting queries or data that will help interested people find your posts. This is especially true when your message concerns ancestors with surnames (last names) that are also common words or given names (first names). When you are researching surnames such as FOREST, LANE, ROBINS, or ROBERT, make use of all available options at your disposal at the time you post the message, and also when searching for existing posts. If you are not careful with common-word surnames your message will be like the tree that falls in the forest and no one will see or hear it. Some pointers that may help you when posting and searching are: 1) Post your queries in places such as the RootsWeb/Ancestry _message boards_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?L4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdZ=12991) where the database offers a dedicated surname field. Enter only the surnames found in your query in the surname box. Enter the surnames in a manner that will enable proper indexing for future searches. If you enter: ROBERT(S) or LANE/LAINE your surnames may not be found in a search unless someone were to enter the names exactly as you wrote them which is unlikely. Enter the surnames and variants individually with a comma and space to separate them: LANE, LAINE, ROBERT, ROBERTS. Do not enter any characters or symbols, dashes or slashes, which may cause the searcher to miss your entries or may introduce non-surnames into the search field. The words "and" "or" "etc." and "family" a re not surnames and should not be entered into the surnames box. Properly entered surnames in a dedicated field will yield only surnames and no extraneous words in a search. While most researchers will perform a search to find your message, some people prefer to browse through all messages on a board scanning the posts for items of interest. Commas separating surnames make it easier for researchers who browse to find names they are seeking. Your VAN WINKLE ancestors might be mistaken for separate surnames VAN and WINKLE unless you make use of commas as delimiters. Surname box entries listed: LANE, VAN WINKLE, ROBERT, ROBERTS make it clear exactly which surnames are included in your message. Don't let your VAN WINKLEs sleep for another twenty years. 2) If you are posting your query or data in a database that has no dedicated surname search feature (such as the RootsWeb _mailing list archives_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search) ), be sure to include as much information about your ancestor as possible to help others find your message. For example: if your query concerns James ROBERT of Perth, Australia be sure to include the full name and location in your post. Many search engines permit searches for full names such as: "James ROBERT" or perform Boolean searches for James NEAR ROBERT, or James AND ROBERT, or even "James ROBERT" AND Australia. Try various combinations of search criteria to find the maximum number of posts. 3) Make use of online databases for posting or uploading your family tree. Family Tree databases such as RootsWeb's _WorldConnect_ (http://link.rootsweb.com/u.d?X4GnlSPskvyok_8N6jUdv=13011) will always have a search engine that finds the surnames included in your tree and not similarly-spelled extraneous words. After reading the above information, are you having second thoughts about your existing RootsWeb message board posts? Here's an additional tip: you can now edit (or delete) your own posts on the boards. So, do a search for your posts and fix errors in surname entries, or remove obsolete queries and post an updated message. Don't let your queries be like the fallen tree in the empty forest never to be seen or heard from again. Reprints Permission to reprint articles from RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: 1. the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and 2. the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in RootsWeb Review: 9 March 2011, Vol. 14, No. 3

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