I don't mind paying for information and had a subscription to ancestry for several years. My problem was that when I tried to cancel my subscription, my visa continued to be debited..for several months. Emails and phone calls got nowhere. Thankfully my card expired and I finally could stop paying!   Ancestry should offer an option of paying for a predetermined period, and then it terminates.   Julie  --- On Wed, 27/4/11, sdholand <[email protected]> wrote: From: sdholand <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 27, April, 2011, 3:45 AM Thanks for the support of Ancestry.com.  Some want everything for free and in 30yrs of researching I have learned there is not always free.  The only thing that I get for free is my program that I keep my genealogy in.  It is called Personal Ancestral File-comes in 6 different languages and never cost a penny Just go on line and download and it is wonderful. Shirley [email protected];.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search Hi Andy Although I have no time for lost cousins myself I did wonder if the OP was mixing up Genesreunited and Lost Cousins? As to Ancestry taking funds without permission? put simply they don't When you sign up for a trial you give them permission to charge the card holder at the end of the trial period (whatever that may be) Surely anyone who gives their credit card details must realise the implications? I have been with Ancestry for some years and having tried most if not all available genealogy sites, consider Ancestry far and away the best, also the most cost effective Once a year Ancestry warn me a month in advance giving plenty of time to cancel should I wish to , they also have a freephone telephone number and an email address If people don't read the terms and conditions they can hardly blame someone else Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Margaret I strongly disagree with you about LostCousins. With LC you don't have to pay up front - just register, enter your people on the census (not just your direct ancestors - they obscure cousins get best results), then when you find matches you don't know about you pay the fee - which at £10 is tiny a fraction of Ancestry. Nor do LC extract funds without your permission. To lump LC and Ancestry together like that is plainly ridiculous. Andy No connection, just a very happy member who no longer pays a sub, who finds the LC newsletter informative, and who has made contacts through LC! ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3598 - Release Date: 04/26/11 ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List I'm with you Nivard, I have been with Ancestry UK/AU for years. They do send a email letting you know it's due again so you have time to cancel or you can ring them. I cancelled the UK/AU one, they did stop on the day, weeks later I wanted to join with the world Ancestry so I rang them on the free phone call to ask questions, have done it with some friends to make it cheaper which was fine with Ancestry. So it was done on the phone. The UK/Au one was with friends too, to make it cheaper. We have the one pass word of cause & logout each time when we have finished, so one of the friends can use when they want to. They are all the time putting more information online. We were also able to do the world Ancestry one when it was on a special at $239.40 au for the year. It was my mistake the girl did it by the month when I wanted by the year, it was cancelled & she changed it to the year. All of this was done on the phone. Jennette Gest Qld Aus

Hi Andy PAF has not been updated for a while but it still does all I need it to and will continue to do so I have used PAF for quite some time, never had a problem with it and will continue with it for the foreseeable future I will certainly not be using the online tree on familysearch There is no doubt that is their aim but I really can't see it working no more than the IGI patron entries did , like all online trees, there are to many number collectors and to few people who take the time to check what they have gathered is actually accurate or indeed connected to their own research in any great way Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > BTW I think I read the days of PAF are numbered as the new FamilySearch Trees facility is intended > to take over. > > Best Wishes, Andy.

Hopefully these two lists can help with questionable medical terms on documents. Rudy's List of Archaic Medical Terms http://www.antiquusmorbus.com/ Archaic medical terms: http://www.genealogy-quest.com/glossaries/diseases1.html Edd Sinnett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] Hereditory illness On death certificates Paralysis Agitans is Parkinsons, General Paralysis of the insane is third state of syphillis Eliz On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Margaret Doyle <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, just to mention that some illness+disabilities had different labels in > the past. A lot of them would have just been labelled under an umbrella. > For example, Parkinsons, Cerebral Palsy or anything resembling spacticity > was simply called Paralysis. (not sure of the spellings). Because the > medical profession has moved forward, ( I sometimes wonder), illness's > have been individualised. My guess would be that those with EDS would have > been diagnosed with club foot in the 18th+19th centuries, if they had the > vascular type. > Maggie > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and > do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the > SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No not asked for Shirley but interesting all the same I have no similar trait or genetic pass down that I am aware of but can see why people follow the route they do to find out more on the subject Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Nivard: I use as much free as possible. Just do not expect all to be free > and there are so many generous and gracious people also researching that are > so helpful. These are the ones on front lines for all os us. I live in USA > and am so limited with Irish, Scotland and England research. Have some > family in New Zealand, however, they have not been too interested. Suppose > after 106yrs they wonder why I am searching for them.

You could start a thread on boards.ie. Recently there has been talk of trading standards/consumer rights overseeing complaints about on-line holidays etc also. Maggie

Hi Julie I can understand your frustration to a point But I repeat , the free offer does *not* require credit card details If it requires you to enter credit card details it means that either the offer if over or the item you are looking for is not part of the free offer And of course its a marketing ploy, what would you expect from any company these days ? Thats why they do free offers and trials, in the hope that you subscribe If you sign up for emails from any company and you don't explicitly say you do *not* want emails from all and sundry (partners they call them) you will be bombarded If there are any look ups I can help with please just ask I have the UK subscription , obviously if its for a non Irish look up then do so offlist There were certainly problems with Ancestry some years ago, but I have not heard of any in recent years Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) I am infuriated by ancestry because they offered two 'free trials' over the weekend, one to search military files (Anzac) and one to search marriages (Royal Wedding). I tried both. Registered, which produced a unique username of about 20 letters & numbers, and a password which I used to login. I searched my ancestors and found an item for each, that I could see, but I already had found them from our War Memorial Museum, which is now available free on line. There was one other listing which I tried to access, which took me through to the 'free

Hi, just to mention that some illness+disabilities had different labels in the past. A lot of them would have just been labelled under an umbrella. For example, Parkinsons, Cerebral Palsy or anything resembling spacticity was simply called Paralysis. (not sure of the spellings). Because the medical profession has moved forward, ( I sometimes wonder), illness's have been individualised. My guess would be that those with EDS would have been diagnosed with club foot in the 18th+19th centuries, if they had the vascular type. Maggie

No, it came with a code, but you couldn't access info without entering your credit card. I believe this is deceptive.   Julie --- On Tue, 26/4/11, margaret pavljuk <[email protected]> wrote: From: margaret pavljuk <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 26, April, 2011, 4:12 PM was there a special code with it? i couldnt get it to work from adelaide, unless it finished midnight sunday. this might explain it. marg --- On Sat, 23/4/11, Janet Gregurke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Janet Gregurke <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search To: [email protected] Received: Saturday, 23 April, 2011, 8:24 PM   Hi every one and a happy Easter to you all. In todays Melbourne Herald Sun newspaper is an announcement that says Records for free. More than 40 million military records will be aqvailabel fro free at ancestry.com.au this Anzac weekend. The website is encourageing Australians to open its collection of histroric service records from Australia, UK, Canada and the US. The public can access records of enlistment dates, battles fought, performance on the field, medals awarded and for those who did not return, final resting places. The records date back to 1793 and can give people and insight into their miltitary past and their ancestors achievments in battle. The records can be acessed simply by registering on the site and entering an ancestors name. I hope this may be of use to some of you, and I cant see why it wouldnt work for people overseas serching for relatives. Good luck Janet Gregurke in Australia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit the Fibromyalgia Zone today! Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. __,_._,___                           ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening I couldn't help answering the e mail in question re inherited problems .My family has passed down a rare syndrome called Ehlers Danlos Syndrome this got me started on research. I have found it compulsive to keep going. I have found it affects both male and female. Also in my family more girls die in infancy or early teens than boys which is not usual. I have a case that could be connected in Fermoy of the daughter of John & Caroline Brick he was a soldier stationed their daughter died about three but as it was before 1864 there won't be a death cert will there. John and his daughter are buried a Fermoy ,Caroline (my line) went on to marry again she had another daughter who sadly died at 15 and she herself died early as well .I hope I haven't bored you. Regards Beverley

Hi Nivard I basically agree with you on Ancestry. They did have a reputation for sneaking the renewals past you, but that was some years back. I've never had a problem myself (unlike some ISPs I could mention!) And of course, the data they have is invaluable. What is surprising is how much of their information is actually free, not counting the information you can get from just looking at the indices. Where would we be without folks like them. BTW I think I read the days of PAF are numbered as the new FamilySearch Trees facility is intended to take over. Best Wishes, Andy.

On death certificates Paralysis Agitans is Parkinsons, General Paralysis of the insane is third state of syphillis Eliz On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Margaret Doyle <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, just to mention that some illness+disabilities had different labels in the past. A lot of them would have just been labelled under an umbrella. For example, Parkinsons, Cerebral Palsy or anything resembling spacticity was simply called Paralysis. (not sure of the spellings). Because the medical profession has moved forward, ( I sometimes wonder), illness's have been individualised. My guess would be that those with EDS would have been diagnosed with club foot in the 18th+19th centuries, if they had the vascular type. > Maggie > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Shirley I have to agree with you on that one , I use PAF and have done for some years now , I have not found anything better as yet But I am all for getting as much information for free as you can, and there is a huge amount you can get for free Many libraries have Ancestry worldwide which can be used in the library, the LDS also have it and may have findmypast as well , all free Then there are the newspapers online, again many libraries have free access and also have access from home using your library card number, all Australian residents also get free access Then there are the free trials and open weeks by certain organisations from time to time The IGI, familysearch, CWGC, freebmd, freereg, freecen , the list is a long one But at the end of the day you have to pay for some if you want the information there and then However there is much you can do without paying a penny and I am not against that at all Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Thanks for the support of Ancestry.com. Some want everything for free and in 30yrs of researching I have learned there is not always free. The only thing that I get for free is my program that I keep my genealogy in. It is called Personal Ancestral File-comes in 6 different languages and never cost a penny Just go on line and download and it is wonderful. Shirley

I wholeheartedly agree. I find PAF a very user-friendly program. Also I won't be using their online tree for the same reasons. June Keating Carterton New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search Hi Andy PAF has not been updated for a while but it still does all I need it to and will continue to do so I have used PAF for quite some time, never had a problem with it and will continue with it for the foreseeable future I will certainly not be using the online tree on familysearch There is no doubt that is their aim but I really can't see it working no more than the IGI patron entries did , like all online trees, there are to many number collectors and to few people who take the time to check what they have gathered is actually accurate or indeed connected to their own research in any great way Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Andy Although I have no time for lost cousins myself I did wonder if the OP was mixing up Genesreunited and Lost Cousins? As to Ancestry taking funds without permission? put simply they don't When you sign up for a trial you give them permission to charge the card holder at the end of the trial period (whatever that may be) Surely anyone who gives their credit card details must realise the implications? I have been with Ancestry for some years and having tried most if not all available genealogy sites, consider Ancestry far and away the best, also the most cost effective Once a year Ancestry warn me a month in advance giving plenty of time to cancel should I wish to , they also have a freephone telephone number and an email address If people don't read the terms and conditions they can hardly blame someone else Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Margaret I strongly disagree with you about LostCousins. With LC you don't have to pay up front - just register, enter your people on the census (not just your direct ancestors - they obscure cousins get best results), then when you find matches you don't know about you pay the fee - which at £10 is tiny a fraction of Ancestry. Nor do LC extract funds without your permission. To lump LC and Ancestry together like that is plainly ridiculous. Andy No connection, just a very happy member who no longer pays a sub, who finds the LC newsletter informative, and who has made contacts through LC!

Can you tell me please how and where did they catch a ferry to pick up a ship sailing from Liverpool to Australia c1856-1857, the person we are researching was from Co Clare Ireland. Cheers Janice/Thonda

Your Card should have stopped it, call them and not ancestry <G> and you wouldn't have been out so much money <G> That said I have been a member there for 11 years sometimes with only basic mostly with a World sub and they manage to get the right amount out <G> Eliz On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Julie Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't mind paying for information and had a subscription to ancestry for several years. My problem was that when I tried to cancel my subscription, my visa continued to be debited..for several months. Emails and phone calls got nowhere. Thankfully my card expired and I finally could stop paying! > > Ancestry should offer an option of paying for a predetermined period, and then it terminates. > > Julie > > --- On Wed, 27/4/11, sdholand <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: sdholand <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, 27, April, 2011, 3:45 AM > > > Thanks for the support of Ancestry.com.  Some want everything for free and > in 30yrs of researching I have learned there is not always free.  The only > thing that I get for free is my program that I keep my genealogy in.  It is > called Personal Ancestral File-comes in 6 different languages and never cost > a penny Just go on line and download and it is wonderful. > > Shirley > [email protected];.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search > > > Hi Andy > > Although I have no time for lost cousins myself I did wonder if the OP was > mixing up Genesreunited > and Lost Cousins? > > As to Ancestry taking funds without permission? put simply they don't > > When you sign up for a trial you give them permission to charge the card > holder at the end of the > trial period (whatever that may be) > > Surely anyone who gives their credit card details must realise the > implications? > > I have been with Ancestry for some years and having tried most if not all > available genealogy sites, > consider Ancestry far and away the best, also the most cost effective > > Once a year Ancestry warn me a month in advance giving plenty of time to > cancel should I wish to , > they also have a freephone telephone number and an email address > > If people don't read the terms and conditions they can hardly blame someone > else > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > Margaret > > I strongly disagree with you about LostCousins. With LC you don't have to > pay up front - just > register, enter your people on the census (not just your direct ancestors - > they obscure cousins get > best results), then when you find matches you don't know about you pay the > fee - which at £10 is > tiny a fraction of Ancestry. Nor do LC extract funds without your > permission. > > To lump LC and Ancestry together like that is plainly ridiculous. > > Andy > No connection, just a very happy member who no longer pays a sub, who finds > the LC newsletter > informative, and who has made contacts through LC! > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and > do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the > SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3598 - Release Date: 04/26/11 > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE  for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Margaret I strongly disagree with you about LostCousins. With LC you don't have to pay up front - just register, enter your people on the census (not just your direct ancestors - they obscure cousins get best results), then when you find matches you don't know about you pay the fee - which at £10 is tiny a fraction of Ancestry. Nor do LC extract funds without your permission. To lump LC and Ancestry together like that is plainly ridiculous. Andy No connection, just a very happy member who no longer pays a sub, who finds the LC newsletter informative, and who has made contacts through LC! At 11:26 26/04/2011, margaret pavljuk <[email protected]> wrote: >that makes perfect scence julie, a few weeks ago the sunday mail here in adelaide had a special offer for a month free use on ancestry.uk, but you had to also put your credit card details in, I thought id give it a go i was told to cancel before the 30 days was up. So went to do that to day, and guess what? they had automatically set the site to take over $400 out for a world class 12 month subscriptiopn~~~~ not a uk one worth $179..... They really are deceptive and they wonder why people get sceptical. And in trying to use it, ive not recieved one email contact from any that i wrote to, and ive not found any new information that i didnt already get elsewhere!!!! So i dont think the site is worth it. well thats my conclusion. AND my pet hate is all that American stuff you have to wade through. When all i want is UK. AGGHHHH/ As for Australian. well im annoyed that our own find my past site hasnt got that info, and we can get more up to date stuff if we go to the state lib! ary. Live and learn. Lost cousins and Ancestry in my eyes not worth the money they ask. margaret in Adelaide Aus --- On Tue, 26/4/11, Julie Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: From: Julie Boyd <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search To: [email protected] Received: Tuesday, 26 April, 2011, 5:57 PM No, it came with a code, but you couldn't access info without entering your credit card. I believe this is deceptive.  Julie --- On Tue, 26/4/11, margaret pavljuk <[email protected]> wrote: From: margaret pavljuk <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 26, April, 2011, 4:12 PM was there a special code with it? i couldnt get it to work from adelaide, unless it finished midnight sunday. this might explain it. marg --- On Sat, 23/4/11, Janet Gregurke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Janet Gregurke <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-D! UBLIN] free ancestry.com search To: [email protected] Re! ceived: Saturday, 23 April, 2011, 8:24 PM  Hi every one and a happy Easter to you all. In todays Melbourne Herald Sun newspaper is an announcement that says Records for free. More than 40 million military records will be aqvailabel fro free at ancestry.com.au this Anzac weekend. The website is encourageing Australians to open its collection of histroric service records from Australia, UK, Canada and the US. The public can access records of enlistment dates, battles fought, performance on the field, medals awarded and for those who did not return, final resting places. The records date back to 1793 and can give people and insight into their miltitary past and their ancestors achievments in battle. The records can be acessed simply by registering on the site and entering an ancestors name. I hope this may be of use to some of you, and I cant see why it wouldnt work for people overseas serching for relatives. 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Nivard: I use as much free as possible. Just do not expect all to be free and there are so many generous and gracious people also researching that are so helpful. These are the ones on front lines for all os us. I live in USA and am so limited with Irish, Scotland and England research. Have some family in New Zealand, however, they have not been too interested. Suppose after 106yrs they wonder why I am searching for them. Joseph Holland b 1839 died 1900 at age 60 yrs.in Brelfast with Alzheimer's and heart problems just thought they all needed to know where the disease of Alzheimer's came from as it is hereditary. I married the oldest son John S Holland, Jr. of John S Holland who was the s/o Fred Holland who came to.USA 1904. My husband died 1999, age 68, from Alzheimer's with complications of cancer and his father also had Alzheimer's and died with heart attack 1971 at age 61. None of the Holland family had ever lived to be 68yrs of age. They all died before age 62 from other causes. Fred Holland had a brother Joseph Anderson Holland who had a dau Hannah Patricia Holland who married John Gordon Lewis. They have a g son who now has Alzheimer's and had I not met his niece, Fiona Lewis , on line and told her about Jack they would have wondered what it was and where it came from. There is 2 types of Alzheimer's-Juvenile which strikes around age 40 to 65 and Adult that strikes after 65. The Holland family had Juvenile Alzheimer's You did not ask for this just giving why I got interested in genealogy in Ireland, Scotland and England. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-DUBLIN] free ancestry.com search > Hi Shirley > > I have to agree with you on that one , I use PAF and have done for some > years now , I have not found > anything better as yet > > But I am all for getting as much information for free as you can, and > there is a huge amount you can > get for free > > Many libraries have Ancestry worldwide which can be used in the library, > the LDS also have it and > may have findmypast as well , all free > > Then there are the newspapers online, again many libraries have free > access and also have access > from home using your library card number, all Australian residents also > get free access > > Then there are the free trials and open weeks by certain organisations > from time to time > > The IGI, familysearch, CWGC, freebmd, freereg, freecen , the list is a > long one > > But at the end of the day you have to pay for some if you want the > information there and then > > However there is much you can do without paying a penny and I am not > against that at all > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > Thanks for the support of Ancestry.com. Some want everything for free and > in 30yrs of researching I have learned there is not always free. The only > thing that I get for free is my program that I keep my genealogy in. It > is > called Personal Ancestral File-comes in 6 different languages and never > cost > a penny Just go on line and download and it is wonderful. > > Shirley > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- Do any of you ever get to the bottom of this mail?, and > do you remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the > SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3598 - Release Date: 04/26/11 >

Hi Margaret & Julie Can I correct one or two things please First the site that is offering free access is the Australian one Ancestry.com.au There is *no* code, neither is it necessary to give credit card details I suggest you may have tried via another Countries site? (US or UK?) Although I subscribe to the UK site, I had an account with the Aussie Ancestry site some time back for another free offer they had, entering that account again gave me free access to the Military records as advertised I have *never* entered credit card details on that account or been asked to If you try via the UK or USA sites they may ask for credit card details as its not the Australian site (Either way you the terms and conditions state you will be charged at the end of a 14 day trial, which is what you are doing when joining from other than the Aussie site) Its subjective I know and much depends upon your needs but Ancestry are far and away the best Genealogy site on the market IMHO The free offer on the Aussie site is still running, I used it this morning, and ends at the end of the 26th (presumably in Aussie time) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS as to the US data just enter the tick for exact searches only and UK and Ireland only > that makes perfect scence julie, > a few weeks ago the sunday mail here in adelaide had a special offer for a month free use on > ancestry.uk, but you had to also put your credit card details in, I thought id give it a go i was > told to cancel before the 30 days was up. > So went to do that to day, and guess what? > they had automatically set the site to take over $400 out for a world class 12 month > subscriptiopn~~~~ not a uk one worth $179..... > They really are deceptive and they wonder why people get sceptical. > And in trying to use it, ive not recieved one email contact from any that i wrote to, and ive not > found any new information that i didnt already get elsewhere!!!! > So i dont think the site is worth it. well thats my conclusion. > AND my pet hate is all that American stuff you have to wade through. When all i want is UK. > AGGHHHH/ > As for Australian. well im annoyed that our own find my past site hasnt got that info, and we can > get more up to date stuff if we go to the state libary. > Live and learn. > Lost cousins and Ancestry in my eyes not worth the money they ask. > margaret in Adelaide Aus