Details of a new genealogy ezine, courtesy of the Kerry & Clare lists. Colette From: secretary@clareroots.org To: secretary@clareroots.org Subject: FW: New Genealogy eZine Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:34:48 +0100 From: Clara Hoyne [mailto:secretary@clareroots.org] Sent: 11 July 2012 22:26 Subject: New Genealogy eZine A new ezine fresh off the press! Click on the link below to read anew 62 page magazine. Thank you Fiona! from the Kerry list: Irish genealogy eZine http://flipflashpages.uniflip.com/3/71043/154085/pub/

Please NOTE: Yahoo email has been hacked and 450,000 passwords were posted on-line.... "(CNN) -- Hackers posted online what they say is login information for more than 450,000 Yahoo users. The hack, which of course was conducted anonymously, was meant to be a warning, according to the Web page where the documents were dumped." More Yes, assume the worst and if you have a Yahoo account, Please, please, please change your password right now. Janet

http://www.irishmethodist.org/about/genealogy.php bit lonely just one link will try to do better cara

"An US-based ancestry search service has said it will run its interntional operations from Dublin from next September with the promise of creating up to 35 jobs within two years... That number will include staff working within management and finance functions as well as website developers and member service agents...More http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0711/ancestry-com-pledges-up-to-50-jobs.html

Ancestry are moving some of their support to Dublin - at the moment they do 24 hours in Provo, Utah. By moving some to Dublin they will share the hours. I'm sure there are tax reasons as well. Hilda In a message dated 7/7/2012 4:49:07 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, user917826@aol.com writes: Perhaps this means that Ancestry intends to become a "major player" in getting Irish records consolidated and online??? Interesting!!! Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> To: irl-wicklow <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com>; irl-dublin <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 2:36 am Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Off-Topic: Ancestry comes to Ireland "THE world's biggest, online genealogy firm ancestry.com is relocating its world headquarters to Dublin city centre from Provo, Utah. The move will initially create more than 100 new jobs in the fields of marketing, development, financial and accounting as well as the operations global call centre in an investment worth millions.... ..."We are thrilled to be bringing ancestry.com to Ireland, an obvious place of importance for those tracing their ancestors. We will be making a full announcement of the total worth of this investment and further details about our plans in the months ahead."...More http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/worlds-largest-genealogy-website-mo ves-to-dublin-3161152.html Janet ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"THE world's biggest, online genealogy firm ancestry.com is relocating its world headquarters to Dublin city centre from Provo, Utah. The move will initially create more than 100 new jobs in the fields of marketing, development, financial and accounting as well as the operations global call centre in an investment worth millions.... ..."We are thrilled to be bringing ancestry.com to Ireland, an obvious place of importance for those tracing their ancestors. We will be making a full announcement of the total worth of this investment and further details about our plans in the months ahead."...More http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/worlds-largest-genealogy-website-moves-to-dublin-3161152.html Janet

Perhaps this means that Ancestry intends to become a "major player" in getting Irish records consolidated and online??? Interesting!!! Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> To: irl-wicklow <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com>; irl-dublin <irl-dublin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 2:36 am Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Off-Topic: Ancestry comes to Ireland "THE world's biggest, online genealogy firm ancestry.com is relocating its world headquarters to Dublin city centre from Provo, Utah. The move will initially create more than 100 new jobs in the fields of marketing, development, financial and accounting as well as the operations global call centre in an investment worth millions.... ..."We are thrilled to be bringing ancestry.com to Ireland, an obvious place of importance for those tracing their ancestors. We will be making a full announcement of the total worth of this investment and further details about our plans in the months ahead."...More http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/worlds-largest-genealogy-website-moves-to-dublin-3161152.html Janet ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marriage (banns) - banni, proclamationes, denuntiationes Sorry forgot to add this in also Cheers C

An impediment is some fact or condition that prevents a person from marrying validly (c. 1073). If a marriage should be contracted without a dispensation from an impediment, it is invalid. Dispensations reserved to the Holy See. When either party has incurred the canonical crime arising from the intentional killing of a spouse (c. 1090.) The canonical crime exists in law now only when a spouse has been killed in order to clear the way for a new marriage Reserved to the local Bishop. In the following cases, requests for dispensations are addressed to the Bishop of Diocese of residence of the Catholic party, or his delegates, even if the wedding is celebrated in another diocese. If both are Catholics the request may be addressed to the bishop of either party. a. Age (When the groom has not completed his 16th year or the bride her 14th) b. Disparity of Cult (a Catholic and a non-baptized person). c. Affinity (when, for example, a man would want to marry anyone related to his deceased wife by blood in the direct line). d. Consanguinity (when, for example, a man wishes to marry a blood relative). This is never given in any degree of the direct line. That is, a dispensation is never given for a man to marry his mother or his daughter. It is never given in cases involving, for example, a man who would want to marry his sister, or aunt or niece. It is rarely and only for the most serious reasons given in cases involving what we usually call "first cousins". It would almost never be given in any case for which the state would not issue a license. Public Propriety: parent or sibling of common law, concubinage or of marriages not recognized by the Catholic Church. It extends to all those related by blood to the "spouse" in the first degree of the direct line. For example, a man could not marry his civil spouse's mother or daughter after he divorced his civil spouse even if the Church never recognized the first marriage; Adoption: parent or sibling by legal adoption (when, for example, a boy is adopted, he cannot later marry his adopted mother or grandmother or any of the natural children of his adopted parents). Canonical Form (When the couple wants to have the wedding take place before the non-Catholic's minister, rabbi, etc.). Sufficient Reasons for Permissions/Dispensations Permission for Mixed Religion can be granted by deacon/priest in the Diocese . Request for marriage dispensations can be sought by the priest or deacon preparing the couple. There must always be sufficient reason for granting a dispensation and must include the spiritual welfare of the parties.

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/directories/dublin-dir1801e.txt Replace the letter after 1801 with the letter of the surname you want.   Regards   Julie

Hello scholars, I've been working in the http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie database and have just discovered that images of the church register are available for some of the records I've found. At least some of them from St. Mary, Pro Cathedral, in Dublin city are in Latin. It's been many, many moons since I studied Latin, so I want your help translating the page and column headings in the images. One record I'm viewing is at this URL: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/st.mary%27s-pro-cath_mf_1881-1904_ma_0043.pdf Using the Google Latin-to-English translator, here's what I've come up with. Please correct me where I'm wrong. Page Heading (I really need help here): INFRASCRIPTI SPONSI ANNO DOMINI 1863, JUXTA RITUM S.R. ECCLESIAE MATRIMONIO CONJUNCTI SUNT AB INFRASCRIPTO PAROCHO VEL VICARIO THE UNDERSIGNED SPOUSE IN THE YEAR 1863, ACCORDING TO THE S.R. CHURCH MARRIAGE WERE MARRIED BY THE PASTOR OR VICAR Column Headings: Nomina Sponsorum: Names of Spouses Cognomina: Surnames Eorum Residentia: Their Residence (or is it Residences, plural?) Nomina Parentum: Names of parents Eorum Residentia: Their Residence (or is it Residences, plural?) Denuntiationes: Publications (What does this mean in a Roman Catholic context?) Impedimentum: Obstacle (What does this mean in a Roman Catholic context?) Die Mensis: Day of the Month Nomen Parochival Vicarii: Parochival Name of Vicar (or is it Vicars, plural?) Testes Adfuerunt: Witnesses Present Eorum Residentia: Their Residence (or is it Residences, plural?) Observanda, si quae sint: e.g., si quis ex sponsis fuerit conversus ad fidem, vel antea matrimonio conjunctus, etc.: Observed, if there are any: e.g., if any of the spouses has been converted to the faith, or previously married, etc. Thanks for any help you can give. PJ, Texas

Hello Nivard Hope this finds you well!! Thanks for your reply also on the probate issue. I think we have established now that Robert Woodworth (Woodward) did die in Bristol (Workhouse). I just wanted to ask you in reference to the marriage you found on Wynnsfred Woodworth and Ann Roland, is there anyway to find out what demonination this was. I've just been told that Ann Roland was protestant. Still no luck findinging baptisms of Robert Woodworth/Woodward's children in Dublin though, I have an exact date for one of his son's births too, maybe these records will become available one day. Kind regards Dianna

This link might be of interest to anybody who is interested in the above subject. http://www.eneclann.ie/legal-title-probate/?utm_source=Eneclann+Newsletter&utm_campaign=ee9dd33310-220412_Eneclann_Newsletter&utm_medium=email Colette

HI Cara Thanks for your reply, kind regards Dianna

All of the original wills and administrations in the Public record Office were destroyed in 1922.. along with almost all of the Will and Grant Books into which they had been transcribed. The indexes to wills and administration bonds were not destroyed although a number were badly damaged and these are available at the National Archives Dublin. Sorry Cara -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dianna charles Sent: 01 July 2012 12:24 To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Probate Records Hi Everyone Could someone please let me know where I could find a possible Will/Probate record for a Robert WOODWORTH he was born in Dublin around 1784, appears on the 1841 and 1851 Census in Bristol (UK). He was listed as a widower on the census, he was an engineer. Father of Rachel, Winred, Joshua, Robert all born in Dublin. I'm unable to find him on the 1861 Census for Bristol and I cannot locate a death for him in England so I am wondering did he go back to Ireland and perhaps stay there. Perhaps he is buried in Dublin (or somewhere around there) with his wife. I am at the moment trying to connect up my Rosetta BRYNE with Robert WOODWORTH. Any help is very much appreciated. Kind regards Dianna ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone Could someone please let me know where I could find a possible Will/Probate record for a Robert WOODWORTH he was born in Dublin around 1784, appears on the 1841 and 1851 Census in Bristol (UK). He was listed as a widower on the census, he was an engineer. Father of Rachel, Winred, Joshua, Robert all born in Dublin. I'm unable to find him on the 1861 Census for Bristol and I cannot locate a death for him in England so I am wondering did he go back to Ireland and perhaps stay there. Perhaps he is buried in Dublin (or somewhere around there) with his wife. I am at the moment trying to connect up my Rosetta BRYNE with Robert WOODWORTH. Any help is very much appreciated. Kind regards Dianna

Hi, I am still trying to knock down a brick wall with my HENSHALL family, trying to find the mother of Eleanor HENSHALL, Eleanor was born c 1760 in Dublin, her father was James HENSHALL, and she married a William SAUNDERS on the 11th August 1780 in Dublin. James HENSHALL belonged to the Finglas Church, occupation Printer and Linen Merchant. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rita (South Africa)

Hi, I have the marriage of Edmund BRADWELL to Margaret MAHON at St. Peter’s Dublin 20 September 1825, Edmund BRADWELL was a Theatrical Artist (Painter), I am trying to find the parents of Margaret MAHON, I believe they may be John Mahon, occupation Paper Stainer, which fits in with Edmund BRADWELL’s occuation, and Margaret LYONS, as I have found the marriage of a John MAHON to a Margaret LYONS on the 15th April 1805 at St. Peter’s church, Dublin. I have them on the 1841 census as living in England, and that their daughter Margaret was actually born in Oxford. Anyone researching Mahon or Lyons I would be grateful for any information. thank you Rita (South Africa)

Which is the formal announcement of intention to marry was socially unacceptable in many areas *The first Marriage by Banns in this neighbourhood for many years took place at Blessington on the 1st January 1824 May people who cannot procure a licence preferring to be married by unauthorised clergymen rather tha submit to have the banns published* Dublin Morning Post 8th January 1824 Banns were obliged to be read for strangers, soldiers and those of no fixed abode Cheers C

Hi Cara, Thanks for sharing these lists Regards Marion Sent from Marion's IPad On 28/06/2012, at 9:03 AM, "Cara" <cara_links@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > Any idea of dates for these lists, Cara? > > Colette > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County > Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ****************************** > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message