I should have marked this as forwarded from Deirdra; Admin snafu. Regards, Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Grant" <denis.grant@sympatico.ca> To: <IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Moses MURPHY and family circa 1800-1850, Cork City > > There is a fairly large 'gap' in dates of births an other logical things > during the 1800's. > > It was only in 1752 that England adopted what the rest of the world already > had done. > > This was the Gregorian Calendar. Pope Gregory XIII ordered that 10 days be > dropped out of > the calendar, thus restoring the equinox to it's accustomed date, March 21. > > It's a long and hard to digest, chapter in "Searching for Your Ancestors; > The how and why of > Genealogy". > > To make a long story short.............England, after all other countries > had already done, finally said > Ok, today is September 2, tomorrow will be September 14! (Leave it to > them......) > It caused riots and the like all over the UK. However, it put the equinox > back in it's correct > place. > > Therefore, many dates are 'take your pick' during that time period. From > what I have read, it took > a good while for EVERYONE to adopt the changes. This also included > Ireland. > So, for about 80 years after > 1752, your best guess at someone's birth date is 'within 10 days forward or > backward' from the date the > paperwork states. So, don't get yourself crazy about 'exact' anything. > > Hope this helps someone. > > Deirdra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wdebmurphy@att.net> > To: <IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:53 PM > Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Moses MURPHY and family circa 1800-1850, Cork City > > > > There was once a fine fellow named Moses-----Moses MURPHY-----who, > despite > > his > > biblical name, alas, went astray. > > He was arrested in Cork City for larceny of lead (the metal) in 1848. > (During > > the famine ----- or is that not an adequate excuse?) He may have lived > in > > Great George's Street at the time. > > After 3 years in prison, he was transported in July 1851 to Tasmania > where, > > after some years, he died. > > The public records say that he was 40 years old when he was arrested, 3 > July > > 1848, which, if literally accurate, suggests a birthdate between 4 July > 1807 > > and 2 July 1809. (Did I get that right?) > > The record of his arrival in Tasmania on 31 October 1851 say that his > wife > (no > > name shown) had been dead for 5 years (1846?) and that his 2 children > were > in > > the Cork Poor Union. That record listed his age as 44, which suggests a > > birthdate between 3 July and 31 October 1807. (??) > > However, his death record in Tasmania (4 November 1863) lists age as 60 > (born > > 1803?). So his birthdate seems afloat between 1803 and 1809. > > As fetching as it is, Moses MURPHY seems not to be an everyday name. My > > interest in this showy-named felon stems from the possibility that he's > the > > daddy of my great-grandfather, Richard Francis MURPHY, who, at his > marriage in > > London in 1862, said that his father was Moses, a carpenter, and who said > in > > the 1871 British Census that he (Richard) was born in Cork. Was Richard > one of > > the two children left in the Cork Poor Union? > > I'm sure that one of you wise and knowing listers has that answer right > at > your > > fingertips! > > Bill Murphy, Southampton, New York, USA > > > > > > > > > >