Hello all, As it's been a while I'm reposting my surnames. Please get in touch if you would like more details. AHERN ?Cork City c1850-1900 BRODERICK 1800-1850 COLLINS Drimoleague 1830-1890 DEMPSEY Drimoleague 1850-1900 DESMOND Cork City 1850-now FITZGERALD Cork City 1850-1900 MORRISSEY Cork City 1880-1930s O'BRIEN Cork City 1880-1930s SPILLANE Cork City 1850-1900 Regards Michelle Desmond Christchurch, New Zealand

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Access to Irish Vital Records Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:46:36 -0500 From: Dennis Ahern <ahern@world.std.com> To: Ahern email list: ; Some of you may recall taking part in a petition drive a couple of years ago having to do with improving access to records at the General Register Office in Dublin. The petition was circulated at the behest of the Council of Irish Genealogical Organizations, but the results were never widely made public. The petition, and the customer comments were presented to selected ministers in the relevant departments, but not given wide release at the time in hopes that direct persuasion would have the desired effect. Alas, not only has the situation not gotten better, it has gotten worse, and is due to get a LOT worse yet if proposed legislation is allowed to go through. One of the provisions of the proposed legislation is the removal of public access to original birth, death and marriage records in the superintendent registrar's offices around the country. It's not clear but what the new law might also withdraw permission for use of microfilm copies of these records at LDS Libraries around the world. But what bodes most ill for future genealogists is that records will be identified by a national identity number which will allow government departments to share information and link data on an individual without the need for identifying details. A death record, for example, would exclude information such as the deceased's place of birth, parents' names, spouse's name, or in the case of a married woman, maiden name. The new version of the death record will, however, include the "occupation" of spouse or parents. It doesn't matter to the Irish government what your grandfather's name was, just what he did for a living! Seriously folks, this is not an April Fool's joke. Please take a look at http://world.std.com/~ahern/CIGOrept.htm and consider writing to The Irish Times, and other Irish and Irish-American papers to call attention to this issue. Communicate your concerns to the relevant government ministers. Irish genealogists face enough hurdles as it is. Don't let them make it even worse. Dennis Ahern Acton, Mass. USA ahern@world.std.com

O'Connor Any info appreciated on this surname, thanks, Ainslee http://ainslee.fourdegrees.com/

Reseaching Thomas Worthington born 1725 - 1726 co. Cork, married Ann 1750. Son William Christened Macroom parish 1754? Also reseaching Edward & Jane Worthington married 1760 Cloyne, lived on Castle street, Cork City, till 1784. Also: Thomas Worthenton who married Elizabeth Reeves 1717 Cloyne. And: William Worthington who married Dorthy Howard 1713, Cloyne. objwbook@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

Reseaching Thomas Worthington born 1725 - 1726 co. Cork, married Ann 1750. Son William Christened Macroom parish 1754? Also reseaching Edward & Jane Worthington married 1760 Cloyne, lived on Castle street, Cork City, till 1784. Also: Thomas Worthenton who married Elizabeth Reeves 1717 Cloyne. And: William Worthington who married Dorthy Howard 1713, Cloyne. objwbook@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

Old photo albums "found" on Ford & Nagle site: DAILEY, Melvina Bullock; taken by Anderson and Kepler, Schoolcraft, Mi.; found Schoolcraft, Mi. 08 Feb 1998 DAILEY, Rose; taken by Leas Photographer, Peru, Ind.; found 28 Nov 1998 Peru, Ind. DALLY, Lane, taken by N.W. Wineland, Centerburg, Ohio; he was b. Feb 1842; found Lawrenceburg, Ind. 08 Dec 1996 http://my.erinet.com/~fordnag/PhotosDG.htm

Hi Sharon, Forde's Pub is still there at the lower end of Barrack Street and I believe is still owned by the Forde family. A short distance away on French's Quay there is a firm of undertakers named Forde. I don't know if there is a connection. The biggest firm of undertakers in Cork are O'Connors. Regards, Brendan Jones. ----- Original Message ----- From: SHARON DAVAGE To: IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: FORDE and REGAN,undertakers? My Great Grandparents were John Forde and Ellen Regan. Ellen died about 1927 of TB aged in her thirties leving her children to be brought up by her sister, Molly. Her family were connected to the undertaking business and the O Connells. One of John and Ellen Fordes daughters ran a pub in Barrack Street, Cork.They were catholics. Hoping someone has a connection, Sharon, Hampshire, England

My Great Grandparents were John Forde and Ellen Regan. Ellen died about 1927 of TB aged in her thirties leving her children to be brought up by her sister, Molly. Her family were connected to the undertaking business and the O Connells. One of John and Ellen Fordes daughters ran a pub in Barrack Street, Cork.They were catholics. Hoping someone has a connection, Sharon, Hampshire, England

Greetings: Will it be appropriate to share our favorite Irish toasts for the upcoming celebration of St. Patrick? Hope so. Richard Daly Reddick At 03:00 PM 3/11/02 -0700, you wrote: >IRL-CORK-CITY-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 13

Hi Barb, With regard to'Mary Shandon Cathedral' of Cork I think that you must mean St Marys and St Anns Cathedral, which is in the Shandon area. It is in the North Central Ward area of the city. Locally it is known as the North Cathedral. If you have further queries contact me. Regards, Frank Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: <BJS4179@aol.com> To: <IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: Valuation list for Cork County, borough of Cork 1855-1934 > Am going to Salt Lake City and want to look in the above films. My > relatives lived in the Mary Shandon Cathedral area of the city of Cork. > Would that be considered.. Centre Ward, North Centre Ward, North west ward??? > Thanks for you help! > Barb in San Diego, CA > > >

In a message dated 10/03/02 21:46:35 GMT Standard Time, BJS4179@aol.com writes: << Am going to Salt Lake City and want to look in the above films. My relatives lived in the Mary Shandon Cathedral area of the city of Cork. Would that be considered.. Centre Ward, North Centre Ward, North west ward??? Thanks for you help! Barb in San Diego, CA >> Hello Barb If this turns out to be the Roman Catholic Cathedral of St.Mary and St.Ann (aka North Cathedral) as already explained by Brendan, then the Registrar's District is 5 Centre. My grandparents were married in this cathedral in 1897 and this is what is written on their marriage certificate. Hope this helps Sandra

Hi Barb, Your reference to the Mary Shandon Cathedral area of Cork City is a little puzzling. Your choices would appear to be either St. Anne's Shandon or St. Mary Shandon. These were both civil parishes and also Church of Ireland parishes. Neither church was classed as a cathedral and both took in parts of several wards. You would need to check the Index To Griffiths as a starter to narrow down your search. I don't have access to this Index but if you ask on the list I am sure someone will oblige. To confuse matters further, in the civil parish of St. Anne's Shandon you will find the Roman Catholic Cathedral of St. Mary and St. Anne sometimes referred to as the North Cathedral or simply the North Chapel. Regards, Brendan Jones. ----- Original Message ----- From: BJS4179@aol.com To: IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: Valuation list for Cork County, borough of Cork 1855-1934 Am going to Salt Lake City and want to look in the above films. My relatives lived in the Mary Shandon Cathedral area of the city of Cork. Would that be considered.. Centre Ward, North Centre Ward, North west ward??? Thanks for you help! Barb in San Diego, CA

Am going to Salt Lake City and want to look in the above films. My relatives lived in the Mary Shandon Cathedral area of the city of Cork. Would that be considered.. Centre Ward, North Centre Ward, North west ward??? Thanks for you help! Barb in San Diego, CA

Hi My grandmother was born at 12 Harbour View, Queenstown, now Cobh. I was wondering if anyone would know is this house/street still stands. many thanks Paul

Hi everyone I would like to re-post interests. Have traced my family from Ireland to Egremont & /or Cleator in Cumberland thence to Greenside, Co-Durham thence to Wallsend on Tyne, Northumberland. Iron ore and coal miners. Others came via Hamilton, Lanarkshire. Nicholas McAVOY gg-grandfather b.abt 1826 (Ire);m.Ann MECKEN b.abt 1832 Children:- Patrick McAVOY g-grandfather b.1850 (Ire);m.Catherine KINNEYb.1858; Children;James Mc.b1876;Annie Mcb.1878 Eliza Mcb.1880;Edward Mc.b1888(gf) Catherine McAVOY b. 1852 Eleanor McAVOY b.1854 Nicholas McAVOY b.1859 (Ire) Ellen McAVOY b. 1857 (Egre) Edward McAVOY b.1864 Joannnes McAVOY b.1866 John McAVOY b.1868 sons John b.1904 an Nicholas b.1904 (twins) Mary A McAVOY b.1868 Bridget McAVOY b. 1879 Other surnames tied by marriage to above inc. TODD, TIPLADY, FOY, ROONEY, MAXWELL, KREBS. Pleased to hear from anyone who can identify a connection to above and especially Hamilton where I have had no success. My stumbling block is finding out where in Ireland my gg-grandfather was born. Think Cork but not certain. E-Mail: EddyOrion@aol.com Genealogist Researching: Eddy McAvoy Surname:-McAVOY McKEEN, WATSON. WALTON 10 Barbourne Close COCKBURN, DRUMMOND, Hillfield Cork, Lanarkshire, SOLIHULL.,West Midlands Cumberland, Northumberland & Durham B91 3TL

Correction, the talk to be given by Richard O Callaghan at the monthly meeting on the 12th of March should rightly read: "Family Records - The War of Independence in East Muskerry". 'Iscariot; the Cork Connection' is for another day! _______________________________________ Cork Genealogical Society http://homepage.eircom.net/~aocoleman/index.html Meetings held, Sept. to May, second Tuesday of the month at: www.corkvisioncentre.com

Hello List, I am researching my Great Great Grandfather who came to Australia from Ballincollig, County Cork circa 1860 Patrick Kearney was a bootmaker and married Mary Delaney in 1861 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia. Mary was also from Ballincollig. Did the town of Ballincollig come within two civil parishes? Placename County Civil Parish Poor Law Union Ballincollig Cork Carrigrohane Cork Ballincollig Cork Kilnaglory Cork Terry Kearney

Next meeting, Tuesday the 12th of March at 8pm, Cork Vision Centre. This will be our AGM followed by a talk by Richard O Callaghan entitled:- 'Iscariot, the Cork Connection'. New members welcome. Journal of the Cork Gen. Soc., No. 2, 2002, now published containing previously unpublished and new pre-Famine sources for experienced researchers - Legal and Estate records, Repeal Subscribers/Petitioners and other misc. records. Contents: http://homepage.tinet.ie/~aocoleman/journal2.html Surname/Nickname Index: http://homepage.tinet.ie/~aocoleman/indextojournal2002.htm Jean Prendergast, Secretary _______________________________________ Cork Gen. Soc. regrets that it can only respond to member's queries. New members always welcome. Cork Genealogical Society http://homepage.eircom.net/~aocoleman/index.html Meetings held, Sept. to May, second Tuesday of the month at: www.corkvisioncentre.com

Subject: DUNDON Family - newsletter from Bros.John Dundon > I hope this will be of interest to everyone researching the name DUNDON in > Ireland. > > Bros.John Dundon, author of "Dundons of Limerick" has submitted a 3rd > edition of the DUNDONIAN. He is presently in S. Sudan teaching natives to be > teachers. > > I'm certain he would like to hear from everyone, with reaction to the > newsletter, and with queries. If you can contribute it would be most > appreciated. > > He has to use a shared computer there, with limited capabilities, so I help > him by submitting the article to lists. > > Aplogies for cross postings. > > Regards, Emma Dundon/ Canada. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------------ > Dear friends, > Welcome to issue No. 3. I've had some communication, mostly from non-Dundons > though. This issue has an article from Emma Dundon about research of her > husband's family. Are any of the Dundons mentioned in this issue, your > Dundons? Which of the headings are most useful? Have you anything of > interest that you would like to share? I have just come back from Ezo where > I spent a month at an In-service course for teachers. Teachers receive no > salaries. School materials are hard to come by and expensive. Life for the > Azande is not easy. Eighteen years of conflict has a profound effect on the > morale of a people. > Regards, > John. > > FROM EMMA DUNDON > Dear Dundon Family , > About 2 years ago I became interested in my husband 's Dundon family > history. I had the names of his siblings and parents , but very little else. > He was born in Cork City. His father was born in Fermoy 1870. Both were > educated at the Christian Brothers College and UCC. Both became surgeons. I > joined many lists and became educated in all things Irish. Then I met Bro. > John, electronically. I was aware of his book "The Dundons of Co. Limerick". > One night, I read an email from a Chicago lady, Nancy, who was searching for > OUR relatives. She had the names and addresses of my husband's father and > grandfather. She had two letters, that were written back and forth from > U.S.A. to Cork, and a picture of my husband's Great Aunt and cousin. He knew > absolutely nothing about her, even denied that any family had ever left > Ireland. But she had come to Chicago in 1850. It was interesting to read how > the two women were discussing his father, and trying to sort out what career > he should pursue. The mother couldn't decide between a Priest or a Doctor! > Of course we are glad that the Doctor won out! Eventually the death > certificate was found, and low and behold there was yet another Aunt buried > beside the first Aunt. So you see, not only did we gain one Great aunt but > two, as well as lovely new cousins in America. My search now must consider > the possibility of even more, for one birthdate was 1820 and the other 1830. > Emma Dundon. > > MORE FIRSTS-1 > The Civil Records in Dublin and Limerick don't always tally. The first > recorded birth of a Dundon, Brigid, was given in No.2. This record came from > the records in Dublin. But the records in Limerick give two before her: 30 > March, 1864, Patrick to John Dundon and Ellen Sheahan, Old Kildimo, > Pallaskenry. My Church records tell me that Patrick was baptised on 3 April; > he had two brothers, Michael, baptised 1 Oct. 1860 and John, baptised on 22 > Feb., 1863. The second: 16 April, 1864, Mary to John Dundon and Mary O' > Donnell, Willmount, Rathkeale. I can find no trace of the Baptism. > Again the first record of a Dundon marriage in Co. Limerick was of Margaret > Dundon and John Joseph Amos; she was 23, he 21; he was from Cork, a gunner > in the Royal Artillery; their fathers were a carpenter and gardiner > respectively. > The records of Co. Limerick show the first death as that of Mary Dundon, > Clohakeating, Widow, aged 75, a farmer's wife; cause of death, old age; > informant, Anastasia Dundon. > > CENSUS, 1901-2 > From Ashroe, Abington, Glenstal, Co. Limerick: Thomas Dundon, aged 56, born > Co. Cork; wool weaver; his wife Hanny, aged 42, born Co. Cork; John, Nora, > Thomas, Edmund aged 16, 12, 7 and 4 respectively; the first two were born in > Co. Limerick and the last two in Co. Cork. > > DOWN'S SURVEY, 1641-3 > Richard Dundon, an Irish Papist of Creavebegg, Ballingadoy Parish, Barony of > Coshmay held 40 acres. > > CRIMINAL RECORDS -4 > The last issue saw the 'law taking its course'. Michael Dundon's petition, > of 30 April, 1846, to the Lord Lieutenant from Limerick Gaol had better > luck. He was in for twelve months for robbery. Prior to the offence 'his > character was honest and industrious'. The Magistrates John Waller O'Grady > pleaded for him: he is chief support of widowed mother, widowed sister and > four orphan nephews; plea for remission because of "dire distress in which > they are now plunged in this Season of Famine and Calamity". "Let prisoner > be discharged". May 14, 1846. > > DEEDS -5 > Indented deed between John Dundon, Dublin and Philip Abbot, Malbro St.: > Premises at Gardiner Place. > > Assignment of a mortgage between John Dundon, Attorney, Gardiner Place, > Dublin, and Edmund Doran and others: Lands at Newtown Castle Byrne, > Blackrock, Co. Dublin. > > Deed of assignment between Michael Dundon, Cooper, Limerick, and John > Connell, Merchant, Limerick: Large dwelling house in Clare St. or Penny well > Road, Limerick. > > > GRIFFITH'S VALUATION -6 > Martin Dundon, Knockanerry, Abington, Co. Limerick, held house, office and > land from Lord Cloncurry. This is probably the same Dundon family referred > to, in Issue 1, under Tithe Books. > > R.I.C. -7 > The second Dundon to enrol in the R.I.C. was Richard Dundon, Catholic, > Labourer, from Cork E; he was 5' 8 3/ " tall. He was appointed on 16 June, > 1845 and served for 9 years 2 months when he resigned in Sept. 1854 on a > pension of £17. 8s. 4d. > > FROM THE NEWSPAPERS -8 > 14.08.1790, Saturday, Freeman's Journal > Died at Limerick Mrs. Dondon wife of Mr. James Dondon. > > 17.01.1792, Tuesday, Waterford Herald > Married Mr. James Dundon of Limerick, merchant, to Miss Susannah Stokes, > dau. of Mr. George Stokes of Listowel Co. Kerry. > > 24.10.1792, Wednesday, Limerick Chronicle > Married last Sunday Mr. Michael Dundon of this city to Miss O'Brien of > Longford in this co. > > TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTION-9 > Glasnevin Cemetery, Co. Dublin. > Grave OH17 1/2, St. Bridget's > Erected/ by/ Thomas Dundon/ in memory of his beloved child/ Thomas/ who died > 16th Feb., 1891/ aged 15 months/ The above named Thomas Dundon/ died 9th > June, 1910 aged 72 years/ Also of his beloved wife/ Margaret Dundon/ who > died 8th February, 1926/ aged 64 years./ RIP. > > Grave UA11, Garden > IHS/ Erected by/ Edmond Dundon/ in memory of his beloved son/ Edmond Dundon/ > who departed this life 25th./ April 1838 aged 4 yrs. 1 month. (Stone > crumbling) > > MISCELLANEOUS > 1816 > On board the Pilot, (to Australia; port not given) Thomas Dundon . From > Limerick County; sentenced in August 1816 to seven years; from Fryar's Town; > labourer, aged 21, 5' 7 3/4" in height; fair, freckled complexion, sandy > hair; grey eyes. (Where is Fryar's Town?) > > 1354 - 1357 > Thomas Daundon Sheriff of Co. Limerick > > 1463 > John Dondon was a Bailiff in Limerick City. > > 1. Registrar of Births,Marriaes & Deaths, Co.Limerick > 2. National Archives > 3. National Library > 4. National Archives > 5. Registry of Deeds > 6. National Library > 7. National Archies & Garda Archives > 8. Limerick Regional Archibes > 9. Own research > 10 From Max Barrett, CssR,St.Patrick's College, Private Mail Bag 1, > Strathfield, NSW 2135 > 11 Pipe Rolls, 60, quoted in "Castles of Limerick" T.J. Westropp,1905,TCD > MS2957, pgs.94 and 95 > 12 Diocese of Limerick, Ancient & Medieval Begley, NL 274144B1 > > > John DUNDON, p.o. bOX 15201, 00509 Nairobi, Kenya > Guest 1_Yambio_at_PO565B01@smtplink.unicef.org > (Put my name in the Subject box. For the latest news from Sudan, look at: > <http://www.sudan.net/news/news.html> >

About two months ago I sent off my $30 to the Cobh Genealogical Project [NOT the Heritage Center] to have them search their Church of Ireland [Protestant Episcopal] records for me. Someone on this list had recommended them highly. I have heard nothing at all. Is this an unusual length of time? Wouldn't they let me know if they have found nothing? For others wanting to see their site: http://cork.anglican.org/Genealogical%20stuff/Cobhgen.html Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com