Hi. I am trying to find leads on the Murphy part of my family. I have a Patrick Murphy born in approx. 1806 in Ireland. He married Hannah Catherine Mulchinach (I believe she went by Catherine though). She was born in approx. 1810 in Ireland. Patrick drowned to death in the Blackwater or Blackbackwater River in Ireland probably sometime after 1836 and 1864. They had approx. 3 sons and 1 daugther. Their daughter, also named Hannah Catherine Murphy was born 17 January 1836 in Glentainn County Cork, Ireland. Daughter Hannah immigrated to Sandy Hook, NY in approx. 1851. The three sons of Hannah and Patrick Murphy are Patrick, John, and Edmund. In 1864, daughter Hannah brought her mother Hannah and two of the brothers (John and Patrick) to the US. Daughter Hannah married in 1857 to John Sharp(e) and moved with him to Evanston, IL. Mother Hannah died November 1883 in Chicago IL and was buried 19 November 1883 in Calvary Cemetary in Chicago, IL. I am interested in any specific dates (birth/death/christening etc) on Patrick MURPHY and Hannah Catherine (Mulchinach) MURPHY. I am also interested in any information related to the details of Patricks death--all I have is that he drowned in a River....one accounting tells me it is the Blackwater River and another says it is the Blackbackwater River...both note it is in Mallow County Cork Ireland. Any details on Patrick or Hannahs parents or siblings would also interest me. As for Patrick and Hannahs three sons.......I do not have much information on them so any details on the three sons would also interest me. If anyone has a connection to this family and would like the details of the family in the US from daughter Hannah Murphy and her husband John Sharp to the present time, please send me a personal email request at suzyking@aol.com and I would be delighted to provide you with my research as I currently have a detailed report on them. Thanks, Suzy

Jane Did anyone ever answer this for you? I have successfully navigated the problem this past winter. We refer to the religion as Church of Ireland even though it was connected to the English Anglican church up into the 1860s. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com >Hi fellow searchers. I have found several clues that lead me to believe that my GGG Grandparents Robert Henry ROE born 1816 and Eliza Jane (nee TENNANT) married and had their family in the city of Cork. Children are: Thomas Alexander born 1838 Robert Henry born 1840 Richard George born 1845 Sarah Anne born 1847 William James Lyon born 1848 Arthur Legge born 1854 Thomasine Jane Gifford born 1859 Robert moved his family to Devon England some time after Thomasine was born and their last son who was born in England: ca 1859-1863. He was working at the RN Hospital Stonehouse Devon for the Admiralty. It is possible he had been working for the Admiralty at the RN installation at Cobh before he left Ireland. I have found information about Robert's parents in Newtownmountkennedy and a record of his sister's marriage which took place at the Church of Ireland and England in Newcastle Co. Wicklow. Can anyone tell me the name of the Church of Ireland/England in City of Cork ca 1837-38 give or take a year? All help most appreciated. Best regards Jane, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada <

Hi Listers , I would like to know if anyone has had any luck writing to Churches in the City , OTHER than SS Peter & Paul , St Patricks and St Finbarrs , South Chapel . Will the OTHER RC Churches in the City do a general search ? Which Churches dont even reply to queries and which were helpful ? Thanks Carol (Wales)

Hi Listers, I decided to re-sub for a while by taking the Digest format As I realized by unsubscribing so quickly was actually very rude. I am looking forward to reading your messages and learning a bit about your part of Ireland. Regards, Roslyn McKearney - South Australia E-mail: mailto:cooindabbs@ozemail.com.au Cooinda Online URL: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~cooindabbs McKearney's URL: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gerros --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/02

Hello Listers, This matter is urgent. I am placing the following on all Lists in Ireland. If you have any information regarding this person please reply in private. I obviously cannot stay subscribed to every list as much as I would like too because apart from everything else, my email box would explode. I am living in South Australia and researching our family history, and am keen to trace Mr my husband's Birth-mother, Margaret Josephine McDONNELL. Miss McDONNELL, moved from Co Dublin to Birmingham, in August 1947 and lived at Hazelville Road, Hall Green until the early 1950's. Miss McDONNELL, who was known as Josie, worked at Joseph Lucas Ltd, probably at Formans Road or Shaftmoor Lane. Miss McDONNELL, may have married thus changing her name. If still live, she will now be about 85 years old. My husband's birth-mother may have returned to Dublin in later years or well could have gone to another part of Ireland. Anyone who remembers her or can give any information is asked to email Roslyn McKearney at cooindabbs@ozemail.com.au . I would enphasize, please only respond if you have genuine information. Thank you. Regards, Roslyn McKearney - South Australia E-mail: mailto:cooindabbs@ozemail.com.au Cooinda Online URL: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~cooindabbs McKearney's URL: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gerros --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/30/02

Hi fellow searchers. I have found several clues that lead me to believe that my GGG Grandparents Robert Henry ROE born 1816 and Eliza Jane (nee TENNANT) married and had their family in the city of Cork. Children are: Thomas Alexander born 1838 Robert Henry born 1840 Richard George born 1845 Sarah Anne born 1847 William James Lyon born 1848 Arthur Legge born 1854 Thomasine Jane Gifford born 1859 Robert moved his family to Devon England some time after Thomasine was born and their last son who was born in England: ca 1859-1863. He was working at the RN Hospital Stonehouse Devon for the Admiralty. It is possible he had been working for the Admiralty at the RN installation at Cobh before he left Ireland. I have found information about Robert's parents in Newtownmountkennedy and a record of his sister's marriage which took place at the Church of Ireland and England in Newcastle Co. Wicklow. Can anyone tell me the name of the Church of Ireland/England in City of Cork ca 1837-38 give or take a year? All help most appreciated. Best regards Jane, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

No, but there was (is?) one on Broad Street. Broad Street runs between Grattan Street (previously Duncan Street) and North Main Street. Shown clearly on the hand-sketched Cork map in Guy's 1886 Directory but impossible to find in that modern marvel of the cartographer's art, the 1984 OS map. Broad Lane is also listed in Guy's around the same area but isn't shown on the map. On the Guy's the church is clearly named. On the OS a lonely black + marks the spot; nothing in the list of churches in the 'handy guide' appended. It looks from the Guy's that the church was in a block bounded by Broad Street to the 'north' and Liberty Street to the 'south' and that the frontage may have been on Liberty Street. The map is online at Margaret Grogan Turner's site at: http://www.sci.net.au/userpages/mgrogan/cork/cork_map4.htm If you centre the map on your screen St. F's is about dead in the middle. I think there is also a more recent Broad Lane out in the 'sticks' (Canadian expression for the country), well, Blackpool anyway :-) - so the other one could be gone by now. Roll on GPS with ID chips in every building. Regards, Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: <CoolCatz33@aol.com> To: <IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Church Query > Hi Listers , > Can anyone tell me was there a St Francis Church on Broad Lane , Cork ? > Thanks > Carol (Wales) > >

Hi Listers , Can anyone tell me was there a St Francis Church on Broad Lane , Cork ? Thanks Carol (Wales)

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Having stumbled upon this list, I am hoping some kind souls will be able to assist me in finding some more of my roots. My grandfather was born in 1871 (Martin Murray) it is said that he was disowned by his family because he woul not go into the priesthood. He made his way to Manchester where he married my grandmother. The only information I have is-; His father was Patrick Murray. His home was Murrays Model Farm, Cork. I am aware that there is a Model Farm Industrial Estate just outside Cork. Verbal history is that all his letters were returned unopened. I am hoping some one can help me shed some light on my family background. Thank you for reading this. Kind regards Bob in Norfolk UK

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There are two entries in 'Irish Placenames', O'Laughlin that may be of interest, Bride River and Bride East. Both are in the north of the county. There is nothing for Malagarry. As for names, the thing to do is to get a guide to Irish family names and take a look at for any close variations. If your man left for the US in 1889 then it is possible that his birth was registered; civil registration began in Ireland in 1864. One of the many websites on Irish family research will tell you how to go about checking for a birth entry. Regards, Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: <Grammagras@aol.com> To: <IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:03 PM Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] New subscriber needs help > Hi: > My name is Elizabeth and I am writing from the states. I am searching my > Irish roots and so far the wall is still there. I am looking for information > about my Grandfather Thomas H. Murphy. He came here is 1889 according to the > 1920 census. He married Annie Greer. She came here in 1888 as a teenager > according to the same census. She was in the hospital for quite a few years. > While searching for her I was able to read some of the reports about her. She > spoke of going home to Ireland to Bride. She also spoke of a cemetery near by > and a hospital or institution with the name of Malagarry. Please realize > these places are pre 1888 when she came here. And the spelling is according > to how the person taking the notes heard it. There are no listing for either > of them since they came before there was an Ellis Island. Annie had a brother > John and a sister according to the same notes. I wonder if the Annie spelling > is correct. Could it have had a different spelling if it was in the Irish > spelling. The same question goes for the Greer could it have been Grier? As > far as my Grandfather is concerned that is all the information I have about > him:-( Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thank you, > Eliz. >

Hi: My name is Elizabeth and I am writing from the states. I am searching my Irish roots and so far the wall is still there. I am looking for information about my Grandfather Thomas H. Murphy. He came here is 1889 according to the 1920 census. He married Annie Greer. She came here in 1888 as a teenager according to the same census. She was in the hospital for quite a few years. While searching for her I was able to read some of the reports about her. She spoke of going home to Ireland to Bride. She also spoke of a cemetery near by and a hospital or institution with the name of Malagarry. Please realize these places are pre 1888 when she came here. And the spelling is according to how the person taking the notes heard it. There are no listing for either of them since they came before there was an Ellis Island. Annie had a brother John and a sister according to the same notes. I wonder if the Annie spelling is correct. Could it have had a different spelling if it was in the Irish spelling. The same question goes for the Greer could it have been Grier? As far as my Grandfather is concerned that is all the information I have about him:-( Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Eliz.

Elizabeth? Have you tried to secure, if available, his naturalization papers? It is very likely that you might get some additional and helpful information from them. At the very least, they would give you some idea of when he arrived in the U.S. and you could then select the appropriate roll of film from the 14 for the year 1889 (In NYC), and at least locate him in the Customs Passengers' Lists. Although these don't provide the detail of the post 1891 lists and lists from the 1900's, they do offer a little bit like the ship name, baggage he brought, etc. All good background for "fleshing out" ancestors. Just some passing thoughts for what they're worth. Charles --- Grammagras@aol.com wrote: > Hi: > My name is Elizabeth and I am writing from the > states. I am searching my > Irish roots and so far the wall is still there. I am > looking for information > about my Grandfather Thomas H. Murphy. He came here > is 1889 according to the > 1920 census. He married Annie Greer. She came here > in 1888 as a teenager > according to the same census. She was in the > hospital for quite a few years. > While searching for her I was able to read some of > the reports about her. She > spoke of going home to Ireland to Bride. She also > spoke of a cemetery near by > and a hospital or institution with the name of > Malagarry. Please realize > these places are pre 1888 when she came here. And > the spelling is according > to how the person taking the notes heard it. There > are no listing for either > of them since they came before there was an Ellis > Island. Annie had a brother > John and a sister according to the same notes. I > wonder if the Annie spelling > is correct. Could it have had a different spelling > if it was in the Irish > spelling. The same question goes for the Greer could > it have been Grier? As > far as my Grandfather is concerned that is all the > information I have about > him:-( Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thank you, > Eliz. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

You can locate the filme number at the LDS site. In order to do so you will need to know the Townland and you will then need to search the 'View Film Notes' at the following link: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?dis play=titledetails&titleno=756473&disp=1911_census,_County_Cork&columns=*,180 ,0 (You will need to copy and paste this link to your browser). Regards, Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Morrell" <paul_morrell@lineone.net> To: <IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:41 AM Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] LDS-1911 Census > I would hope at some point to make my first visit to a F.H.C. and would want to check the 1911 Census for a family (Desmond) who lived at Main St, Middleton. I assume the census is not name indexed but would be street indexed. My question is where do I find the street indexs to allow ne to order the correct film. > Many thanks > Paul > >

I would hope at some point to make my first visit to a F.H.C. and would want to check the 1911 Census for a family (Desmond) who lived at Main St, Middleton. I assume the census is not name indexed but would be street indexed. My question is where do I find the street indexs to allow ne to order the correct film. Many thanks Paul

There are no copies of: "The Books of survey and distribution co. Cork" In the U.S.A. Does anyone have access to these that is willing to do a look up? (John Worthington, son Thomas 1740's) Researching: John Worthington, wife Mary, their Children: Ann, Mary, John, Thomas, all born in Dublin moved to cork after 1725. Thomas Worthington born 1720 Dublin moved to Co. Cork married Ann 1749. Son of Thomas and Ann Christened Macroom parish co. Cork Dec 16th, 1752. emigrated to Colonies around 1760. Sincerely Bob Worthington E-Mail objwbook@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

Dear fellow Dundons, Welcome to issue No. 5. I hope my new Yahoo email address will make me more accessible. I would be happy to hear from anyone with comments about The Dundonian or from anyone who would like to contribute something to it. I would appreciate record of any Dundon births, baptisms, marriages, deaths etc. The rains have come here to Yambio at last. The place is looking lush. I was in a compound a few days ago and saw mangoes, bananas, oranges, custard apple (Anona reticulata to you!) and coffee. But a Bic, an exercise book, a pair of decent shoes are not easily come by. I hope to visit the schools with the Education Secretary during May. We will bring some school materials for them, purchased with money given me when I was at home in Ireland last year. God bless, John. 1. MEET PATRICK DUNDON AND HONORA FITZGERALD Patrick Dundon and Honora Fitzgerald lived in Patrickswell, just outside of Limerick city. They had a family of ten born between 1802 and 1822, a span of 20 years. Among the children born to them were five girls and five boys including twins, James and Catherine, the last born. The children, all baptised in Patrickswell Parish, were as follows: Brigid, 20 January, 1802, Margaret, 22 January, 1804, Michael, 28 December, 1805, Honora, 6 January, 1808, Thomas, 29 March, 1810, John, 21 April, 1812, Ellen, 8 April, 1816, Maurice, 28 July, 1818, and the twins, James and Catherine, 18 April, 1822. Are you one of their descendants? 2. MORE FIRST BAPTISMS FROM THE PARISHES OF CO. LIMERICK Bulgaden: 26 February, 1826, Michael to James Dundon and Catherine Connell. Caherconlish: 12 September, 1845, Catherine to William and Mary Dundon. (These are the sole records I have for Bulgaden and Caherconlish). Cahirnorry and Donoughmore: 15 October, 1830, Henry to Michael Russell and Margaret Dundon. Cappah: 18 November, 1846, Richard to Patrick Dundon and Margaret Carroll. Cappamore: 2 November, 1844, John to Michael and Honora Dundon. 3. CENSUS, 1901 >From Knockanerry, Abington, Co. Limerick: John English, 30, farmer, widower; Katie (25) and Julia (23) Dundon, sisters-in-law, unmarried. Martin Donden, 54, farmer, married; wife, Brigid, 45; children, John (24), Mary (20), Thomas (9), Patrick (8) and Elizabeth (6). 4. DOWN'S SURVEY, 1641 >From Askeaton, Co. Limerick. Ballisteene, Thomas Dundon, 176 acres 1 rood 20 perches. Mitchelstowne, Thomas Dundon, 110 acres. Ballincannanena, Thomas Dundon, 130 acres 2 roods 23 perches. 5. CRIMINAL INDEX FILES 1848 a) Memorial of William Dundon, Barnakyle, farmer, who was fined £5 for being "absent from court tho within its precincts"; has attended as juror for eight or nine years, though never called; the "fine is harsh in the extreme"; hopes fine will not be levied. b) Mayor of Limerick, Michael Quin, states that William Dundon believes the above to be true. 4 May, 1848. 6. DEEDS 617.219 10.01.1809 Deed of assignment between William Dundon, Baker, Limerick, and James Dundon, Sallymount, Co. Limerick of house at Mungret. 685, 306 06.02.1815 Marriage articles between Myles Ryan, Newtown Ellard, Co. Limerick, John Ryan, his son and James Dundon, Anaholty, Co. Tipperary and Catherine his daughter and others: £700 the marriage portion of Catherine to John Ryan; 84 acres at Garryduff, Co. Limerick to Henry O'Sullivan and Simon Riordan. 7. GRIFFITH'S VALUATION Main Street, Adare, Co. Limerick. William Dundon was the immediate lessor of the Court House. William Dundon was the occupier of house, offices and garden and the immediate lessor of house, offices and garden. 8. R.I.C. We come to our fourth R.I.C. Dundon, Patrick, aged 20, 5' 10 ¼'' tall, from Co. Limerick. He was appointed to Cork on 15 July, 1859 and was dismissed on 29 June, 1866. 9. NEWSPAPERS 15.08.1807, Saturday, Ennis Chronicle In Cork on Saturday last where he had arrived same week from Lisbon having finished his studies as a Roman Catholic clergyman, Mich. Dundon James aged 24 years, son to Mr. James Dundon of Sallymount, co Limerick. (This seems to be a death notice). 20.11.1807, Saturday, Limerick Evening Post Married a few days ago, Mr. Michael Barron of Broad St., spirit dealer, to Miss Catherine Dondon of Castle Connell. (This Catherine was probably sister to Margaret mentioned in No. 4). 10. BURIALS Glasnevin Cemetery, grave VB 32G. Maria Dundon, 11 July, 1836, Margaret, 29 August, 1836, Mary, aged 3, 27 January, 1837, Bridget, aged 22, 25 May, 1846, Edward, aged 60, 22 September, 1860 and Patrick, 2 Bath Street, 11 October, 1866. (The others have Ballsbridge as their address. This Patrick was my granduncle. But I have no idea of the relationship of any of the others to me. There is no tombstone. Please God I'll erect one some day). 11. MISCELLANEOUS 1473 John Dundon, Parish Priest, Dromin church, Co. Limerick. 1570 The gent and freeholders of the quarters about Kilmallock. Mc F Dunduna of Ballyhihand(?) 1584 Pardon to Walter Dondon, 2 June, 1584, Sir J. Perrot, Lord Deputy. 1600 Pardon to John Dondon of Kilbride, yeoman, 12 Dec. 1600, Lord Mountjoy, Lord Deputy. 1621 "Commission of James I concerning the state of the plantation in Ireland" has Oliver Dondon a leaseholder holding between 300 & 700 acres in the seignory of Meane, parish of Mahoonagh. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Listers, I'm new to the list and posting my interests: I have a baptismal certificate for Ellen BUCKLEY, baptised 14 December 1856 at St. Finbarr's Church, Dunbar Street, Cork. Her parents were Bartholomew BUCKLEY and Mary MURPHY and sponsors were Patrick BUCKLEY and Mary REGAN. In addition to this I have found out that she had a sister Bridget baptised at the same church 7 June 1863 and that her parents were also married there 2 February 1856. At some point Ellen emigrated to England, she is in Warwickshire in 1898 where she is married to John LOUDON (b.Westport, Mayo Ireland) and gave birth to my grandfather, Donald Stephen LOUDON. I can find no marriage record so far. She died in North London in 1944. Any help, connections or suggestions would be much appreciated. Melissa Zimmerman Nova Scotia Canada

I know that ther were 1000 copies printed but because it was so popular I heard rumours that it was to be reprinted. Apparently Tom who was chairman of the Society has been ill for a while so I don't know... They are currently collecting info on the Kilbarry railway linefor the same purpose Therese _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com