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    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Fergusson - Sheriff
    2. Brendan Jones
    3. Kathy, According to "The Cork Remembrancer (1792) The High Sheriff of Cork in 1790 was Joseph Capel. His deputy was William Allen. C. Ferguson and Sir H.B. Hayes are listed as Sheriffs but not High Sheriffs. Regards, Brendan Jones. > Jean, > I had copied a list of Mayors/Sheriffs from the book, "History of the City > and County of Cork" by M.F. Cusack. > There is a listing under High Sheriffs of County Cork of a C. Ferguson, > 1790. > > Also, SS. Peter & Paul's R.C. church has computerized their records. I'm > not sure what the fee would be now, I wrote to them in 1994. Write to: > Frank Whelan > Sacristan > SS. Peter & Paul's > Cork, Ireland > > Good luck in your search, > Kathy Schaub in New Jersey > > Searching: > Fletcher, Leary & Mathews in Cork City area (Huggartsland) & Manchester, > England; > McManus & Maguire in Tempo, Fermanagh (Glen/Ballyreagh); > Gallagher & Kelly in Stranorlar, Donegal; > Devine, McNulty & McConville in Derry(?) > McDonald, Kennedy, Gavin, Connell & McCue in parts unknown, > and Schaub, Stohler in Switzerland > > > From: "jcoat" <jcoat@mountaincable.net> > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:54:12 -0500 > To: IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Fw: Re Parishs and townlands > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jcoat > To: CORK CITY > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:17 AM > Subject: Re Parishs and townlands > > > Hi..My ancestor originally went to Cork city to become a Sherriff of Cork in > late 1700's. The family church was St. Peter's so I believe they must have > resided in or near St Peters, definetely in the area of what was Cork at > that time. Can anyone tell me what the Parish, Townlands Civil Parish would > have been called. I cannot seem to find out, trying myself so am looking > for assistance in this matter. Any help would be most appreciated. Thank > you Jean Coat > P.S. Ancestor was called Charles Fergusson. > > >

    12/19/2002 05:11:35
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Fergusson - Sheriff
    2. Kathleen Schaub
    3. Jean, I had copied a list of Mayors/Sheriffs from the book, "History of the City and County of Cork" by M.F. Cusack. There is a listing under High Sheriffs of County Cork of a C. Ferguson, 1790. Also, SS. Peter & Paul's R.C. church has computerized their records. I'm not sure what the fee would be now, I wrote to them in 1994. Write to: Frank Whelan Sacristan SS. Peter & Paul's Cork, Ireland Good luck in your search, Kathy Schaub in New Jersey Searching: Fletcher, Leary & Mathews in Cork City area (Huggartsland) & Manchester, England; McManus & Maguire in Tempo, Fermanagh (Glen/Ballyreagh); Gallagher & Kelly in Stranorlar, Donegal; Devine, McNulty & McConville in Derry(?) McDonald, Kennedy, Gavin, Connell & McCue in parts unknown, and Schaub, Stohler in Switzerland From: "jcoat" <jcoat@mountaincable.net> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:54:12 -0500 To: IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Fw: Re Parishs and townlands ----- Original Message ----- From: jcoat To: CORK CITY Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: Re Parishs and townlands Hi..My ancestor originally went to Cork city to become a Sherriff of Cork in late 1700's. The family church was St. Peter's so I believe they must have resided in or near St Peters, definetely in the area of what was Cork at that time. Can anyone tell me what the Parish, Townlands Civil Parish would have been called. I cannot seem to find out, trying myself so am looking for assistance in this matter. Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you Jean Coat P.S. Ancestor was called Charles Fergusson.

    12/19/2002 09:24:04
    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] St Peter and Paul's records and Cork City Directories 18th c
    2. Brendan Jones
    3. Hi Jean, Sorry I missed your original posting . There was a Church of Ireland St. Peter's on the North Main St. (or Main St.) in Cork City. This would have been in the Civil Parish of St. Peter. The building is still there but was deconsecrated many years ago is now used by the City Council as an Audio/Video centre for various exhibitions etc. It also serves as the meeting place for the Cork Genealogical Society. Regards, Brendan Jones. ---- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth W. Knowlton <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> To: <IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:34 AM Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] St Peter and Paul's records and Cork City Directories 18th c > Message text written by INTERNET:IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re Parishs and townlands > > > Hi..My ancestor originally went to Cork city to become a Sherriff of Cork > in late 1700's. The family church was St. Peter's so I believe they must > have resided in or near St Peters, definetely in the area of what was Cork > < > > Not sure what records you are trying to check, Jean. You don't say what > religion, > but I see a St Peter and Paul's under the RC listings and no such church > under > the C of I, so guess you mean the former. There are church records on film > from the late 18th c--you are lucky. > > There are also some Cork directories that cover 1787, 1788, and 1797 that > might cover an official like your ancestor. These are either on film or > held > by the Natl Library. > > Info from TRACING YOUR IRISH ANCESTORS by John Grenham, 2nd ed. > > Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com > > >

    12/15/2002 05:46:25
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] St Peter and Paul's records and Cork City Directories 18th c
    2. Elizabeth W. Knowlton
    3. Message text written by INTERNET:IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re Parishs and townlands Hi..My ancestor originally went to Cork city to become a Sherriff of Cork in late 1700's. The family church was St. Peter's so I believe they must have resided in or near St Peters, definetely in the area of what was Cork at that time. Can anyone tell me what the Parish, Townlands Civil Parish would have been called. I cannot seem to find out, trying myself so am looking for assistance in this matter. Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you Jean Coat P.S. Ancestor was called Charles Fergusson. < Not sure what records you are trying to check, Jean. You don't say what religion, but I see a St Peter and Paul's under the RC listings and no such church under the C of I, so guess you mean the former. There are church records on film from the late 18th c--you are lucky. There are also some Cork directories that cover 1787, 1788, and 1797 that might cover an official like your ancestor. These are either on film or held by the Natl Library. Info from TRACING YOUR IRISH ANCESTORS by John Grenham, 2nd ed. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com

    12/15/2002 01:34:39
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] St Finbars Schools.
    2. Margaret Carroll
    3. Can anyone tell me where to find school records for Sullivans Quay Catholic School ,Sullivan's Quay, Cork.school records. About 1880, I am looking for a Simon O'Regan and a Simon Lynch. I would also like the parents names if possible. Can anybody look them up would be much appreciated. ______________________________ Margaret E. Carroll --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 6/12/2002

    12/09/2002 10:59:31
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] William Cavenagh
    2. Elizabeth W. Knowlton
    3. Religion, religion, religion, Madeline. #1 question in Irish research. Can give no worthy advice on records without knowing it. BTW, you are fantastically lucky digging up the obit (and hard- working) to find your place of origin. Great work. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com Message text written by INTERNET:IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com >I am looking for info re William Cavenagh, Died 1879 in Frankfort, Franklin Co. Kentucky, USA. His obit states he was about 65 yrs. old, Came to USA about 25 yrs ago from native city of Cork, Ireland. He would have been born about 1814. Married - 1870 - Elizabeth (Johnson) Merna , a widow, In Frankfort . Thank you for anything about William Cavenagh. He is my husband's great grandfather, Madeline<

    12/08/2002 01:23:23
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Re: IRL-CORK-CITY-D Digest V02 #93
    2. I am looking for info re William Cavenagh, Died 1879 in Frankfort, Franklin Co. Kentucky, USA. His obit states he was about 65 yrs. old, Came to USA about 25 yrs ago from native city of Cork, Ireland. He would have been born about 1814. Married - 1870 - Elizabeth (Johnson) Merna , a widow, In Frankfort . Thank you for anything about William Cavenagh. He is my husband's great grandfather, Madeline

    12/07/2002 12:34:13
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Murphy/Mulchinach/Cox families from County Cork Ireland
    2. Elizabeth W. Knowlton
    3. Hi, Susan, Did you know this is the City of Cork list, not the County Cork list? Mallow and the Blackwater River are a long way from the city of Cork. Have you posted to the Co Cork list? Your best bet to find exact place of origin is in the US records: obituary, tombstone, and parish records are the most likely. Collect all US records for every family member and also those of neighbors and fellow parishioners (see censuses and city directories for these) who may be from the same places in Cork. The one Irish record I recommend is Griffiths Evaluation [on cd] to see where in Cork you find all three surnames in one place, especially Mulchinach as it is less usual. Good luck. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com Message text written by INTERNET:IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com >Hi List. I posted my family information many months ago but did not get many hits on it. I thought I might post my information once again in hopes that someone may have a connection to my family or know of information on them. If any has a connection or knows of any information on my family in Ireland, please either respond to this message on the list or email me directly at suzyking75@yahoo.com. If anyone has a connection, I'd be more than happy to provide them with more details on the family of John and Hannah Sharp here in the US. My family information is as follows: Patrick Murphy born approximately 1806 in Ireland (possibly Mallow) died when he drowned in the Blackwater River in County Cork Ireland (possibly Mallow). I imagine he was buried in County Cork Ireland. Patrick married Hannah Catherine Mulchinach....she went by Catherine. Catherine was born 1810 in County Cork Ireland. She immigrated to NY, USA in 1864...she traveled there with two of her three sons. She joined her daughter in Evanston, IL where she died in November 1883. She was buried 19 November 1883 in Calvary Cemetary, Evanston, IL. Patrick and Catherine bore at least four children together: 1. Hannah Catherine b. 17 January 1836 2. Patrick who immigrated to the US in 1864, he married and had two children, he was a veteran of the US Civil War. 3. John who immigrated to the US in 1864. 4. Edmund married Bridget Cox and had three kids with her: Robert, Josephine (born 13 February 1871), and Katherine (born 1874). There is no information to indicate that Edmund and Bridget ever left Ireland. Hannah Catherine (#1 above) came to the US in the early 1850s...I believe she came alone. She lived in New York until 1857. While in NY she met a John Sharp from Lincolnshire, England. He asked for her hand in marriage, but she refused to marry him until he converted to Catholicism. He moved on to Evanston, IL where he worked as a butcher and owned a meat packing business. He eventually converted to Catholicism and they wed in 1857. She moved to Evanston with him where they bore 7 children together: 5. James Charles born 12 February 1858; married to Anna M. Smith. 6. Edward Anthony born 26 August 1859. He first married a Katherine Blanche Salisbury (or Katherine Mary Salisbury) from Abergele Wales. His first wife died after her house coat caught on fire when a spark flew out from the fireplace in their home. They bore two children together. His second wife was Catherine Mary Atkinson from Green Bay, Wisconsin and they bore 16 children together. 7. Elizabeth born 1861; never married. 8. Hannah Catherine born January 1863; never married. 9. John Baptist born 1865; married Matie Shinnick. 10. Joseph born 01 November 1866; never married. 11. Susan born 14 January 1868; married Francis P. Sullivan. <

    12/06/2002 11:44:00
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Murphy/Mulchinach/Cox families from County Cork Ireland
    2. Susan King
    3. Hi List. I posted my family information many months ago but did not get many hits on it. I thought I might post my information once again in hopes that someone may have a connection to my family or know of information on them. If any has a connection or knows of any information on my family in Ireland, please either respond to this message on the list or email me directly at suzyking75@yahoo.com. If anyone has a connection, I'd be more than happy to provide them with more details on the family of John and Hannah Sharp here in the US. My family information is as follows: Patrick Murphy born approximately 1806 in Ireland (possibly Mallow) died when he drowned in the Blackwater River in County Cork Ireland (possibly Mallow). I imagine he was buried in County Cork Ireland. Patrick married Hannah Catherine Mulchinach....she went by Catherine. Catherine was born 1810 in County Cork Ireland. She immigrated to NY, USA in 1864...she traveled there with two of her three sons. She joined her daughter in Evanston, IL where she died in November 1883. She was buried 19 November 1883 in Calvary Cemetary, Evanston, IL. Patrick and Catherine bore at least four children together: 1. Hannah Catherine b. 17 January 1836 2. Patrick who immigrated to the US in 1864, he married and had two children, he was a veteran of the US Civil War. 3. John who immigrated to the US in 1864. 4. Edmund married Bridget Cox and had three kids with her: Robert, Josephine (born 13 February 1871), and Katherine (born 1874). There is no information to indicate that Edmund and Bridget ever left Ireland. Hannah Catherine (#1 above) came to the US in the early 1850s...I believe she came alone. She lived in New York until 1857. While in NY she met a John Sharp from Lincolnshire, England. He asked for her hand in marriage, but she refused to marry him until he converted to Catholicism. He moved on to Evanston, IL where he worked as a butcher and owned a meat packing business. He eventually converted to Catholicism and they wed in 1857. She moved to Evanston with him where they bore 7 children together: 5. James Charles born 12 February 1858; married to Anna M. Smith. 6. Edward Anthony born 26 August 1859. He first married a Katherine Blanche Salisbury (or Katherine Mary Salisbury) from Abergele Wales. His first wife died after her house coat caught on fire when a spark flew out from the fireplace in their home. They bore two children together. His second wife was Catherine Mary Atkinson from Green Bay, Wisconsin and they bore 16 children together. 7. Elizabeth born 1861; never married. 8. Hannah Catherine born January 1863; never married. 9. John Baptist born 1865; married Matie Shinnick. 10. Joseph born 01 November 1866; never married. 11. Susan born 14 January 1868; married Francis P. Sullivan. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

    12/05/2002 03:48:09
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] School records
    2. Josi
    3. For St Finbarr's' The records are held at the NLI and according to the healy book there are 46 registers surviving..thats the most for the intire counties jo

    12/03/2002 01:10:34
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] St. Finbarr's & St. Joseph's Cemetery
    2. Can anyone please give me the mailing addresses of the above two cemeteries/caretakers? I would really appreciate the information. Thanks!! Barbara from San Diego

    12/02/2002 04:18:27
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] [Fwd: [INLAKE] Genealogy Angel]
    2. Sharon Centanne
    3. HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Thought you might enjoy the article below about the value of Family History. Sharon Centanne -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [INLAKE] Genealogy Angel Resent Date: Wed, 27 Nov. 2002 23:15:57 -0700 Resent From: INLAKE-L@rootsweb.com Date: The, 28 Nov. 2002 01:16:02 EST From: AnoleLady@aol.com To: INLAKE-L@rootsweb.com Sent to me by Ken Curates <A HREF="mailto:bkcurtis@prodigy.net">bkcurtis@prodigy.net</A> I thought it was rather neat and should be passed on to all of you. I've often wondered why I got the "genealogy bug" and no one else in my family seems to care as much ...they look at me blankly as I, off the top of my head, run down the family tree from the 1700s to present to explain how we're related to some guy in California that I met on the net. LOLL Happy Thanksgiving all....and thank you for another year of sharing your Lake Co genealogy with everyone on the list. Kathy -Your Listless THE GENEALOGY ANGEL by Patty Whitney Gravies It happens suddenly, without warning.You are going about your own business when-----BAM!!------your life is changed forever. You are no longer able to resist the strong desire to do something you have never really thought about doing before. You suddenly want to spend all of your time with books, computers, newspapers, old photographs, and lots and lots of dead people. You start to enjoy going to old courthouses and cemeteries. What has happened to you? Are you crazy? How can your life be changed so drastically so suddenly? Well, you are not really crazy, although some people might think so. You have just been selected to be the "THE FAMILY HISTORIAN." It has become my personal philosophy that there is a genealogy angel out there whose sole job is to select one person (or maybe two) to be in charge of protecting and recording each family's history. It seems that God finds family groups to be very important. After all, a lot of the first part of the Bible deals with who beget whom. (Beget sort of means "Who's yo' mama?"--or thereabouts). Adam and Eve are going to be the only people in Paradise who don't have a belly button. Everyone else was beget by someone. Keeping track of who beget whom was probably not a problem at first. Families sort of stuck together. As the world's population grew and families kept expanding, someone had to keep a record of who belonged with what family. St. Peter probably started keeping records because no one on Earth knew how to read or write yet. Oral histories were passed on and people kept pretty good track of their families' oral histories because there was nothing else to do at night and in the rain and snow but talk about the family. Gradually, though, the world continued to expand. Writing was invented, and then reading was invented so people could understand the writing. Some people wrote down who was their family, but others didn't see the point. As people moved around a lot, sometimes families were separated and family histories were lost. Not everyone knew how to read and write. Oral histories were lost. For hundreds of years family histories were lost when the grim reaper claimed those who held the lore in their heads. Then, I think, St. Peter decided to do something about the shameless lack of respect for roots and family history. Each family was to have someone who would become totally focused on capturing and recording the begets of each family. These Family Historians would have the job not only of collecting the present day family into groups and recording their histories, but also of trying to undo some of the neglect of the past. So, don't be surprised if one day you are minding your own business and you suddenly feel a tap on the shoulder but when you look around there is no one there. It is simply the genealogy angel tapping you on the back to say, "You're it." From that day forward you won't be able to help yourself. You are going to have to take on the very important job of Family Historian. Do it well. ==== INTAKE Mailing List ==== Lake co Marriages http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/lkmar.htm Lake Co Births http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/lkbirth.htm Lake Co Biographies http://users.rootsweb.com/~inlake/lkbios.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    11/28/2002 12:43:28
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] BURKE'S PEERAGE
    2. I have access to the current edition of Burke's Peerage (106th) and am willing to look up family names for those who think they might have some "nobility" or blue blood flowing in their veins!!!! Please give me your ancestor's full name and I'll be happy to send you whatever I can find. Siochain Shauna

    11/18/2002 11:20:18
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Re: Queens College Cork
    2. Carol Thanks for the look up offer. I am looking for: KNOTT, John Noble b. Co. Leitrim, 1846. He was described "as a gentleman, he went to university", occupation: tea taster. again thanks, Jane

    11/17/2002 09:01:02
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Queens College Cork
    2. Hi Listers , If anyone thinks that an ancestor of theirs may have graduated from QCC prior to 1910 , and was still living in 1910 , I could have a look at a book I have to see if your ancestor is listed . Regards Carol

    11/17/2002 03:06:30
    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] HELP FINDING ADDRESS INFO!
    2. Therese Byrne
    3. Dear Jane The Mallow Heritage Centre have all church files for the Diocese of Cloyne. They charge about 60 euro for a search of a family. They are really good. I have used them and found two of my family lines ! Their web site is http://www.irishroots.net/Cork.htm All the info is there. They also look up any other records available for that area. Good luck Therese >

    11/16/2002 05:21:47
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] HELP FINDING ADDRESS INFO!
    2. Vic
    3. Dear esteemed and knowledgeable listers. I have just received a clue as to the area my ROE ancestors were living and need your assistance. Does anyone have any knowledge as to where one could find information regarding King Street? This address came from a record of death for a four year old child dated March 30, 1846. The Parish information is St. Mary's, Parish of Clonmel, Cove in the Union of Cobh & Glanmire, Diocese of Cloyne. The ancestor who lived there was Robert Henry ROE and his wife Elizabeth Jane (nee TENNANT) and I am wondering what part of the city this home would have been located and any history of the area ca 1846? Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Trying to make a small crack in my brick wall Jane, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

    11/15/2002 07:27:28
    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Researching HYDE, LOUGHLIN, others - need advice
    2. Ellen, here are some websites featuring George Noble Plunkett http://www.pgil-eirdata.org/html/pgil_datasets/authors/p/Plunkett,GN/life.htm http://www.ucd.ie/~archives/html/homepage/collections/plunkett-georgenoble.htm Plunkett is the family name of Lord Dunsany and you can access this at: http://www.dunsany.net/ Good luck Shauna > > I'm coming to Dublin (and possibly one or two counties too) next month and > since my time will limited, can anyone help me prioritize where to go > first to research my ancestors? > > My expectations are not great since I do not know for sure where most of my > Irish ancestors called home. > > > TREANOR, Hugh b. 1800-1802 Catholic Northern > Ireland (probably CO Down) > living in London by 1828 > SHERLOCK, Catherine b. 1810 Catholic > Ireland living in London by > 1828 > (couple married in London September 16, 1828) > > TREANOR, Hugh (son) b. 1831-2 about Catholic > England, probably London > > LOUGHLIN/LAUGHLIN, Nicholas b. 1812 about Catholic > Occupation in 1870: > taylor (tailor) > HYDE, Catherine b. 1815 about Catholic > (possibly Cork or Wexford) > clues: > near Hyde Park > father > possibly was gentry (even Sir or Lord) > father > maybe named Hugh > LOUGHLIN, John J (son) b Aug 1835 Catholic > London > > PLUNKETT, George Noble Catholic Dublin > Papal Count (father of Joseph > Marie PLUNKETT) > > > Thank you for any suggestions on finding any info on any of these people. > > Ellen > > > > >

    11/13/2002 01:11:57
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Researching HYDE, LOUGHLIN, others - need advice
    2. Ellen Elliott
    3. I'm coming to Dublin (and possibly one or two counties too) next month and since my time will limited, can anyone help me prioritize where to go first to research my ancestors? My expectations are not great since I do not know for sure where most of my Irish ancestors called home. TREANOR, Hugh b. 1800-1802 Catholic Northern Ireland (probably CO Down) living in London by 1828 SHERLOCK, Catherine b. 1810 Catholic Ireland living in London by 1828 (couple married in London September 16, 1828) TREANOR, Hugh (son) b. 1831-2 about Catholic England, probably London LOUGHLIN/LAUGHLIN, Nicholas b. 1812 about Catholic Occupation in 1870: taylor (tailor) HYDE, Catherine b. 1815 about Catholic (possibly Cork or Wexford) clues: near Hyde Park father possibly was gentry (even Sir or Lord) father maybe named Hugh LOUGHLIN, John J (son) b Aug 1835 Catholic London PLUNKETT, George Noble Catholic Dublin Papal Count (father of Joseph Marie PLUNKETT) Thank you for any suggestions on finding any info on any of these people. Ellen

    11/13/2002 07:54:27
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Re: Cork to Canada 1847 - Website Update
    2. Margaret Turner
    3. Jean, Congratulations on a fantastic job. I love the clean, neat layout of the web pages. What a transcription feat. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:01 AM Deaths of passengers from Cork at St. John, New Brunswick, Grosse Ile, Quebec, and at sea, 1847:- http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Canada1847.htm This is a work in progress and will progress until as much detail as possible on the passegners has been added. If you can claim a relative on these lists, please let me know. Also, please note that this website will be undergoing a major re-edit during the coming week. Jean Prendergast http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway

    11/12/2002 12:21:29