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    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Re: LDS film numbers for Irish BMD indexes.
    2. Here is the correct address for the Rootsweb-fianna list of LDS film numbers for the civil registration of births, marriages, and deaths in Ireland. http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/guide/lds-bdm.html The home page for the website is at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/guide/ Plenty of very useful information on doing Irish research. Colman Ahern, Berkeley.

    03/30/2003 04:04:58
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Re: IRL-CORK-CITY-D Digest V03 #20
    2. In a message dated 3/29/2003 9:00:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, IRL-CORK-CITY-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/guide/lds--bdm.html > Unable to access this site. Anyone else having trouble? I get page cannot be found message. Thanks for any help, Evalou

    03/29/2003 07:18:19
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Re:IRL-CORK-City Hamiliton
    2. Pat Turner
    3. Hello! Sarah: This is a site that I received yesterday in an e-mail through rootsweb, you may have received the same e-mail, anyway I am sending it to you. http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/guide/lds--bdm.html Pat

    03/28/2003 01:43:36
    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Newbie needs help
    2. Hi, http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/guide/lds-bdm.html is a list of film numbers for the yearly indexes to civil registration of births marriages and deaths in Ireland, these are LDS films and can be viewed at any Family History Center, if they don't have them on the shelves you'll have to rent them. If you have not already searched for your ancestors death in these indexes it might be worth a try. If she died after 1921 there is another series of films that go up to 1954. Each entry in the deaths indexes give persons name, age at death, registration district, this would be Cork in your case, also vol. and page number for the complete entry. There is advice on the page re ordering a photocopy of the entry from the civil registers. Dublin GRO does NOT accept payment anymore for overseas orders except by credit card, as I very recently found out. Using the civil reg indexes means that you don't have to know what parish or part of Cork she died in. The complete entry will give place of death, although if she died in an accident this could be a hospital. It also gives the informants name, this could be a relative. If she died in her own home, using the address you should be able to work out which parish in Cork city she lived in. For the most part catholic parish registers did not include entries for deaths. There is plenty of advice on all of this at the home page for the above web page, if you are not to familar with Irish research it makes interesting reading. Hope this is of some help. Colman Ahern, Berkeley.

    03/26/2003 04:02:56
    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Newbie needs help
    2. anne-marie batey
    3. hello all, new to this so please bear with me!! I am trying to find the resting place of my great-aunt Mary-Margaret O'Callaghan. I found the details of her birth from the parish of St.Josephs in Rathmore, co.Kerry where she and her brothers and sisters were born, but the whole family re located to Cork City in the early 1900's. Her brother, my grandfather, Andrew passed away in the 50's and he did not pass on any details about Mary-Margaret apart from telling my aunt that she had died very young in an accident. She was born in January 1898 to John and Kathryn (nee O'Reagan) but church records in Rathmore do not record her death which means she must have died in Cork. I know that in the records at St.Josephs Rathmore, the 'o' is removed from the surnames, but it is present on my grandfathers bith certificate and he was born a couple of years after her. As i do not know the year of her death or even which parish she attended I have run into a dead end. Does anyone know if ther is a transcript for the cemataries in cork particularly St.Finbarrs? If anyone can offer any help, or even knows any Callaghans or O'Callaghans I would really appreciate it !! I have been looking for her for 3 years now and have had no luck. Although to begin with I didn't even know her name or birth-date, that was given to me by the priest at the church in Rathmore. thank you all for your attention!! love anne-marie x __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

    03/25/2003 10:19:23
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] 1901 D.E.D.'s for Gardiners Hill and Ashburton.
    2. Hullo, I am looking for census details for a family who lived at either Ashburton Hill or Gardiners Hill on the north side of Cork City during the 1901 census. I have this from the online Family History Catalogue: Census returns, St. Anne's-Shandon Parish. Film #2046596, 1911 Cork No. 3 Urban DED 82/20-47. It includes Ashburton Hill, Ashburton, Ashburton Park. Film #2046597, 1911 Cork No. 3. Urban DED 82/48-72. It includes Gardiners Hill, Gardinershill Avenue. As I understand it the DED numbers for the 1901 census were slightly different than for 1911. The online FHC does not list what townlands/streets were in each DED for 1901. Can someone let me know the correct DED's and file numbers for Ashburton Hill and Gardiners Hill in the 1901 census? I think the file numbers are the numbers after the invert slash in the above references, and that each file number refers to an individual townland or street within a particular DED? Thank you, Colman Ahern, Berkeley.

    03/25/2003 05:24:52
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Cobh
    2. Elizabeth W. Knowlton
    3. Message text written by INTERNET:IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com >I'm wondering if someone can throw a little insight into a couple of matters for me. I'm attempting to trace the origin of three COLLINS brothers who emigrated from Cork to Newfoundland in the late 1770s. One of them was JOHN COLLINS, who settled in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland, in 1776. Before sailing, he placed an advertisement in the Hibernian Chronicle, stating that the Hannah & Lydia of Cork was ready to sail and asking for fishermen, shoremen, and youngsters to accompany him. He said, "For passage apply to said master at cove". The "at cove" reference I'm taking to be the Cove of Cork (Queenstown, Cobh). I also understand that the Cove of Cork was a small fishing village in the 1700s. Does anyone know whether all (or almost all) ships from Cork City would be anchored at "cove"? If so, then John Collins could have had his place of residence anywhere in Cork County. Or would those departing from "cove" be residents of Cove? (To give an example, if a ship was leaving the port of, say, Carmanville, in Newfoundland, it's a good bet that the master of the ship lived in Carmanville. However, if it was leaving from St. John's (the capital city), then the master could have been from anywhere, because the St. John's Port was a "gateway", so to speak.) So I'm wondering whether this reference to "cove" is a clue as to where John lived. Is the Collins surname indigenous to Cobh? I also noted that a Eugene A. Coyle published an article, back in 1990, in the Journal of the Cork Historical and Archealogical Society entitled "An incident at Cove 1776". Is anyone familiar with this article? Do you know what the incident in question was? Thanks for any help.< You are correct that Cobh was the major southern port for leaving Ireland. Leaving from there does not even indicate a residence in Co. Cork. Elizabeth

    03/12/2003 02:28:20
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Cove of Cork, 1776
    2. Alex Pilkington
    3. I'm wondering if someone can throw a little insight into a couple of matters for me. I'm attempting to trace the origin of three COLLINS brothers who emigrated from Cork to Newfoundland in the late 1770s. One of them was JOHN COLLINS, who settled in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland, in 1776. Before sailing, he placed an advertisement in the Hibernian Chronicle, stating that the Hannah & Lydia of Cork was ready to sail and asking for fishermen, shoremen, and youngsters to accompany him. He said, "For passage apply to said master at cove". The "at cove" reference I'm taking to be the Cove of Cork (Queenstown, Cobh). I also understand that the Cove of Cork was a small fishing village in the 1700s. Does anyone know whether all (or almost all) ships from Cork City would be anchored at "cove"? If so, then John Collins could have had his place of residence anywhere in Cork County. Or would those departing from "cove" be residents of Cove? (To give an example, if a ship was leaving the port of, say, Carmanville, in Newfoundland, it's a good bet that the master of the ship lived in Carmanville. However, if it was leaving from St. John's (the capital city), then the master could have been from anywhere, because the St. John's Port was a "gateway", so to speak.) So I'm wondering whether this reference to "cove" is a clue as to where John lived. Is the Collins surname indigenous to Cobh? I also noted that a Eugene A. Coyle published an article, back in 1990, in the Journal of the Cork Historical and Archealogical Society entitled "An incident at Cove 1776". Is anyone familiar with this article? Do you know what the incident in question was? Thanks for any help. Marilyn Pilkington Ottawa, Canada

    03/11/2003 11:59:30
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Site Update - 1845
    2. Jean Prendergast
    3. Insolvent Debtors 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Debtors1845.htm Daniel Herlihy & Michael Walsh - Convicts to Australia 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Australiaconvicts1840s.htm Kanturk Repeal 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Kanturkrepeal.htm Kilmeen (Duhallow) Repeal 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Kilmeenrepeal.htm Millstreet Repeal 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Millstreetrepeal.htm Castlemartyr Petty Sessions Fines 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/CastlemartyrKilleaghfines1840s.htm Macroom Petty Sessions Fines 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Macroomfines1840s.htm Douglas Petty Sessions Fines 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Douglasfines1840s.htm Cork city Church of Ireland 1840s - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/CityCOI1840s.htm Cork city Military 1840s - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Citymilitary1840s.htm City Biogs. 1840s - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Citybiogs.htm Various Notices & Reports 1845 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Cityvarious1845.htm Various Notices & Reports 1848 - http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/Cityvarious1848.htm Regards, Jean Prendergast http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/index.html

    03/11/2003 06:17:14
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Bartholomew McHUGH
    2. Maureen Whelan
    3. Hello everyone, Its time to post the names of my ancestors to the list again! They are - Bartholomew McHUGH and his wife Margaret nee O'DONOGHUE who I believe were from the Dunbullogue region of Cork. Their daughter Caroline who was born in Cork in 1837 is my gggrandmother. Would love to hear from you if these names sound familiar! Many thanks, Maureen Whelan, Brisbane, Australia. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp

    03/07/2003 11:28:47
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Site Update - St. Anne Shandon
    2. Jean Prendergast
    3. Griffith's Valuation 1852 St. Anne Shandon (complete) at: http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/StanneshandonGV.htm Regards, Jean Prendergast http://homepage.eircom.net/~ridgway/index.html

    03/02/2003 02:32:02
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Richard Corkran
    2. Hello all, I am hoping that somebody might be able to help me with any info on my ancestor Richard Corkran. He was born in 1836 in Cork; no details of parents except father was a builder. He emigrated to Australia and married Mary Bradshaw; they had 7 children. I know next to nothing about Richard, so any info would be gratefully received. Many thanks from Australia, Wendy

    02/26/2003 01:02:08
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Carey date
    2. Russell Carey
    3. Sorry I forgot to mention any dates. I believe that John Carey died in 1828 in Cork, and his wife I believe to have been Sarah ??? I dont know if Sarah died in Cork it is possible. Regards Russell _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

    02/23/2003 07:40:46
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Carey
    2. Russell Carey
    3. Hello list, I am a recent subscriber to this list and would like to let you all know of my interest in Cork. I am searching for any information on my family "CAREY" I have traced my Carey line from Australia, back to Staffordshire where I thought they must have come from, but then I found in both John nad Thomas Carey's wills that they had Earthenware and Glass works in Cork. Further investigation revealed that their father John Carey died in Cork. Did the Carey family come from Cork? I understand that the family business was located in Carey's lane Cork city. Any information on the Carey family would be greatly appreciated. Regards Russell _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

    02/23/2003 07:31:31
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Baptism Registers for Cork
    2. Dennis Pretorius
    3. Hallo All I have just subscribed and want to start by asking help and assistance. Henry Kennett OSBORN was born in "Cork, Ireland" on 11 Jul 1852. This information was recorded in the Family Bible of the South African Osborns. I found the family in Newport in the 1881 Census and the year of birth is confirmed - but Henry Kennett is referred to as Robert Kennett!! In all subsequent records he has used the name Henry. The names of his wife and first child - and their dates of birth agree with the known information in South Africa. I would like to get details of his Baptism in Cork as I realise that there was no Civil Registration in Ireland before 1984. Which organisation or researcher can I contact to help me to obtain a Baptism Certificate - or copy of the Baptism Register for Henry (aka Robert) Kennett Osborn. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated Kind regards Dennis Pretorius Family History Researcher S A Genealogy Online Tel +27-11-769-2400 Mobile +27-83-324-2238 E-Mail: k75@mweb.co.za http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html

    02/23/2003 04:05:10
    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] BRITISH ARMY
    2. Denis Grant
    3. The information pages at the Public Record Office (PRO) should guide you to the where you should look, particularly those entries under 'B'(ritish Army); http://www.pro.gov.uk/leaflets/Riindex.asp You don't say if you definitely know him to have been discharged in the WW1 period, nor what the source is of the information on his regiment etc. so it's impossible to tell what you have or haven't looked at. Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: "hff" <flt1469@sssnet.com> To: <IRL-CORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:36 AM Subject: [IRL-CORK-CITY] BRITISH ARMY > any one out there willing to share info?>i am searching my ggfather that served > 1888 to ? in 3rd Hussars stationed IRELAND ,CORK,BALLINCOLLIG BARRICKS > I WOULD LIKE TO FIND HIS SERVICE RECORDS WHERE CAN I FIND > THESE RECORDS i have searched the WW 1 burnt records. > >

    02/23/2003 03:58:53
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] BRITISH ARMY
    2. hff
    3. any one out there willing to share info?>i am searching my ggfather that served 1888 to ? in 3rd Hussars stationed IRELAND ,CORK,BALLINCOLLIG BARRICKS I WOULD LIKE TO FIND HIS SERVICE RECORDS WHERE CAN I FIND THESE RECORDS i have searched the WW 1 burnt records.

    02/23/2003 02:36:11
    1. Re: [IRL-CORK-CITY] Hamilton
    2. Sarah, have you tried the index of Irish births at the LDS library? Good luck, Shauna > Hi Everyone, > > I am interested in any 1901 census families living in Cork with the surname > HAMILTON. By chance, does anyone have any info on the following three > households: > > St Anne Shandon > > Clifton Terrace, Household headed by George Hamilton > > St Nicholas > > Abbey Street South, Household headed by Kate Hamilton > Abbey Street South, Household headed by Margaret Hamilton > > If anyone has any other data on people named Hamilton, living in Cork City after > around 1880 I would be very interested to know. This is all a bit vague, as I am > trying to trace the origins of John Claud Hamilton who was born in Cork abt > 1895, but for whom no birth registration can be traced! > > Fingers crossed! > > Sarah Montgomery > >

    02/20/2003 04:45:51
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Hamilton
    2. Sarah Montgomery
    3. Hi Everyone, I am interested in any 1901 census families living in Cork with the surname HAMILTON. By chance, does anyone have any info on the following three households: St Anne Shandon Clifton Terrace, Household headed by George Hamilton St Nicholas Abbey Street South, Household headed by Kate Hamilton Abbey Street South, Household headed by Margaret Hamilton If anyone has any other data on people named Hamilton, living in Cork City after around 1880 I would be very interested to know. This is all a bit vague, as I am trying to trace the origins of John Claud Hamilton who was born in Cork abt 1895, but for whom no birth registration can be traced! Fingers crossed! Sarah Montgomery

    02/20/2003 02:52:20
    1. [IRL-CORK-CITY] Marriage Lookup
    2. p_acullen
    3. Dear Colleagues, I've just received some details for the marriage of my grandfather and wondered if someone on the list could do a lookup. The marriage is for George CULLEN to Mary FITZGIBBON on the 1 September 1912 in Cork Ireland. They were both Catholics. Additionally if anyone has access to the 1911 Census for Cork and can help with a lookup for either of my grandparents that would be wonderful. Many thanks, Phil Cullen

    02/17/2003 03:06:42