Padraig, I see your point. I was not being as specific when I was referring to the search. Most of my family have had only "Ireland" recorded as place of origin - never a county. But at least we would want "Ireland" to be there. Occasionally, I suppose depending on who the person in charge of the manifest was, "Great Britain" is recorded instead of Ireland. I had hoped FOR YEARS that the Castle Garden records would be indexed. I had never heard that those indexes were being prepared. If the same folks who indexed Ellis Island indexed Castle Garden records, let's hope that improvments will be made to the site. I wonder if finances have played a role. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagáin" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: Re: harvesting clues from Castle Garden >I still hold the point of view that Castlegarden.org's > website leaves very much to be desired - it certainly > doesn't compare at all to the Ellis Island site . > > For example, entering just the surname Galligan for the > period 1830-1912 brings up 611 results, of which none > indicated the place of last residence, but just four (4) > results indicated the port of departure as Limerick. They > don't indicate the manifest numbers, so one can't check > that aspect out. > > Their 'Advanced Search' facility does not provide for > entering a surname. But for the same period, entering > Limerick as the departure port showed a total of over > 23,000 names - no details, just a request for $45.- > reasonable enough, mind you - to receive the data, which > would be over 22,000 non-Galligan names. > > Even though $45. is reasonable, I would be wasting my time > and money, for as I said above, the 611 of the name did not > give the place of last residence. In an email I brought > these points to their attention, but have not as yet > received a reply from them. > > Pádraig Mór > [ An Sean-Ghabhar - Milis agus Dilis!] > [The Old Goat - Sweet and Faithful !] > > **** Please Reply Only to the List **** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> > To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> > Sent: Friday Aug 12, 2005 9:01 AM > Subject: harvesting clues from Castle Garden > > >> >> While individual passengers may be listed as "from" > Ireland or Great >> Britain, it can sometimes be fruitful to determine where > the vessel came >> from. You can find this by looking at microfilm of the > manifest itself. >> While the majority of ships left from Liverpool or > Queenstown, sometimes >> smaller vessels are shown as having originated in places > like Youghal or >> Waterford, or even Galway. This information can help you > focus your >> search on a particular region. For example, with so many > vessels picking >> up passengers in Queenstown, why would someone take a > boat from Youghal >> unless they lived near there. And it's unlikely that > anyone from the >> southern counties would make their way to Derry to get a > boat for America. >> None of this is definitive. It's just deductive > reasoning. >> >> It's also worth looking at the manifest itself to learn > how big the vessel >> was and how long the voyage took. It doesn't add > genealogical >> information, but it does tell you something about their > experience. >> >> -dja > > ______________________________