Most of my families arrived before Ellis Island opened. I have gone through every manifest arriving in the 1850's at NYC. (The eldest child was born in April 1860 in the U.S.) At the Castle Garden website I have located 2 of my families. It's them. Everyone listed matches up including their ages. I got lucky. Although their last residence isn't listed at least I have a definitive date of arrival. Then again, I've seen Ellis Island records list only the country in the Last Residence column. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagáin" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: Re: harvesting clues from Castle Garden >I still hold the point of view that Castlegarden.org's > website leaves very much to be desired - it certainly > doesn't compare at all to the Ellis Island site . > > For example, entering just the surname Galligan for the > period 1830-1912 brings up 611 results, of which none > indicated the place of last residence, but just four (4) > results indicated the port of departure as Limerick. They > don't indicate the manifest numbers, so one can't check > that aspect out. > > Their 'Advanced Search' facility does not provide for > entering a surname. But for the same period, entering > Limerick as the departure port showed a total of over > 23,000 names - no details, just a request for $45.- > reasonable enough, mind you - to receive the data, which > would be over 22,000 non-Galligan names. > > Even though $45. is reasonable, I would be wasting my time > and money, for as I said above, the 611 of the name did not > give the place of last residence. In an email I brought > these points to their attention, but have not as yet > received a reply from them. > > Pádraig Mór > [ An Sean-Ghabhar - Milis agus Dilis!] > [The Old Goat - Sweet and Faithful !] > > **** Please Reply Only to the List **** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> > To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> > Sent: Friday Aug 12, 2005 9:01 AM > Subject: harvesting clues from Castle Garden > > >> >> While individual passengers may be listed as "from" > Ireland or Great >> Britain, it can sometimes be fruitful to determine where > the vessel came >> from. You can find this by looking at microfilm of the > manifest itself. >> While the majority of ships left from Liverpool or > Queenstown, sometimes >> smaller vessels are shown as having originated in places > like Youghal or >> Waterford, or even Galway. This information can help you > focus your >> search on a particular region. For example, with so many > vessels picking >> up passengers in Queenstown, why would someone take a > boat from Youghal >> unless they lived near there. And it's unlikely that > anyone from the >> southern counties would make their way to Derry to get a > boat for America. >> None of this is definitive. It's just deductive > reasoning. >> >> It's also worth looking at the manifest itself to learn > how big the vessel >> was and how long the voyage took. It doesn't add > genealogical >> information, but it does tell you something about their > experience. >> >> -dja > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb in data acquisition > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >