Hello Sarah, I have to say we have some gaps in our O'Connor research, as well, but I am writing to have you consider our family similarities. I can always welcome one more O'Connor cousin! Let me start with my Thomas O'Connor and his wife Johanna Donovan from Cork. I am from their son John. John Timothy O'Connor was born May 04, 1844 somewhere near Skibbereen in Cork. John had younger brothers named Thomas, born Abt. 1848, and David, known as Davie in our family, born in Cork November 23, 1849. In 1871 Wales census, David O'Connor lived at 39 Quarry St as a lodger with Daniel Bryant & wife Mary Ann. David's parents lived at 36 Quarry St, next door. David was missing in the 1881 Wales census, but at age 40 he married Mary Jenkins February 17, 1889. I couldn't find him in the census 1891, but he was there in Wales for the deaths of both parents in 1891 & 1892. Family lore was he had joined the British Army and also he was a farmer. Davie was rebaptised again in Merthyr Tydfil Wales at the age of three. His parents, Thomas Connors and Johanna Donovan must have just moved there. In Wales, John married a Margaret Donovan who was born 1844 in Reavouler, Leap. In general, our family mostly knew she was from Skibbereen or Rosscarbery. We only know that John was from somewhere near Skibbereen, and Drinagh would be considered right in that neighborhood. In fact, Reavouler Townland folks used to go to St Mary's in Leap, but they were physically closest to Drinagh. The Leap priest said folks in Reavouler started having their Sacraments in the Drinagh church once it was built. It is quite likely that John's family knew or was related to Margaret before her family moved to Wales in 1865. John and Margaret married in Wales September 1866. There was some family connection of the 4th degree. Wouldn't I love for my John Timothy O'Connors to be from Drinagh! I need to scour the Parish records to search for his birth and his two brothers-and likely his parents' marriage. That would wrap up my extensive research of all dozen Donovans from Reavouler and their spouses. Does anyone know how I could access the parish records exactly for Drinagh? I shall start there first! It is possible, if my people are not your people, that they are cousins of some sort. Don't laugh, because I have seen whole families split up with one generation between Ireland, Wales, Chicago and Australia. Many people went home for important events like weddings, baptisms, as England and Wales were but a boat ride away from Cork Ireland. Please give it a thought, and keep my address. I could use a connection right about now! Regards, Candi in California From: "Sarah O'Connor" <historyof0connor@hotmail.com> To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY102-F909AD702E0D8A6368204D85A10@phx.gbl> Subject: O'Connors in Buttevant, County Cork Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Good morning everyone! I am subscribed to the Jersey list and have not had much luck, I'm hoping you guys on the Ireland list are able to help me a bit more with a different line... Search: birth certificate (Note: the registrar has not been able to find this) Timothy Francis O'Connor b25/04/1887 Drenagh/Drinagh Buttevant, Ireland Died in England, probably Southampton around 1948 Timothy F O'Connor married Hanorah Bryant in 1916 in church of Kilpadder, Dromore, Mallow. He was living in Manchester at the time and a a witness is Kathleen Bryant (possibly mother or sister). I have found the marriage certificate. Search: Birth certificate Hanorah Bryant c1890 County Cork, Ireland Timothy F O'Connors parents are Thomas O'Connor and Mary ? They lived at The Grange, Buttevant in 1905 Search: Any info about these O'Connor parents or The Grange Note: Griffiths Valuation lists a Jeremiah O'Connor in Buttevant The Grange - could be related? I know they died in Ireland since Mary would never leave her country. Hanorah Bryant parents are Nicholas Bryant born c1861 possibly Dromohane, Ireland, died in London Search: Any info about these Bryant parents, Note: I have found 1891:- Source RG12/529 Folio 49 pg 11 GSU 6095639 The only Nicholas Bryant c1861 living in UK born in Ireland between 1860-1960 (held on file), there is a daughter Hanora b1889, which would match ours but we thought Hanorah lived in Ireland since she is in Mallow in 1916 when married. So not sure same family but this Nicholas was a coach builder, living in South Woolwich Watsons Wharf, London and all the family are born in Ireland, wife Mary and son Patrick. I know there's a lot of holes in this research but if anyone can help with anything at all I would be very grateful. I have got other lines going back to 1700's but these Irish and Jersey ancestors are a pain!! best wishes, Sarah

Hi Candi, Thanks for your reply. Recap of your family:- Parents: Thomas O'Connor and his wife Johanna Donovan (presumably born c1820) Offsrping: John Timothy O'Connor born May 04, 1844, Thomas, born Abt. 1848, David, known as Davie, born in Cork November 23, 1849 My family:- Thomas O'Connor and Mary? (guessed to be born c1860 but unknown) Offspring:- Timothy Francis b 25/04/1887 (my direct line) John born guess 1882 Edmund born guess 1884 Thomas guess 1885 (aparently wealthy and lived in America) My Thomas (senior) could be the same as your Thomas (junior) c1848 but absolutely no proof. There does seem to be a connection of names including "Bryant". We need more to confirm a connection, the message from Dennis Ahern on 18th May may help us research further. Will be in touch if I figure anything out. Sarah >From: Clzz@aol.com >To: historyof0connor@hotmail.com, CQuinnkmt@aol.com, msentner@gmail.com >CC: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com, asafkow@voyager.net, BARB5B@aol.com, >KOLOCALIO@comcast.net, patrick.o'connor@woa.wolfcraft.com >Subject: O'Connor near Skibbereen in Cork and also in Wales with Bryants >Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 03:21:31 EDT > >Hello Sarah, > >I have to say we have some gaps in our O'Connor research, as well, but I am >writing to have you consider our family similarities. I can always welcome >one more O'Connor cousin! Let me start with my Thomas O'Connor and his wife >Johanna Donovan from Cork. I am from their son John. > >John Timothy O'Connor was born May 04, 1844 somewhere near Skibbereen in >Cork. John had younger brothers named Thomas, born Abt. 1848, and David, >known >as Davie in our family, born in Cork November 23, 1849. In 1871 Wales >census, >David O'Connor lived at 39 Quarry St as a lodger with Daniel Bryant & wife >Mary Ann. David's parents lived at 36 Quarry St, next door. David was >missing in > the 1881 Wales census, but at age 40 he married Mary Jenkins February 17, >1889. I couldn't find him in the census 1891, but he was there in Wales >for the >deaths of both parents in 1891 & 1892. Family lore was he had joined the >British Army and also he was a farmer. > >Davie was rebaptised again in Merthyr Tydfil Wales at the age of three. His >parents, Thomas Connors and Johanna Donovan must have just moved there. > >In Wales, John married a Margaret Donovan who was born 1844 in Reavouler, >Leap. In general, our family mostly knew she was from Skibbereen or >Rosscarbery. > We only know that John was from somewhere near Skibbereen, and Drinagh >would >be considered right in that neighborhood. In fact, Reavouler Townland >folks >used to go to St Mary's in Leap, but they were physically closest to >Drinagh. >The Leap priest said folks in Reavouler started having their Sacraments in >the Drinagh church once it was built. It is quite likely that John's >family >knew or was related to Margaret before her family moved to Wales in 1865. >John >and Margaret married in Wales September 1866. There was some family >connection of the 4th degree. > >Wouldn't I love for my John Timothy O'Connors to be from Drinagh! I need to >scour the Parish records to search for his birth and his two brothers-and >likely his parents' marriage. That would wrap up my extensive research of >all >dozen Donovans from Reavouler and their spouses. Does anyone know how I >could >access the parish records exactly for Drinagh? I shall start there first! > >It is possible, if my people are not your people, that they are cousins of >some sort. Don't laugh, because I have seen whole families split up with >one >generation between Ireland, Wales, Chicago and Australia. > >Many people went home for important events like weddings, baptisms, as >England and Wales were but a boat ride away from Cork Ireland. > >Please give it a thought, and keep my address. I could use a connection >right about now! > >Regards, Candi in California > > >From: "Sarah O'Connor" <historyof0connor@hotmail.com> >To: IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY102-F909AD702E0D8A6368204D85A10@phx.gbl> >Subject: O'Connors in Buttevant, County Cork >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Good morning everyone! > >I am subscribed to the Jersey list and have not had much luck, I'm hoping >you guys on the Ireland list are able to help me a bit more with a >different >line... > >Search: birth certificate (Note: the registrar has not been able to find >this) >Timothy Francis O'Connor b25/04/1887 Drenagh/Drinagh Buttevant, Ireland >Died in England, probably Southampton around 1948 > >Timothy F O'Connor married Hanorah Bryant in 1916 in church of Kilpadder, >Dromore, Mallow. He was living in Manchester at the time and a a witness >is >Kathleen Bryant (possibly mother or sister). I have found the marriage >certificate. > >Search: Birth certificate Hanorah Bryant c1890 County Cork, Ireland > >Timothy F O'Connors parents are >Thomas O'Connor and Mary ? They lived at The Grange, Buttevant in 1905 > >Search: Any info about these O'Connor parents or The Grange Note: >Griffiths >Valuation lists a Jeremiah O'Connor in Buttevant The Grange - could be >related? >I know they died in Ireland since Mary would never leave her country. > >Hanorah Bryant parents are Nicholas Bryant born c1861 possibly Dromohane, >Ireland, died in London > >Search: Any info about these Bryant parents, >Note: I have found 1891:- Source RG12/529 Folio 49 pg 11 GSU 6095639 The >only Nicholas >Bryant c1861 living in UK born in Ireland between 1860-1960 (held on >file), there is a daughter Hanora b1889, which would match ours but we >thought >Hanorah lived in >Ireland since she is in Mallow in 1916 when married. So not sure same >family but this Nicholas was a coach builder, living in South Woolwich >Watsons >Wharf, London and all the family are born in Ireland, wife Mary and son >Patrick. > >I know there's a lot of holes in this research but if anyone can help with >anything at all I would be very grateful. I have got other lines going >back to >1700's but these Irish and Jersey ancestors are a pain!! > >best wishes, Sarah > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN Search Toolbar now includes Desktop search! http://join.msn.com/toolbar/overview