I am researching CALLAGHANs from Ireland and am interested in finding out about the time before people used surnames. I have done a Y chromosone DNA test and have found connections like apparent ancesters with 'non-Callaghan' surnames, presumably connected before surnames were used. Does anyone know how, where and when the surname CALLAGHAN came about and what happened before that time. I know it has connections with Co. Cork and the King of Munster. Tim

I wonder if the explanation could be that there were adoptions along the way? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Callaghan" <tim.callaghan@4hstc.freeserve.co.uk> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 5:41 AM Subject: [Cork] Pre-surname era >I am researching CALLAGHANs from Ireland and am interested in finding out >about the time before people used surnames. > > I have done a Y chromosone DNA test and have found connections like > apparent ancesters with 'non-Callaghan' surnames, presumably connected > before surnames were used. > > Does anyone know how, where and when the surname CALLAGHAN came about and > what happened before that time. I know it has connections with Co. Cork > and the King of Munster. > > Tim

As much as I understand, the first user was Ceallachain, King of Munster, who died 952. In the absence of an alternative, the name is said to mean 'strife', but that is not entirely accepted. Present day Irish urnames started to come into effect sometime in the mid-12th.century. Names with the 'O' prefix are older than those with 'Mac'. From the Annals of the Four Masters: (M934.5 = A.D. 934): "Cluain-mic-Nois [Clonmacnoise] was plundered by the foreigners of Ath-cliath (Dublin); and it was plundered again by Ceallachan Caisil [Cashel] and the men of Munster." (M937.14 = A.D. 937) Ceallachan, King of Caiseal [Cashel], with the men of Munster, and Macca Cuinn, with the foreigners of Port-Lairge [Waterford], went into Meath, and seized upon a great prey, and took the spoils and prisoners of Cill-eidhneach and Cill-achaidh; and took their two abbots, namely, Muireadhach Ua Conchobhair, and Coibhdeanach, son of Beargdha; but they left behind Oilill, son of Aenghus, lord of Ui-Fothaidh, and many others, in the hands of Aimhergin, lord of Ui-Failghe. M937.15 The men of Munster, under Ceallachan, King of Munster, who had the foreigners along with him, plundered the churches of Cluain-eidhneach and Cill-achaidh, and the territory of Meath, as far as Cluain-Iraird[Clonard]. M938.14 A great slaughter was made of the Osraig by Ceallachan, King of Caiseal. M939.7 A slaughter was made of the Deisi by Ceallachan and the men of Munster, because they had submitted to Muircheartach, son of Niall; and he slew two thousand of them, together with Ceileachair, son of Cormac; Maelgorm, son of Gibhleachan; Seghdha, son of Noebelan; Cleireach, son of Sesta, &c. M.942.11 A victory was gained by Ceallachan of Caiseal, over Ceinneidigh, son of Lorcan, at Magh-duin, where many were slain. M949.10 The spoiling of Sil-Anmchadha, and the plundering of Cluain-fearta-Brenainn, by Ceallachan and the men of Munster. The plundering of Dealbhna-Beathra by the same party; and the Daimh-liag of Gailine was burned by them. M952.8 Ceallachan, King of Caiseal, died. **** Reply to LIST only, please. Thank you. Padraig An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Callaghan" <tim.callaghan@4hstc.freeserve.co.uk> To: <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:41 AM Subject: Pre-surname era > I am researching CALLAGHANs from Ireland and am interested in finding out about the time before people used surnames. > > I have done a Y chromosone DNA test and have found connections like apparent ancesters with 'non-Callaghan' surnames, presumably connected before surnames were used. > > Does anyone know how, where and when the surname CALLAGHAN came about and what happened before that time. I know it has connections with Co. Cork and the King of Munster. > > Tim > > > ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb in data acquisition > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/06 > > -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 184 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com/pro for free now!