Nancy, the Hayes volumes I used were "Persons" and "Subjects", so I'm not familiar with the "Places" volumes and their arrangement. The Index at the beginning of each of the "Subjects" volumes makes interesting reading in itself as it opens up new ideas for research. (If I remember correctly, the Index is repeated in each of the "Subjects" volumes, so you don't have to go back and forth between the books which are quite large and heavy.) One of the subjects that I concentrated on was "Irish Abroad" which covered various places the Irish emigrated to, i.e. Irish Abroad: Spain, Irish Abroad: Gibraltar, Irish Abroad: Portugal, Irish Abroad: West Indies as these were the areas my ancestors settled. I feel "Education" would almost certainly be in the "Subect" volume. Here are the three bibliographic references for Richard J. Hayes (editor) in my handouts: 1) MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, 11 volumes, 1965 2) SUPPLEMENTS TO MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, 3 volumes, 1979 3)MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, ARTICLES IN PERIODICALS, 9 volumes, 1970 I didn't use either #2 or #3. I don't think Samford had copies. Another source that David had in the handouts was AN INVENTORY OF GENEALOGICAL SOURCES IN THE IRISH COLLECTION OF THE FHL, SLC which is microfiched and supplements Richard Hayes' MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION. However, I can't find this listed in the FHL catalogue. Does anyone know what this is? Jan in Mississippi where we are under a tropical storm warning. On 7/5/05 at 7:44 AM nancy c wrote: >Hi Jan, > >Thanks for the post re Richard Hayes manuscript. It appears that the films >re Places are divided alphabetically. Volume 7: A-K; Volume 8:L-Z. Would >you order Vol 7 for Cork and then search for the civil parish or >townlands...or would you order Vol 8 and go directly for the civil parish >or townland that begins with the latter letters of the alphabet? > >As for Subjects...again the Volumes are arranged and divided by the >alphabet. Did the class give examples as to what type of subjects are to >be found of interest to the family historian? In particular, any re >education? > >Thanks for any clarification Jan, > >Nancy > > > Jan Dean <murdermostcozy@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Candi asked me to report back on the Irish Research class at Samford >> University's IGHR which I attended in June. The class was wonderful and >> VERY intense just as John Geary said it would be. David Rencher taught >> us >> so much and was very personable. There's so much to absorb about Irish >> research that one person was taking the class for the third time. That >> made >> me feel better and not so overwhelmed. For a while, I was beginning to >> think I wasn't very bright. >> >> The Samford U. library is a treasure trove of information. It has the >> complete O'Casey collection. I wish I'd had more time to spend there, >> but >> maybe I can go back and stay a few days as it's only about a five hour >> drive from where I live. So far, using my notes, my favorite resource >> has >> been MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION edited by >> Richard J. Hayes. I brought back lots of copies from it and am slowly >> working my way through them and ordering films from my local FHC. David >> Rencher stressed over and over the value of these books in Irish >> research >> and he was so right. The series of books are also available on film from >> the FHL. >> >> If you ever get a chance to attend any of the classes at the Samford >> IGHR >> in Birmingham, Alabama, take it! It's a super genealogical experience. >> And >> if anyone has any questions about the class or Samford, I'd be happy to >> try >> and answer them. >> >> Jan Dean in Mississippi >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== >> RootsWeb, a user-supported enterprise http://www.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> > > >NYC Irish Research Pages >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/research.html > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail