Thanks for the reply Jan...I guess I'll find out about the 'places' when I start to order the films.... As for your query re "AN INVENTORY OF GENEALOGICAL SOURCES IN THE IRISH COLLECTION OF THE FHL" I believe this to be "SMITH's INVENTORY OF GENEALOGICAL SOURCES: IRELAND" The following is from the LDS site: Stmnt.Resp. compiled by the staff and volunteers of the British Reference Unit of the Family History Library ; Frank Smith, project co-ordinator. Authors Smith, Frank, 1917-1990 (Added Author) Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. British Reference Unit (Main Author) Notes Contents: v. 1, pt. 1. Ireland general (subject) -- v. 1, pt. 2. Ireland general (range of years) -- v. 2. Antrim -- v. 3. Armagh -- v. 4. Carlow -- v. 5. Cavan and Clare -- v. 6. Cork -- v. 7. Donegal -- v. 8. Down -- v. 9. Dublin -- v. 10. Fermanagh -- v. 11. Galway -- v. 12. Kerry -- v. 13. Kildare -- v. 14. Kilkenny -- v. 15. Leitrim -- v. 16. Leix -- v. 17. Limerick -- v. 18. Londonderry -- v. 19. Longford -- v. 20. Louth -- v. 21. Mayo -- v. 22. Meath -- v. 23. Monaghan -- v. 24. Offaly -- v. 25. Roscommon -- v. 26. Sligo -- v. 27. Tipperary -- v. 28. Tyrone -- v. 29. Waterford -- v. 30. Westmeath -- v. 31. Wexford -- v. 32. Wicklow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An analytical guide to select material, such as archaeological or historical series, housed in the British Reference collection of the Family History Library. Arranged by years and subjects. Patrons using this material will find new items of genealogical information not specifically listed in the Family History Library catalog. Subjects are again repeated for which a range of years is known or given. The years from 1900 back to 1500 are divided into 50-year periods. From 1500 to Saxon times (1066), the increments are in 100 year periods. Any subject covering more than the block of years shown is repeated in the appropriate blocks. Let me know if you end up using this and of what interest it may hold. Thanks, Nancy --- Jan Dean <murdermostcozy@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Nancy, the Hayes volumes I used were "Persons" and "Subjects", so I'm > not > familiar with the "Places" volumes and their arrangement. > > The Index at the beginning of each of the "Subjects" volumes makes > interesting reading in itself as it opens up new ideas for research. (If > I > remember correctly, the Index is repeated in each of the "Subjects" > volumes, so you don't have to go back and forth between the books which > are > quite large and heavy.) One of the subjects that I concentrated on was > "Irish Abroad" which covered various places the Irish emigrated to, i.e. > Irish Abroad: Spain, Irish Abroad: Gibraltar, Irish Abroad: Portugal, > Irish > Abroad: West Indies as these were the areas my ancestors settled. I feel > "Education" would almost certainly be in the "Subect" volume. > > Here are the three bibliographic references for Richard J. Hayes > (editor) > in my handouts: > > 1) MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, 11 volumes, > 1965 > > 2) SUPPLEMENTS TO MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH > CIVILIZATION, > 3 volumes, 1979 > > 3)MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, ARTICLES IN > PERIODICALS, 9 volumes, 1970 > > I didn't use either #2 or #3. I don't think Samford had copies. > > Another source that David had in the handouts was AN INVENTORY OF > GENEALOGICAL SOURCES IN THE IRISH COLLECTION OF THE FHL, SLC which is > microfiched and supplements Richard Hayes' MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE > HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION. However, I can't find this listed in the > FHL > catalogue. Does anyone know what this is? > > Jan in Mississippi where we are under a tropical storm warning. > > On 7/5/05 at 7:44 AM nancy c wrote: > > >Hi Jan, > > > >Thanks for the post re Richard Hayes manuscript. It appears that the > films > >re Places are divided alphabetically. Volume 7: A-K; Volume 8:L-Z. > Would > >you order Vol 7 for Cork and then search for the civil parish or > >townlands...or would you order Vol 8 and go directly for the civil > parish > >or townland that begins with the latter letters of the alphabet? > > > >As for Subjects...again the Volumes are arranged and divided by the > >alphabet. Did the class give examples as to what type of subjects are > to > >be found of interest to the family historian? In particular, any re > >education? > > > >Thanks for any clarification Jan, > > > >Nancy > > > > > > Jan Dean <murdermostcozy@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > >> Candi asked me to report back on the Irish Research class at Samford > >> University's IGHR which I attended in June. The class was wonderful > and > >> VERY intense just as John Geary said it would be. David Rencher > taught > >> us > >> so much and was very personable. There's so much to absorb about > Irish > >> research that one person was taking the class for the third time. > That > >> made > >> me feel better and not so overwhelmed. For a while, I was beginning > to > >> think I wasn't very bright. > >> > >> The Samford U. library is a treasure trove of information. It has the > >> complete O'Casey collection. I wish I'd had more time to spend there, > >> but > >> maybe I can go back and stay a few days as it's only about a five > hour > >> drive from where I live. So far, using my notes, my favorite resource > >> has > >> been MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION edited > by > >> Richard J. Hayes. I brought back lots of copies from it and am slowly > >> working my way through them and ordering films from my local FHC. > David > >> Rencher stressed over and over the value of these books in Irish > >> research > >> and he was so right. The series of books are also available on film > from > >> the FHL. > >> > >> If you ever get a chance to attend any of the classes at the Samford > >> IGHR > >> in Birmingham, Alabama, take it! It's a super genealogical > experience. > >> And > >> if anyone has any questions about the class or Samford, I'd be happy > to > >> try > >> and answer them. > >> > >> Jan Dean in Mississippi > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== IRL-CORK Mailing List ==== > >> RootsWeb, a user-supported enterprise http://www.rootsweb.com/ > >> > >> ============================== > >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. 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I think you're exactly right, Nancy, that "AN INVENTORY OF GENEALOGICAL SOURCES IN THE IRISH COLLECTION OF THE FHL" is the Frank Smith Inventory. Thanks for clarifying this. >Let me know if you end up using this and of what interest it may hold. I certainly will use it and let you know when I do, though I wonder if the rest of the list wants to read this. Should we do it off-line? Jan *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/5/05 at 1:05 PM nancy c wrote: >Thanks for the reply Jan...I guess I'll find out about the 'places' when I >start to order the films.... > >As for your query re "AN INVENTORY OF GENEALOGICAL SOURCES IN THE IRISH >COLLECTION OF THE FHL" >I believe this to be "SMITH's INVENTORY OF GENEALOGICAL SOURCES: IRELAND" > >The following is from the LDS site: > >Stmnt.Resp. compiled by the staff and volunteers of the British Reference >Unit of the Family History Library ; Frank Smith, project co-ordinator. >Authors Smith, Frank, 1917-1990 (Added Author) >Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. >British Reference Unit (Main Author) > >Notes Contents: v. 1, pt. 1. Ireland general (subject) -- v. 1, pt. 2. >Ireland general (range of years) -- v. 2. Antrim -- v. 3. Armagh -- v. 4. >Carlow -- v. 5. Cavan and Clare -- v. 6. Cork -- v. 7. Donegal -- v. 8. >Down -- v. 9. Dublin -- v. 10. Fermanagh -- v. 11. Galway -- v. 12. Kerry >-- v. 13. Kildare -- v. 14. Kilkenny -- v. 15. Leitrim -- v. 16. Leix -- >v. 17. Limerick -- v. 18. Londonderry -- v. 19. Longford -- v. 20. Louth >-- v. 21. Mayo -- v. 22. Meath -- v. 23. Monaghan -- v. 24. Offaly -- v. >25. Roscommon -- v. 26. Sligo -- v. 27. Tipperary -- v. 28. Tyrone -- v. >29. Waterford -- v. 30. Westmeath -- v. 31. Wexford -- v. 32. Wicklow. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >An analytical guide to select material, such as archaeological or >historical series, housed in the British Reference collection of the >Family History Library. Arranged by years and subjects. Patrons using this >material will find new items of genealogical information not specifically >listed in the Family History Library catalog. Subjects are again repeated >for which a range of years is known or given. The years from 1900 back to >1500 are divided into 50-year periods. From 1500 to Saxon times (1066), >the increments are in 100 year periods. Any subject covering more than the >block of years shown is repeated in the appropriate blocks. > >Let me know if you end up using this and of what interest it may hold. > >Thanks, > >Nancy > > >--- Jan Dean <murdermostcozy@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> Nancy, the Hayes volumes I used were "Persons" and "Subjects", so I'm >> not >> familiar with the "Places" volumes and their arrangement. >> >> The Index at the beginning of each of the "Subjects" volumes makes >> interesting reading in itself as it opens up new ideas for research. (If >> I >> remember correctly, the Index is repeated in each of the "Subjects" >> volumes, so you don't have to go back and forth between the books which >> are >> quite large and heavy.) One of the subjects that I concentrated on was >> "Irish Abroad" which covered various places the Irish emigrated to, i.e. >> Irish Abroad: Spain, Irish Abroad: Gibraltar, Irish Abroad: Portugal, >> Irish >> Abroad: West Indies as these were the areas my ancestors settled. I feel >> "Education" would almost certainly be in the "Subect" volume. >> >> Here are the three bibliographic references for Richard J. Hayes >> (editor) >> in my handouts: >> >> 1) MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, 11 volumes, >> 1965 >> >> 2) SUPPLEMENTS TO MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH >> CIVILIZATION, >> 3 volumes, 1979 >> >> 3)MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION, ARTICLES IN >> PERIODICALS, 9 volumes, 1970 >> >> I didn't use either #2 or #3. I don't think Samford had copies. >> >> Another source that David had in the handouts was AN INVENTORY OF >> GENEALOGICAL SOURCES IN THE IRISH COLLECTION OF THE FHL, SLC which is >> microfiched and supplements Richard Hayes' MANUSCRIPT SOURCES FOR THE >> HISTORY OF IRISH CIVILIZATION. However, I can't find this listed in the >> FHL >> catalogue. Does anyone know what this is? >> >> Jan in Mississippi where we are under a tropical storm warning.