You can also write ahead of time to the Mallow Heritage Center. I wrote about a month before a trip to Ireland and enclosed a stamped (Irish), self-addressed envelope. (I suppose you could include an international reply coupon if you don't keep Irish stamps on hand, or perhaps you could ask them to fax a letter to the library). Permission came in the form of a letter, allowing me to use Cloyne records in the National Library for a month. I gave the letter to the folks at the desk who kept it on file. They must have checked it each time I asked for three more films, as I had no trouble getting Cloyne diocese films for the week that I was there. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <irl-cork-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:03 AM Subject: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 1, Issue 74 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Permission to view Cloyne Diocese Parish records at the > National Library of Ireland (Zizek, Candi (DHS-DCDC-IDB)) > 2. Re: Research in Ireland (Patricia O'Shea) > 3. Research in Ireland (CABOCEAN@aol.com) > 4. Re: Books (P?draig M?r ? Gealagain) > 5. Re: Research in Ireland (Sheila Bransfield) > 6. Rare book (Judie) > 7. Re: finding books written in Ireland (margaret trewick) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:51:18 -0800 > From: "Zizek, Candi \(DHS-DCDC-IDB\)" <CZizek@dhs.ca.gov> > Subject: Permission to view Cloyne Diocese Parish records at the > National Library of Ireland > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <ACFC81511C888F42BD473431D3CF1FBFE6792E@dhsexcmsg03.intra.dhs.ca.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Kay & all, > > Last week I needed to research the Garrycloyne Parish records for a > CALLAGHAN client near Blarney, and this is what I did: > > I called the Mallow Heritage Center (within Ireland) 022-50302 to ask > permission to review the Cloyne Diocese records for this > CALLAHAN/CALLAGHAN family. > > They asked if I was looking for my family, which I was. Within 24 hours, > they faxed their permission to the National Library of Ireland at > 01-661-2523. > > I think you could specify your needs--for various Cloyne Parish > research, for length of time of access, but it is doable. I hope this is > helpful. > > Regards, > > Candi in California > http://www.corbinconnections.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 08:30:09 +1300 > From: "Patricia O'Shea" <pkoshea@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: Research in Ireland > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00a201c6feb5$4f8c0570$0301010a@pata1142ce242e> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > As far as I am aware (as of October this year) I think you can do as many > searches of the indexes as you like in any one day. You can only request > volumes covering 5 years at a time though. But you can do this any number > of > times per day. There may be a limit on how many certs you can request > copies > of in a day? Not sure of this as I didn't order any this time. > > The rules/conditions are clearly set out in the research room. You can > also > check their website at http://www.groireland.ie/ - look at Research to see > the details. > > The staff are very helpful and obliging although also extremely busy (and > have to deal with some quite demanding customers!). > > Hope this is useful. > Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. > > > >>I am puzzled by the message from Claire in MA. >> I am researching my Irish Bransfield family and have visited Dublin so >> many >> times that I cannot recall how many. >> You refer to the Record Office in "Joyce Street" - do you mean "Joyce >> House >> in Lombard Street East"? >> If you do, I am also puzzled about being restricted to five look-ups a >> day. >> Please forgive me if they have changed since my last visit (2004) but I >> paid >> a fee of 12 euros (I think, or maybe 15) to search all day. You were >> given >> three or four volumes (2004 was a long time ago and my memory is >> fading!), >> at a time, for the dates you select and I usually manage to cover births, >> deaths and marriages for about 50 years! >> Maybe I'm up the wrong street! >> Best wishes >> Sheila >> sunny but cold Kent, UK >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:24:58 EST > From: CABOCEAN@aol.com > Subject: Research in Ireland > To: IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d05.cd9bf9.327bbc2a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Oops Sheila, > > You are correct on both counts. Joyce House on Lombard Street. However, > my > time in Dublin was so limited, I tried to do all my index look ups before > I > went. I wanted to spend as much time in the Library as possible. > > I would have loved to have paid a set rate for photocopies of the certs, > but > they told me no..... 5 was the limit > > I'm terribly sorry if I confused anyone! > > Claire in MA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:20:33 -0500 > From: P?draig M?r ? Gealagain <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: Books > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00dd01c6fecd$1ce924f0$6501a8c0@PADDY> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > You over looked Canadians! ;-) > > ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** > ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** > > P?draig M?r, > An Sean Gabhar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zizek, Candi (DHS-DCDC-IDB)" <CZizek@dhs.ca.gov> > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:19 PM > Subject: Books > > >>I have just received a note from Waterford Museum curator Willie Whelan, >> who is computer brilliant and so aware of the gap between Irish >> information and the Irish Americans/Australians/New Zealanders in need >> of economical Irish resources. I met with Willie in Dungarvan last week >> and I hope to conspire with him to increase Irish knowledge and >> resources for us all, via the internet or any way possible. >> >> Here is what Willie told me: >> >> You have just stumbled across a common problem. A lot of these books are >> very short run publications produced by a lone individual or small group >> of enthusiasts. They normally lose money for the person that publishes >> them. Bookstores outside of the author's locality won't stock them and >> when they are sold out that is it. They often do not even have ISBN >> numbers. >> >> The best chance you have of sourcing them is to visit abebooks.com . >> It searches most of the second hand bookshops in the world. We often buy >> in rare Waterford history books from New Zealand or America using this >> site. >> >> The address is www.abebooks.com >> >> I did a quick search and they have many copies of Beara Women talking. >> They don't appear to have Riobard O'Dwyers book. >> They don't have the Driscolls book but they have other books by Eamon >> Lankford They do have a History Of Bandon by Paddy Connolly They have a >> Bay Of Destiny by Michael J Carroll >> >> Hope this is helpful... >> >> Regards, >> >> Candi in California >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 00:08:38 -0000 > From: "Sheila Bransfield" <Sheila.Bransfield@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: Research in Ireland > To: <IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000601c6fedc$368e8d50$5f9bfea9@office> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > To Claire > I don't remember a limit on the number of certs - but then I didn't find > many I wanted to have copied, so maybe that is why. Of course, you can > always identify the copies you need while you are there and order them by > post. I can't remember the cost but no doubt that can be picked up from > the > web. You can always order a copy of the entry first, to identify the > person, before you order the certificate. Obviously you still have to pay > (always in Euros - which even we find difficult from the UK). If it is > not > an appropriate entry, you save on the cost of a certificate. > As I have already explained, it is some time since I was there and ordered > certificates but, in 2000, I ordered 3 certificates by post and they cost > ?16.50. (There is always the money converter at http://www.xe.com/ucc/) > Best wishes > Sheila > (dark and colder Kent, UK) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:45:23 +1100 > From: "Judie" <jmorrish@iprimus.com.au> > Subject: Rare book > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003f01c6fee1$58f7cf50$0201010a@Judie> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I enjoy this list and in particular watching as the regular contributors > move from subject to subject to share their experience and knowledge, > especially with those who are obviously new to genealogy. We all had to > learn the ropes once, and what a great job these people do! > > Now, while book searching is one of the current subjects, I have been > trying to track down a rare book: "The Shooting Directory," written by > Richard Badham Thornhill and published in 1804. All I want from this book > is the frontisportrait of the author. Abebooks had the book for sale once > but I couldn't afford 1,500 English pounds, especially as it would have > cost more with Aussie exchange rates! I will happily pay a fee and costs > if someone could get me just a photocopy of this portrait. I've written > to the Mallow and Duhallow societies but they didn't reply to my e-mails > so I assume they don't have a copy. If all else fails I'll ask a > researcher to check out the National Library and other libraries and also > try libraries in England, but in the meantime if someone can access a copy > of this book I will be eternally grateful. > > Also, re Casey discussions: We have used these volumes extensively for > our north east Cork research and we stick to the golden rule of always > backing up all info with one or more other sources. We have used deeds, > will extracts and will indices, certificates, Griffith's valuations, > newspapers, graveyard records, parish registers, sharing info with other > descendants etc etc., and we have found Casey to be reliable. I am aware > that some our "other sources" are probably the same ones that Casey and > his helpers accessed in the first place, but at least by finding them for > ourselves we know that the information was copied correctly. > > Regards to all, > Judie Morris, > Victoria, Australia. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 12:43:24 +1100 > From: "margaret trewick" <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> > Subject: Re: finding books written in Ireland > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <007601c6fee9$73faa900$16b30ad2@margaret5254ef> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Candi > In Australia our libraries have interlibrary loan systems. Do they have > that > at your local library? If so you may get the books from the most remote > library on loan. > Regards > Margaret > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CORK list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CORK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CORK mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 1, Issue 74 > ***************************************