Hi Hilary, My grandfather had a photo of a gravestone erected for Patrick and Hannah. Those were his grandparent's names and I've since learned that they were both born in Cork but they died in the US...her in Detroit and I'm assuming he died in Vermont...so I dismissed the stone. Especially when I learned that his great grandparents were Patrick and Margaret and the stone was in Tralee and Tralee is in Kerry. The stone read: "Erected, by their children, in, loving memory, Knockbrack, Patrick Sullivan died 21 March 1905 (03?) age 76 years, and, his wife, Hannah, died 19 June 1912, age 74". The dates were another reason I dismissed it. According to their marriage record, my Patrick was born around 1830 which is close but he died between 1860 and 1870. I even figured into the equation that he didn't die in the accepted sense but maybe ran off. The problem then boiled down to Hannah. My Hannah died around 1893 and she was born about 1835. The Hannah on the stone was born in 1838 and died almost twenty years later than mine. I finally decided that my grandfather...for reasons only he knew...held onto a photo of a memorial stone that was in the wrong county and erected to the wrong Patrick and Hannah. Of course, now that I'm looking at how close the birthdates are, I'm beginning to second guess myself. All I know for certain is that Hannah disappeared from the census and directories around 1893. Maybe she went back to Ireland. Maybe she listed herself as a widow for her children's sake. Maybe somehow they wound up buried together in Kerry because both had lied about being born in Cork. Lord, I'm confused! Any ideas? Chris in Michigan Moonshadow242@aol.com wrote: I found my great grandparents' parish of origin in Ireland on their gravestone. All of the census and other documents that I had seen listed only Ireland, but when I made a trip to the graveyard, the parish was listed on their stone

I am not 100% sure, but I believe that in Ireland there are instances where they put the death details on the headstone sometimes where people have died elsewhere. I had a few instances where I saw headstones in Ireland where there were a dozen or more names on the one headstone, obviously they were not all in the grave.......so could have easily died elsewhere. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARY THOMAS" <coloknight@verizon.net> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:56 AM Subject: Re: (CORK) Where do I look? > Hi Hilary, > > My grandfather had a photo of a gravestone erected for Patrick and > Hannah. Those were his grandparent's names

>obviously they were not all in the grave.......so could have easily died >elsewhere> I am aware of only one incidence in Co. Limerick where a party died elsewhere and that fact is so inscribed on the headstone - that was Patrick Dooley who was drowned on the maiden voyage of the Titanic - the grave is in Knockainey. Why would you say 'obviously they were not all...' when firstly it isn't obvious and secondly, how old is the grave? two hundred years , more or less, with the headstone been replaced from time to time and all original inscriptions brought forward on the new stone. In Limerick city municipal cemeteries, there is an environment policy now, where certain graves are closed for more burials for thirty years. In the case of my parents that is so, although there is just my brother's remains in it with the parents. And the grave is only about 25 years in use. ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaye vernon" <kjvernon@bigpond.net.au> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: Re: (CORK) Where do I look? >I am not 100% sure, but I believe that in Ireland there are instances where > they put the death details on the headstone sometimes where people have > died > elsewhere. > I had a few instances where I saw headstones in Ireland where there were a > dozen or more names on the one headstone, obviously they were not all in > the > grave.......so could have easily died elsewhere. > Kaye > > www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MARY THOMAS" <coloknight@verizon.net> > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:56 AM > Subject: Re: (CORK) Where do I look? > > >> Hi Hilary, >> >> My grandfather had a photo of a gravestone erected for Patrick and >> Hannah. Those were his grandparent's names >