Hi Hilary, I think you're right. I've been hanging on Cork because its listed on all of the documentation from marriage records to census records, etc, but that doesn't necesarily mean they didn't die in Kerry. Hannah I know hung around Detroit until at least 1892. With the approximate dates I have, she would have only been about 57. Her children were grown and married. She could have returned to Ireland. I'm in contact with a brother and sister who are related to my great grandfather's wife, Patrick and Hannah's daughter-in-law and I'm getting their stories bit by bit...you see they remember first hand. She's 98 and he's 103...both spry and computer savvy. Hannah, at least, would have been recent history to them when they were children. Still, can't help wishing that Ouiji boards worked. :-) I know that this is the Cork list but any clues on how to go about checking records in Knockbrack? Should I sign onto the Kerry list? Is there a website? Chris in Muskegon Moonshadow242@aol.com wrote: HI Chris, I have found that birthdates can be problematic, Since your grandfather was closer in time to Patrick and Hannah, and presumably might have heard stories or other information to support that photo, maybe you should at least start by exploring that lead? Can you check records in Knockbrack?