Thank you Andrew. That was an approximate of the trail I was following. You get a website; put up your databases/photos, etc., and link to those through your mailing list subscriptions. Interested people can read the index of what you have then visit your website for the details. Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Billinghurst" <billinghurst@tpg.com.au> To: "padraigogealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> Cc: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [admin] Attachments in the new system > If the response so far to how people see multipart digests and they are > just text, is anything to gauge by, I would think that it is not in the > scope. > > Users are able to attach such documents to posts in the message boards, > and that would seem to be the safest way to undertake the operations. > This also means that we don't clog up bandwidth, mailboxes, etc. I > could see that RootsWeb would look to more closely align those services, > though I doubt that we will see attachments per se in mailing lists. > > I would think that RootsWeb would see it is the entirety of the package > that needs to be considered. As you can get a web account on FREEPAGES > server and they have very easy tools, one can upload their documents > there and can include a link to a webpage. It would seem that the > permanent nature of that, especially considering indexing, would be a > better solution if you can add a url or ready reference to that site. > > So to my way of thinking, that would seem to be more closely aligning > services rather than duplicating what already exists.. > > Regards, Andrew > > > Quoting padraigogealagain <padraigogealagain@rogers.com>: > >> Andrew, What do think of the possibility that Rootsweb will allow >> subscribers to send attachments of items genealogical to the List - >> do you >> know if such a move is in the forward plans? >> >> I think, it would be great boon if we could do that. Imagine having >> the >> ability to send scans of privately held historic documents, or >> certificate >> copies of BDM's, etc.to the List, as one cans on many other >> non-genealogical >> forums. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andrew Billinghurst" <billinghurst@tpg.com.au> >> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: <billinghurst@tpg.com.au> >> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 AM >> Subject: [admin] Digests in the new system >> >> >> > >From my understanding of the technology, which is reasonably >> > informed, the following is the situation under the new Mailman >> > mailing list software >> > >> > 1) The digests can be produced in two methods, flat (plain text) >> > digests, or multipart (MIME) digests. Each list will have a >> default >> > type, and the subscribers can be switched between them. Note that >> > RootsWeb has always done multipart digests though there are >> different >> > types of multipart and this one will look different to the >> previous >> > type. >> > >> > 2) AOL users see the multipart digests as attachments. This is an >> > AOL view and how their software manages things. >> > >> > 3) RootsWeb's email will still be text only, there is an oft use >> term >> > 'plain text' which has been carelessly ascribed and confuses >> matters. >> > All RootsWeb's mailing lists are plain text, and will not contain >> > binary attachments. >> > [Note that I will not go into depth about semantics about >> attachments >> > as it can be quite a discussion and sometimes a discussion >> comparing >> > apples and oranges]. >> > >> > 3) I change subscribers to the multipart form from the flat >> digest, >> > if anyone wishes to be changed to the flat digest form, then >> please >> > contact me by the email address IRL-CORK-admin@rootsweb.com and I >> > will change you over. Note that those who have spoken have been >> > changed over. >> > >> > 4) If you wish to change the format of a digest for another list >> then >> > please contact the respective list admin by modifying the generic >> > address LISTNAME-admin@rootsweb.com >> > >> > 5) RootsWeb is looking at allowing users to have more direct >> control >> > of their subscriptions and better blending this into the MyAccount >> > https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/signin >> > system, and the new software allows this to happen then the old >> > software system. This all just takes little steps and our little >> bit >> > here is patience. >> > >> > Regards Andrew >> > List-admin IRL-CORK mailing list >> > >> > >> > On 10 Sep 2006 at 9:15, Donal O'Kelly wrote: >> > >> >> I believe digest posts has always arrived in batches of >> attachments. >> >> >> >> There has been talk about the ability for US to attach files to >> our >> >> listmail >> >> posts, but I have no direct word from Rootsweb on that. >> >> >> >> It would be better I think to set back and check out anything that >> sounds >> >> like rumor. Many people on this list understands the part of the >> system >> >> we >> >> work with every day, but we don't know what other goodies we will >> have >> >> when >> >> the whole process begins to properly work. >> >> >> >> Meanwhile RW is working 24-7 to put out little brushfires with the >> new >> >> list >> >> format, as we all know. >> >> >> >> As list admins we will take care of each problem one by one until >> the >> >> whole >> >> system works together. >> >> >> >> Thanks all and have a great day. >> >> >> >> Donal O'Collaugh O'Kelly >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "padraigogealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> >> >> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com>; <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>; >> >> <IRL-Limerick@rootsweb.com>; <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:54 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] IRL-CORK Digest,Attachments now being >> sent >> >> with >> >> these ? >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes, I asked the same question of the Admin. person at Co.Clare >> - but I >> >> > didn't get an answer - probably because she's still on holidays >> in >> >> > Ireland. >> >> > You'll have to ask Mr. Billingsworth, The List Admin. >> >> > The recent changes that Rootsweb introduced , seems to have this >> about. >> >> > My >> >> > positive thought was - Great! Rootsweb are now allowing >> attachments to >> >> > be >> >> > sent to Lists - but I don't think so. Although it would be a >> good idea >> >> > in >> >> > that we could send Scans of genealogical items, such as >> certificates of >> >> > B.D.M's. to the List. >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: <EAlt117@aol.com> >> >> > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:30 AM >> >> > Subject: Re: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 1, Issue 4 >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/444 - Release Date: 9/11/2006 > >

That method is just 'Fine and Dandy' if one wants to bother with a personal Website. For those who don't want that route, such as me. No joy, it means sending attachments privately. I think it's time for Rootsweb to completely initiate an new system such as certain Forum style operations have, where, for example, members can only contact other members by using the Private Message feature of the site. Members email addresses are not shown, so one is protected from the SPAM harvesters ; Members can upload Photos, Drawings, Maps, etc. that all members and unregistered visitors can view ( unregistered visitors have only a viewing option). Anyway, Rootsweb is a law unto themselves, so end of my participation in this discussion, But it is evident, that List Admins. were not fully informed as to the proposed changes and are just learning what happened when RW recently initiated the changes.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal O'Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com>; "padraigogealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> Cc: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [admin] Attachments in the new system > Thank you Andrew. > That was an approximate of the trail I was following. > You get a website; put up your databases/photos, etc., and link to those > through your mailing list subscriptions. > Interested people can read the index of what you have then visit your > website for the details. > Don Kelly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Billinghurst" <billinghurst@tpg.com.au> > To: "padraigogealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> > Cc: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: [admin] Attachments in the new system > > >> If the response so far to how people see multipart digests and they are >> just text, is anything to gauge by, I would think that it is not in the >> scope. >> >> Users are able to attach such documents to posts in the message boards, >> and that would seem to be the safest way to undertake the operations. >> This also means that we don't clog up bandwidth, mailboxes, etc. I >> could see that RootsWeb would look to more closely align those services, >> though I doubt that we will see attachments per se in mailing lists. >> >> I would think that RootsWeb would see it is the entirety of the package >> that needs to be considered. As you can get a web account on FREEPAGES >> server and they have very easy tools, one can upload their documents >> there and can include a link to a webpage. It would seem that the >> permanent nature of that, especially considering indexing, would be a >> better solution if you can add a url or ready reference to that site. >> >> So to my way of thinking, that would seem to be more closely aligning >> services rather than duplicating what already exists.. >> >> Regards, Andrew >> >> >> Quoting padraigogealagain <padraigogealagain@rogers.com>: >> >>> Andrew, What do think of the possibility that Rootsweb will allow >>> subscribers to send attachments of items genealogical to the List - >>> do you >>> know if such a move is in the forward plans? >>> >>> I think, it would be great boon if we could do that. Imagine having >>> the >>> ability to send scans of privately held historic documents, or >>> certificate >>> copies of BDM's, etc.to the List, as one cans on many other >>> non-genealogical >>> forums. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew Billinghurst" <billinghurst@tpg.com.au> >>> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> >>> Cc: <billinghurst@tpg.com.au> >>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 AM >>> Subject: [admin] Digests in the new system >>> >>> >>> > >From my understanding of the technology, which is reasonably >>> > informed, the following is the situation under the new Mailman >>> > mailing list software >>> > >>> > 1) The digests can be produced in two methods, flat (plain text) >>> > digests, or multipart (MIME) digests. Each list will have a >>> default >>> > type, and the subscribers can be switched between them. Note that >>> > RootsWeb has always done multipart digests though there are >>> different >>> > types of multipart and this one will look different to the >>> previous >>> > type. >>> > >>> > 2) AOL users see the multipart digests as attachments. This is an >>> > AOL view and how their software manages things. >>> > >>> > 3) RootsWeb's email will still be text only, there is an oft use >>> term >>> > 'plain text' which has been carelessly ascribed and confuses >>> matters. >>> > All RootsWeb's mailing lists are plain text, and will not contain >>> > binary attachments. >>> > [Note that I will not go into depth about semantics about >>> attachments >>> > as it can be quite a discussion and sometimes a discussion >>> comparing >>> > apples and oranges]. >>> > >>> > 3) I change subscribers to the multipart form from the flat >>> digest, >>> > if anyone wishes to be changed to the flat digest form, then >>> please >>> > contact me by the email address IRL-CORK-admin@rootsweb.com and I >>> > will change you over. Note that those who have spoken have been >>> > changed over. >>> > >>> > 4) If you wish to change the format of a digest for another list >>> then >>> > please contact the respective list admin by modifying the generic >>> > address LISTNAME-admin@rootsweb.com >>> > >>> > 5) RootsWeb is looking at allowing users to have more direct >>> control >>> > of their subscriptions and better blending this into the MyAccount >>> > https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/signin >>> > system, and the new software allows this to happen then the old >>> > software system. This all just takes little steps and our little >>> bit >>> > here is patience. >>> > >>> > Regards Andrew >>> > List-admin IRL-CORK mailing list >>> > >>> > >>> > On 10 Sep 2006 at 9:15, Donal O'Kelly wrote: >>> > >>> >> I believe digest posts has always arrived in batches of >>> attachments. >>> >> >>> >> There has been talk about the ability for US to attach files to >>> our >>> >> listmail >>> >> posts, but I have no direct word from Rootsweb on that. >>> >> >>> >> It would be better I think to set back and check out anything that >>> sounds >>> >> like rumor. Many people on this list understands the part of the >>> system >>> >> we >>> >> work with every day, but we don't know what other goodies we will >>> have >>> >> when >>> >> the whole process begins to properly work. >>> >> >>> >> Meanwhile RW is working 24-7 to put out little brushfires with the >>> new >>> >> list >>> >> format, as we all know. >>> >> >>> >> As list admins we will take care of each problem one by one until >>> the >>> >> whole >>> >> system works together. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks all and have a great day. >>> >> >>> >> Donal O'Collaugh O'Kelly >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "padraigogealagain" <padraigogealagain@rogers.com> >>> >> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com>; <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>; >>> >> <IRL-Limerick@rootsweb.com>; <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> >>> >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:54 AM >>> >> Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] IRL-CORK Digest,Attachments now being >>> sent >>> >> with >>> >> these ? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > Yes, I asked the same question of the Admin. person at Co.Clare >>> - but I >>> >> > didn't get an answer - probably because she's still on holidays >>> in >>> >> > Ireland. >>> >> > You'll have to ask Mr. Billingsworth, The List Admin. >>> >> > The recent changes that Rootsweb introduced , seems to have this >>> about. >>> >> > My >>> >> > positive thought was - Great! Rootsweb are now allowing >>> attachments to >>> >> > be >>> >> > sent to Lists - but I don't think so. Although it would be a >>> good idea >>> >> > in >>> >> > that we could send Scans of genealogical items, such as >>> certificates of >>> >> > B.D.M's. to the List. >>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> > From: <EAlt117@aol.com> >>> >> > To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> >>> >> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:30 AM >>> >> > Subject: Re: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 1, Issue 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/444 - Release Date: 9/11/2006 >> >> > >