Something in Ed's posting made me think - has anybody else noticed that very often in marriages made in the mid 19th century in rural Ireland, and perhaps especially in Munster, the witnesses seemed to be the couple's fathers. This was the case in my family and I wondered if anyone else has come across this at all. Would it be a case of an arranged marriage?? I realise that one has to be careful as there would have been brothers with the same names as the fathers, but I have seen definite cases of fathers acting as witnesses to a marriage, and it seems likely that this is the case with James Donoghue and Honoria Long, i.e. Jeremiah / Dermot Donoghue and John Long. Mary On 24 Feb 2009, at 19:51, [email protected] wrote: > Just re-posting interests in one of my family lines and wondering if > there are any others researching the same area ? > > One of my great grandfathers was Jeremiah Donoghue(Donohue, > Donahue)...the predominant spelling seems to be Donoghue but I've seen > the surname spelled in other ways as well. > > If my research is correct, Jeremiah's parents were James Donoghue and > Honoria(Nora)Long. Thanks to Father John Kennelly, I have the marriage > record of James and Honora. The marriage took place in the Catholic > Church of Causeway on March 4, 1862. Witnesses to the marriage were > John > Long and Jeremiah Donoghue. Apparently, there are two Churches which > form the Parish of Causeway. One is in Ballyduff and the other in > Causeway. Dromartin is closer to Ballyduff but it's not clear which > Church was the site of the marriage. > > James and Honora/Honora/Hanora had at least six children only one of > whom emigrated to the US so far as I've found. My great grandfather > Jeremiah who was born on December 9, 1865 ultimately left Dromartin for > Holyoke, Massachusetts where he met and married my great grandmother, > Catherine Barrett. The other siblings were John, Johanna, Ellen > Margaret > and James. I have the baptismal records of John who was born on April > 12, 1867 and baptized on April 17, 1867 and Margaret who was born on > March 30, 1875 and baptized on April 10, 1875. The sponsors at John's > baptism were Maurice Hussey and Margaret Carroll while the sponsors for > Margaret were Jeremiah Donoghue and Johanna Sheehy. The births of > Ellen(1871), Johanna(1868) and James(1872) are listed in the > IGI(British > Isles). The entire family except for my great grandfather who emigrated > and my great great grandmother( died between 1875 and 1901 as a guess) > are listed in the 1901 census for Ireland as still living in Dromartin. > > I also have the baptismal record of James Donoghue( March 15, 1835) and > the record of Honora Long( August 21, 1836). Parents of James were > listed as Dermot Donoghue and Mary Sullivan and the sponsors were James > and Catherine Cronesberry. Parents listed for Honora were John Long > and > Ellen McCarthy while the sponsor was Gobnait Fitzgerald. > > This is all I know of the Donoghue and Long family. I'd like to know > more about the parents and siblings of my great grandfather and great > grandmother and I'd like to determine whether they remained in Ireland > or if any others of the family emigrated. > > If anyone is researching that area of North Kerry, I'd also like to > hear > from them. > > Thanks in advance... > > Ed O'Connor > Hudson,MA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >