Dear Brendan Just read you excellent piece in the O' Donoghue journal, and wanted to say thanks for all your very good advice. And would just like to reiterate to everyone starting on this - please do as much groundwork ' at home ' as you possibly can, pester each and any relative possible for whatever info you can get hold of, you will need it! But treat it with caution, some family stuff is written by the fairies...... In my father's family, we knew EXACTLY - down to the very fields and lane - that they came from, and the family history was indoctrinated into us, but even so, it has been a long slog to find hard documented evidence, baptismal and marriage records etc., and they turned up some surprises! One of the ' family stories ' repeated over and over by parents, aunts and uncles etc., was of a dispossession, occurring in the early 1880s, which I now believe may have been part of the Land Wars in that part of Cork. Or even the end of a fixed lease, perhaps a Lease of Life or similar. But the family is not happy with that, dispossession being much more romantic. Only access to the Earl of Bandon's Estate Papers would sort this one out. I did find the advertisement for the land that my great grandfather purchased in early 1877 from the Representative Body of the Church of Ireland, and perhaps the details might be found in their archives - if they have survived..... Next stop is digging into the Tithe Applotment records - another visit to Dublin! And if anybody else complains about being charged for research - try a few hours in front of old, faded, almost indecipherable microfilm, to see what it does for your eyesight let alone your sanity - and as for old paper records....... And that is all AFTER you have found out where to do the digging! Keep up all the good work, Mary

Hi Mary, The Land Commission was set up in early 1880's and granted 15 year leases to certain tenants, if you had a sitting tenant they refused the lease, your family may have been refused a lease. The Valuation Office have records from Griffiths on, in the Cancelled Land Books, they list the people who owned the land, tenants etc, they also list if a lease was granted in 1880's, you will find a blue stamp on the record. Brendan ----- "Mary Simpson" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Brendan > > Just read you excellent piece in the O' Donoghue journal, and wanted > > to say thanks for all your very good advice. > > And would just like to reiterate to everyone starting on this - > please do as much groundwork ' at home ' as you possibly can, pester > > each and any relative possible for whatever info you can get hold of, > > you will need it! But treat it with caution, some family stuff is > written by the fairies...... > > In my father's family, we knew EXACTLY - down to the very fields and > > lane - that they came from, and the family history was indoctrinated > > into us, but even so, it has been a long slog to find hard documented > > evidence, baptismal and marriage records etc., and they turned up some > > surprises! > > One of the ' family stories ' repeated over and over by parents, > aunts > and uncles etc., was of a dispossession, occurring in the early 1880s, > > which I now believe may have been part of the Land Wars in that part > of > Cork. Or even the end of a fixed lease, perhaps a Lease of Life or > similar. But the family is not happy with that, dispossession being > much more romantic. Only access to the Earl of Bandon's Estate Papers > > would sort this one out. I did find the advertisement for the land > that my great grandfather purchased in early 1877 from the > Representative Body of the Church of Ireland, and perhaps the details > > might be found in their archives - if they have survived..... > > Next stop is digging into the Tithe Applotment records - another > visit to Dublin! > > And if anybody else complains about being charged for research - try > > a few hours in front of old, faded, almost indecipherable microfilm, > to > see what it does for your eyesight let alone your sanity - and as > for > old paper records....... And that is all AFTER you have found out > where to do the digging! > > Keep up all the good work, > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message