Hi Mary - have not seen this much in parish registers but have at least two Irish birth registrations which do not give the forename of the child. I am fairly sure from later records that the children lived, so obviously had not decided on a name by the time for registration. As to ages, one of Irish my great grandmothers aged 20 yrs between the 1901 census and 1911 - the age of the other does not match her supposed birthdate at all, being about 5 years older than she should be. Makes life interesting!! Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:50 AM Subject: Baptism searches > May I try and trawl other's collective experience / and / or knowledge? > > Has anyone out there, when researching parish registers, whether > on-line or in the archives, had experience of a child not having been > named on an entry? Rather being entered as " son or daughter - or > child - of xxxx ( usually father's name only ) " ?? I have come > across this with Scottish parish registers but don't know whether or > not it happens with Irish registers also. > > It sometimes makes confirmation of a particular person that you are > looking for difficult if they are registered without a first name. > > Also, whilst I do know that we are instructed to view all given ages > with a lot of scepticism, and the normal thing to do is to assume that > the people concerned were older - sometimes a lot older - than we > had believed, has anyone any experience of somebody actually being > younger? > > And in the Irish marriage registers - especially for the early to mid > 1800s, were the couple youngsters, say in the 18 - 24 age group, or > did they marry later in age? I know that by the end of the 1800s and > into the early 1900s, people seemed to be a bit older - especially the > men ( what with waiting for the farm etc., ) but I am wondering if it > was more normal that they were youngsters. > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There was a wonderful increase in the ages of many people in 1908 on the introduction of the State general old age pension (so that they could qualify for the pension). I saw some analysis some time. In Ireland we had a much higher proportion of age qualifying individuals in 1908 than did other parts of the UK. This may have been linked to the fact that registration of Births did not become mandatory until 1864. There are old yarns about claimants being asked how old they were on The Night of the Big Wind which I think was in 1839 This may why the lady aged prematurely -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patricia O'Shea Sent: 08 June 2009 04:32 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Baptism searches Hi Mary - have not seen this much in parish registers but have at least two Irish birth registrations which do not give the forename of the child. I am fairly sure from later records that the children lived, so obviously had not decided on a name by the time for registration. As to ages, one of Irish my great grandmothers aged 20 yrs between the 1901 census and 1911 - the age of the other does not match her supposed birthdate at all, being about 5 years older than she should be. Makes life interesting!! Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:50 AM Subject: Baptism searches > May I try and trawl other's collective experience / and / or knowledge? > > Has anyone out there, when researching parish registers, whether > on-line or in the archives, had experience of a child not having been > named on an entry? Rather being entered as " son or daughter - or > child - of xxxx ( usually father's name only ) " ?? I have come > across this with Scottish parish registers but don't know whether or > not it happens with Irish registers also. > > It sometimes makes confirmation of a particular person that you are > looking for difficult if they are registered without a first name. > > Also, whilst I do know that we are instructed to view all given ages > with a lot of scepticism, and the normal thing to do is to assume that > the people concerned were older - sometimes a lot older - than we > had believed, has anyone any experience of somebody actually being > younger? > > And in the Irish marriage registers - especially for the early to mid > 1800s, were the couple youngsters, say in the 18 - 24 age group, or > did they marry later in age? I know that by the end of the 1800s and > into the early 1900s, people seemed to be a bit older - especially the > men ( what with waiting for the farm etc., ) but I am wondering if it > was more normal that they were youngsters. > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message