Electoral divisions fall into particular Registrars Districts for the census.? To make Irish genealogy even more confusing, that Registrar's District will correspond with the Poor Law Union designation.? I have a book that breaks down the EDs for all the townlands, so if you want, feel free to email me with the name of your townland and the PLU that it is in, and I will be glad to look up the ED for that particular townland.? Please note that I travel for one of my jobs, and responses can sometimes be several days in coming if I am on the road. However, the online version of the 1911 Cork census at the National Archives allows for searching by specific surname and is free to use.? The Irish Family History website, which I suspect you are using, allows for searching by surname, within a specific DED, and then costs to view the census.? It may be more practical for you to head to the National Archives site and use the free version of the census there!? Currently, the site has the 1911 census up for Antrim, Cork, Donegal,?Down, Dublin, Galway, Kerry, King's Co., and Wexford.? Several others are slated to come up in mid to late July, including Limerick and I believe Tipperary.? Go to www.census.nationalarchives.ie to search what they do have. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2009 3:00 am Subject: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 4, Issue 173 Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Mallow] TWISS/RADLEY (Dennis Ahern) 2. DEDs (Mary Simpson) 3. Re: DEDs (Sharon Haggerty) 4. Re: Parish maps ([email protected]) 5. problems with Comcast for some ISP's (Jan Kenney Fortado) Attached Message From: Dennis Ahern <[email protected]> To: Lorraine Egan <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Mallow] TWISS/RADLEY Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:22:19 -0400 The Mallow Index, at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlmahs/midxr.htm list two Radleys in the 1926 Postal Directory for Mallow. There was an F. I. Radley listed as manager of the Provincial Bank and an H. Radley, Painter, at Davis Cottages.? ? And http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlmahs/midxt.htm has five entries for Twiss, including a Garret Twiss in the 1766 list of inhabitants of Mallow.? ? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -? Dennis Ahern | Mallow Archaeological & Historical Society? Acton, Massachusetts | Mr. John Caplice, Dromore, Mallow, Co. Cork? [email protected] | http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmahs/? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -? ? Attached Message From: Mary Simpson <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; Rootsweb Cork <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: DEDs Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:35:15 +0100 Am having a bit of trouble searching the 1911 census - does anybody know where you can access on-line, maps of the DEDs i.e the Electoral Divisions for counties??? ? I know the townlands that I want to search, and the civil parishes that they are in, but don't always know which DED they would fall into.? ? If you wish to browse the 1911 on-line census, it puts up a long list of DEDs, but how to know which one you want??? Mary? ? two steps forward, three and a half back, one sideways.......... ?? Attached Message From: Sharon Haggerty <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DEDs Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:12:16 -0700 Go to http://seanruad.com/? The category "Poor law union" is equivalent to the DED? ? Sharon? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Simpson" <[email protected]>? To: <[email protected]>; "Rootsweb Cork" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>? Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:35 AM? Subject: DEDs? ? > Am having a bit of trouble searching the 1911 census - does anybody? > know where you can access on-line, maps of the DEDs i.e the Electoral? > Divisions for counties??? >? > I know the townlands that I want to search, and the civil parishes that? > they are in, but don't always know which DED they would fall into.? >? > If you wish to browse the 1911 on-line census, it puts up a long list? > of DEDs, but how to know which one you want??? > Mary? >? > two steps forward, three and a half back, one sideways..........? >? >? >? > -------------------------------? > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ? Attached Message From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: Parish maps Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:57:52 EDT Sheila writes: === I did try that years ago but was not satisfied with the accuracy of the overlay. I have the first edition of Mitchell's book, and maybe the quality of the maps has improved since. === (I occasionally get chastised for communicating off-list........when listers feel I should be putting it "all" on the list. Well, here's your chance to see just how boring much of my letter-writing can be.) Sheila, I have been surprised in the opposite direction......just how precise and accurate BM's maps really are. Here's a blurb (with additions) I wrote several years ago on this matter. ............................................................................ .................... A few years ago, I made transparencies of all of the Republic's civil parish maps in the NGAI, and then took them into my photo darkroom and spent quite a few days projecting them onto the series of Discovery maps and tracing the parish border outlines onto the maps, using a highlighter. It was quite a job - 2400 plus parishes, and the maps in the Atlas are all different scales (Carlow is as large as Galway !!). Depending on the desired degree of precision, a simple Photoshop or copy machine scale alteration may not be good enough. As civil parishes follow townland boundaries, and probably 80 percent of townland borders coincide with rivers and streams, it is possible to compensate for any distortions induced by the nature of the small maps when they are projected onto the Discovery maps. I discovered (that's what Discovery maps are for [gr]) that even when the scale was correct, there were still some instances where a bit of stretching and shifting of the Disc. map relative to the transparency was necessary before I could properly position the outline of a given civil parish. If this sounds a bit obsessive-compulsive (it probably is), it's because I felt that if I were going to spend that much time on the job, I ought to do it right the first time. I use the Disc. maps many times a day, and usually use the civil parish outlines as starting-points for searches. I wouldn't be with these modified maps, now. I doubt if the borders shown for the RC parish maps are so rigorous as the CP maps, as there were apparently constant changes being made to the religious parishes over the decades. In any case, I feel that my maps, with the civil parishes drawn-in, plus all of the other annotations, glosses, page references from various books - and even entire descriptions inked-in in fine print........I really don't think there would be any room for the RC parishes [gr]. I tend to content myself with comparing the RC and the civil parish maps from the Atlas, side by side (I have both editions of the Atlas), and go from there as a basis for defining the RC parish coverage. Everytime I use these Discovery maps with the civil parishes drawn-in, I am amazed that such apparent inconsistencies as the little "bumps" that don't follow the usual river boundaries, etc., and look like errors in Mitchell's maps.......turn-out to be accurate when I compare with the Townland Index maps (which show all of the townland boundaries in the 26 counties). In short, I'd vouch for all of this civil parish maps and for their accuracy.....and precision. Pete .................................................... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML> Attached Message From: Jan Kenney Fortado <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: problems with Comcast for some ISP's Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:40:55 -0400 For those on the list with Comcast, you might not be able to receive any emails from the ISP eircom.net.? ? It was explained to me that Comcast will not accept email from ISP's that do not have adequate filters to keep out viruses. I was not able to correspond with anyone who had an eircom address for over a year. Recently, one email did get through. Perhaps eircom has added more filters. In any case, if I want to correspond with anyone who has an eircom address, I give my hotmail address to them. That always works. Comcast also does not accept mail from optusnet.com (Australia).? ? I share this information because sometimes people with an eircom address try to contact someone with a comcast address and do not realize their message did not get through. At least optusnet gives a warning. There might be some valuable family information that is lost because of this situation.? ? Jan ? 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