I'm not familiar with "Clonmel". My family came from Clonakilty in county Cork. I do not know of any Williams or Bowles. Sorry! Marion Ganzel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billeye" <billeye@optusnet.com.au> To: <WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com>; <BOWLES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:12 AM Subject: MARRIAGE OF WILLIAMS AND BOWLES OF CLONMEL > G'day Folks, > > > I am researching some of my GGGrandparents who apparently came to > Australia in the 1840s, I have one side of the family and am now > endeavouring to locate records for the other. > > These people are a John WILLIAMS who has been described as an Artillery > Officer and Gardener and his wife Susanna BOWLES who would have married > about 1822. All records found in Oz indicate that the family came from > Clonmel and I have documents showing that three daughters definitely > came from Clonmel. Surviving children from the marriage were Elizabeth, > Margaret, Ann, John and Thomas Bowles WILLIAMS. > > Susanna BOWLES' parents were Thomas and Mary (SIMPSON) but I do not have > any idea as to the parents of John WILLIAMS. I have located what appear > to be burials for these at St Mary's C of I, Clonmel. Their ages at > death indicate that Thomas was born abt 1763 and Mary three years later. > Mary died in 1833 and Thomas in 1841. > > If John was an Artillery Officer then he may not have come from Clonmel, > or Ireland for that matter, and was part of the Military Garrison there. > > This is all so new to me, for years I researched my family line without > an Irish connection and then suddenly I was confronted by not only this > WILLIAMS family but also another separate line from Co Armagh. Needless > to say my research and geography knowledge of Ireland needed to improve > rather rapidly. > > Hoping that someone my be able to assist in finding the marriage and > origins of the above people. > > Thanks, > > Bill Iggleden > Melbourne, Oz > > -- > Maybe we have so long ridiculed authority in the family and discipline in > education and decency in conduct and law in the state that the freedom we > fought so hard for has brought us close to chaos. And it could be that our > leaders no longer understand the relationship between themselves and the > people they lead. > > ~ Legendary football coach Vince Lombardi (1913 - 1970) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks anyway Marion.....Clonmel sits on the border of Tipperary and Waterford, midway between Waterford and Tipperary. I involved CORK due to the "lead" of the name Thomas from that Co. Bill On 21/08/2010 12:22 AM, Ms Marion Ganzel wrote: > I'm not familiar with "Clonmel". My family came from Clonakilty in county > Cork. I do not know of any Williams or Bowles. > Sorry! > Marion Ganzel > > >