thank you all for your reply, however, I find I have a unique set of circumstances. I am in Florida, The lived in NYC, in more than 10 years of searching records, genealogy sites etc, hireing researchers and checking with the NYC diocese as to where the certificate might be of a church closed where grandmother ( then a widow w/ 3 children) lived in 1900 according to census. I have NO relatives to ask and Father left no documents or info about his parents. I was just curious as to how I would apply. Apparently, without grandparent USA info I cannot. I have been to Ireland in 2002 and did get to see the town/city that my Grandmother lived and surrounding area. And managed to get her baptismal cert record. She left Ireland approx. 1880 with her brother, her Mother came later. She married in the 1880's, had 8 children, only 3 alive when she became a widow, and later married my grandfather, about 1900-1901. Other than the 1900 census of NYC and 1910 census she is not in any documentation! No licenses were required back in those times there-fore no city record. Church in area where the census was taken in 1900 closed, St. Patricks' Diocese barely any help as to finding where a record might be. Calls to various churches in NYC area, where she supposedly lived and where they lived later after they married have found nothing. GRandparents died long before I was born, and no documents found since.

Pat, Have you asked the Diocesean Office where the family lived in New York if they have an Archives for Diocesan Records? Here in Ohio our Diocese has an archives office that holds the records from closed parishes or at least can tell us where records are now kept if they are held at another parish. Good luck in your search. Jean On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Pat Lewis <carmodyp@bellsouth.net> wrote: > thank you all for your reply, however, I find I have a unique set of > circumstances. I am in Florida, The lived in NYC, in more than 10 years > of searching records, genealogy sites etc, hireing researchers and > checking with the NYC diocese as to where the certificate might be of > a church closed where grandmother ( then a widow w/ 3 children) lived > in 1900 according to census. I have NO relatives to ask and Father > left no documents or info about his parents. > I was just curious as to how I would apply. Apparently, without > grandparent USA info I cannot. > > I have been to Ireland in 2002 and did get to see the town/city that my > Grandmother lived and surrounding area. And managed to get her > baptismal cert record. She left Ireland approx. 1880 with her brother, > her Mother came later. She married in the 1880's, had 8 children, only > 3 alive when she became a widow, and later married my grandfather, > about 1900-1901. Other than the 1900 census of NYC and 1910 census she > is not in any documentation! > No licenses were required back in those times there-fore no city > record. Church in area where the census was taken in 1900 closed, St. > Patricks' Diocese barely any help as to finding where a record might > be. Calls to various churches in NYC area, where she supposedly lived > and where they lived later after they married have found nothing. > GRandparents died long before I was born, and no documents found > since. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I got a list of churches for NY at www.geocties.com/~agiroux/nychurch.htm This list churches for Manahattan,Brooklyn,Queens.  It's not the list that says where record were moved to.  I will get that name.  If you don't have the name maybe you figure which one by address. Jackie ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Lewis <carmodyp@bellsouth.net> To: county cork <irl-cork@rootsweb.com>; CLARE IRL IRL <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 2:08:35 PM Subject: Citizenship and grandparents marriage research question thank you  all for your reply, however, I find I have a unique set of circumstances. I am in Florida, The lived in NYC, in more than 10 years of searching records, genealogy sites etc, hireing researchers  and checking with the NYC diocese as to where the  certificate might be  of a church closed where grandmother  ( then a widow w/ 3 children) lived in 1900 according to census. I have NO relatives  to ask and  Father left no documents or info about his parents. I was just curious as to how I would apply. Apparently,  without  grandparent USA info I cannot. I have been to Ireland in 2002 and did get to see the town/city that my Grandmother lived and surrounding area. And managed to get her baptismal cert record. She left Ireland approx. 1880 with  her brother, her Mother came later. She married in the 1880's, had 8 children, only 3 alive when she became a widow, and later married my grandfather, about 1900-1901. Other than the 1900 census of NYC and 1910 census  she is not in any documentation! No licenses were required back in those times there-fore no city record. Church in area where the census was taken in 1900 closed, St. Patricks' Diocese barely any help as to finding where a record might be. Calls to various churches in NYC area, where she supposedly lived and where they lived later after they married  have found nothing. GRandparents died long before I was born, and  no documents found  since. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message