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    1. Re: drowning between Tralee and Schull
    2. Caroline & Eugene Nolan
    3. Hi I did not find anything on Lewis Williams, but I did find a reference on a Welsh website about the 1851 census which shows the following: Jane Davies, Penrhiw, a mariner's wife, had five children at the time of the Census. Her long life spanned the period from Waterloo to Mafeking, and James her husband lived to be 86, but two of their sons were lost at sea: John, a baby of 9 months in 1851, drowned at Queens- town (Cork) thirty years later and a son, James, born in 1852, drowned in 1884 on a voyage from Tralee to Schull. The website address for the excerpt is: http://welshjournals.llgc.org.uk/browse/viewpage/llgc-id:1093205/llgc-id:1097087/llgc-id:1097421/getText And although I don't have a current subscription, I browsed irishtimes.com which shows headlines even if you don't have a paid subscription and it appears that there were terrible storms in February 1884 which might have a bearing? Regards Caroline ____________________________ >> >>> Hello >>> I'm trying to establish how a member of my ancestral family drowned >>> between Tralee and Schull on the 9th February 1884 whilst a crew member >>> on >>> a vessel . Unfortunately I don't have the name of the ship . All I have >>> is >>> the inscription on the family gravestone naming him as Lewis Williams >>> aged >>> 14 ys ,drowned between the places mentioned above .It did imply that his >>> body wasn't recovered . He came from Newuay ,Cardiganshire Wales . >>> Does anyone know of any shipping disasters for that time and in the >>> areas >>> mentioned or any newspaper report of the drowning ? >>> many thanks >>> Buddug Hollett

    09/06/2010 06:15:04
    1. Re: drowning between Tralee and Schull
    2. Buddug Hollett
    3. Hi Many thanks indeed for your email . I've checked the website and it really does make interesting reading to me as I was born in the New Quay area myself and some of my ancestors were there and in the area in 1851. However ,what was most interesting in the article ,although tragic, was the report of the drowning of the person in 1884 in the same place .This might mean that the vessel went down or hit rocks etc rather than an accidental drowning . I would also think that there must be some welsh newspaper report of the incident somwhere especially that there were 2 drownings at least both from the same area . I would imagine as well that the the ship would perhaps have been a local ship to the area . Once again , many thanks regards, Buddug Hollett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline & Eugene Nolan" <cenolan@eircom.net> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:15 PM Subject: Re: drowning between Tralee and Schull > Hi > > I did not find anything on Lewis Williams, but I did find a reference on a > Welsh website about the 1851 census which shows the following: > > Jane Davies, Penrhiw, a mariner's wife, had five children at the > time of the Census. Her long life spanned the period from Waterloo to > Mafeking, and James her husband lived to be 86, but two of their sons > were lost at sea: John, a baby of 9 months in 1851, drowned at Queens- > town (Cork) thirty years later and a son, James, born in 1852, drowned > in 1884 on a voyage from Tralee to Schull. > > The website address for the excerpt is: > http://welshjournals.llgc.org.uk/browse/viewpage/llgc-id:1093205/llgc-id:1097087/llgc-id:1097421/getText > > And although I don't have a current subscription, I browsed irishtimes.com > which shows headlines even if you don't have a paid subscription and it > appears that there were terrible storms in February 1884 which might have > a > bearing? > > Regards > Caroline > > ____________________________ > >>> >>>> Hello >>>> I'm trying to establish how a member of my ancestral family drowned >>>> between Tralee and Schull on the 9th February 1884 whilst a crew member >>>> on >>>> a vessel . Unfortunately I don't have the name of the ship . All I have >>>> is >>>> the inscription on the family gravestone naming him as Lewis Williams >>>> aged >>>> 14 ys ,drowned between the places mentioned above .It did imply that >>>> his >>>> body wasn't recovered . He came from Newuay ,Cardiganshire Wales . >>>> Does anyone know of any shipping disasters for that time and in the >>>> areas >>>> mentioned or any newspaper report of the drowning ? >>>> many thanks >>>> Buddug Hollett > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/06/2010 06:58:09