Hello, Someone has just reminded me that he had found the death record of Mrs. Catherine Mary (SMITH) FITZGERALD from 1893 in Boston, MA. And, it showed her mother's maiden name as GUDILEY or CUDILEY (sp?). I've never seen that surname before and wondered whether others know about it. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (A reminder from my other postings that Catherine Mary SMITH was born in Ireland in ~1855, and she married in Boston, MA, in 1881. Her husband was John H. FITZGERALD, who was born in Ireland in ~1858 (possibly in Co. Cork). I don't know when they migrated to MA/US, and I don't know if they traveled alone.)

What is the site? Jack On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Patricia wrote: > I have the same problem. My GrGf was born in Cork ca. 1807-1815, > with brothers born in 1795 and 1800-1809. I have yet to find a > church record for any of them. There are some Cork records from the > 1700's on the site, but there's never been a "hit" to my relatives. > I'm still waiting for the western and southern Cork records to > post. In the meantime, I try not to drive myself crazy over these > early records...chances are they disintegrated from being handled/ > moved around. > > Happy hunting, > Trish Daly > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Could someone please send me the web address for these records. Thank you very much..A Canadian Irishman''Irishlady" Rita On 9/20/2010 10:48 AM, Jan wrote: > Mary, if you go to the very top of the home page, click onto "site map. Some > topics will come up, including, > "Update of progress on the computerisation of the records." Supposedly the > records will be on by the end of 2010. I know it took longer than expected > for census records to come online. I am hoping there will be no big delay > with these records. I keep checking too because I am waiting for > Drimoleague records (West Cork area) to come online. > Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To our Mapleleaf neighbor: For West Cork & Cork City + (FREE) http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/index.html and For Cloyne Diocese (some free info records pay) http://www.rootsireland.ie/ JOhn On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Rita Offer <ritaoffer@gmail.com> wrote: > Could someone please send me the web address for these records. > Thank you very much..A Canadian Irishman''Irishlady" > Rita > > On 9/20/2010 10:48 AM, Jan wrote: > > Mary, if you go to the very top of the home page, click onto "site map. > Some > > topics will come up, including, > > "Update of progress on the computerisation of the records." Supposedly > the > > records will be on by the end of 2010. I know it took longer than > expected > > for census records to come online. I am hoping there will be no big delay > > with these records. I keep checking too because I am waiting for > > Drimoleague records (West Cork area) to come online. > > Jan > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Trish - what townland and surname are you looking for? I have 150 pages of parish records for West Cork - from around Skibbereen and Baltimore. Barbara in St. Louis, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 12:13 PM To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Old Parish Records in Cork I have the same problem.  My GrGf was born in Cork ca. 1807-1815, with brothers born in 1795 and 1800-1809.  I have yet to find a church record for any of them.  There are some Cork records from the 1700's on the site, but there's never been a "hit" to my relatives.  I'm still waiting for the western and southern Cork records to post.  In the meantime, I try not to drive myself crazy over these early records...chances are they disintegrated from being handled/moved around.    Happy hunting, Trish Daly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My experience may be a fluke, but--look at info posted with different first names. I found a marriage record for Patrick Nash of Grillagh in Cork and Johanna Dwyer on Nov 26, 1836 (my Patrick Nash married Margaret Dwyer). Then, I found the baptism of Catherine Nash, daughter of Patrick Nash of Grillagh and Margaret Dwyer on Dec 12, 1836, with a notation that she was born in wedlock but just barely. And in the same parish, a baptism for John Patrick Nash June 1, 1838, son of Patrick Nash and Margaret Dwyer, John Patrick was born May 20, 1838 and came to the US with his parents in 1845. Had it not been for the baptism of Catherine I would never have thought that Patrick and Johanna were my ancestors! So look at people have the right surname but a different first name. Mary Slack Maynard North Georgia Mountains In a message dated 9/20/2010 1:14:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dalytoo@sbcglobal.net writes: I have the same problem. My GrGf was born in Cork ca. 1807-1815, with brothers born in 1795 and 1800-1809. I have yet to find a church record for any of them. There are some Cork records from the 1700's on the site, but there's never been a "hit" to my relatives. I'm still waiting for the western and southern Cork records to post. In the meantime, I try not to drive myself crazy over these early records...chances are they disintegrated from being handled/moved around. Happy hunting, Trish Daly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lori Lyn Price to speak Merrimack Valley Chapter members on Sat. Sept. 25th at 10 AM at the Lawrence History Center, 6 Essex St. Lawrence,MA. Lori Lyn Price, a professional genealogical speaker in the Boston area, focuses on connecting with your ancestors via social history-- an aspect of genealogy that brings your ancestors' traditions and culture to life. She has been working on her personal genealogy for over ten years and is currently working on a graduate degree in history from the Harvard Extension School. She loves sharing her knowledge and passion of both genealogy and history with others. Her website iswww.bridgingthepast.com Lori's topic is : Genealogy in your Pajamas: Put your Library Card to Use Did you know that as a Massachusetts resident you have free access to the Boston Public Library’s online resources? If your town library is associated with the Minuteman system, you can also access some of their online resources from the comfort of your own home. We will cover the electronic genealogical resources available through the Boston Public Library and some of the more popular resources that might be available through your local library (each library decideswhich databases they will carry). Hope to see everyone at our First Fall Meeting! Public is welcome! Karen Trearchis, President MV Chapter and Recording Secretary of MSOG

Oh ya and with the Riordan there are so many of them all over Ireland!!! ________________________________ From: Patricia <dalytoo@sbcglobal.net> To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 1:13:15 PM Subject: Re: Old Parish Records in Cork I have the same problem.  My GrGf was born in Cork ca. 1807-1815, with brothers born in 1795 and 1800-1809.  I have yet to find a church record for any of them.  There are some Cork records from the 1700's on the site, but there's never been a "hit" to my relatives.  I'm still waiting for the western and southern Cork records to post.  In the meantime, I try not to drive myself crazy over these early records...chances are they disintegrated from being handled/moved around.    Happy hunting, Trish Daly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the same problem.  My GrGf was born in Cork ca. 1807-1815, with brothers born in 1795 and 1800-1809.  I have yet to find a church record for any of them.  There are some Cork records from the 1700's on the site, but there's never been a "hit" to my relatives.  I'm still waiting for the western and southern Cork records to post.  In the meantime, I try not to drive myself crazy over these early records...chances are they disintegrated from being handled/moved around.    Happy hunting, Trish Daly

To add to Jan's comment. I have noticed that they have posted a summary of what record and time periods that they do have have posted. This is fairly new so they have not gone to sleep. Something is moving there. So we wait patiently. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Jan <janfortado@comcast.net> wrote: > Mary, if you go to the very top of the home page, click onto "site map. > Some > topics will come up, including, > "Update of progress on the computerisation of the records." Supposedly the > records will be on by the end of 2010. I know it took longer than expected > for census records to come online. I am hoping there will be no big delay > with these records. I keep checking too because I am waiting for > Drimoleague records (West Cork area) to come online. > Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary, if you go to the very top of the home page, click onto "site map. Some topics will come up, including, "Update of progress on the computerisation of the records." Supposedly the records will be on by the end of 2010. I know it took longer than expected for census records to come online. I am hoping there will be no big delay with these records. I keep checking too because I am waiting for Drimoleague records (West Cork area) to come online. Jan

Does anybody know if they are going to put more Old Parish Records online on the www.irishgenealogy.ie website? I know that we mustn't cavil and that it is marvellous to have all the records already put on it, but any word on the rest of the OPRs? Specifically the West Cork records. It's been very quiet lately..... Mary

I am new to this list and would like to know "how old are the Old Parish Records" of which you refer. I have a G Grandfather that left Ireland in 1825 and his future wife left in 1850..they had 5 children in Canada. On his death certificate it states that he was from Cork, Ireland. Where would I even start to search since Cork County is huge!!!! I have just discovered that he also had a brother John who was two years younger and he brought his wife and one son with him. Our records only start here about 1881/1891 and then jump to 1901 and 1911 but I need the info on where he was born to trace him back further. Can anyone help by pointing me in the right direction??? The name I am looking for is O'Callaghan. I am proud of my Irish Roots and want to uncover more. Thanks Rita (O'Callaghan) Offer On 9/19/2010 10:27 AM, marysimpson wrote: > Does anybody know if they are going to put more Old Parish Records > online on the www.irishgenealogy.ie website? > > I know that we mustn't cavil and that it is marvellous to have all the > records already put on it, but any word on the rest of the OPRs? > Specifically the West Cork records. > > It's been very quiet lately..... > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I have just joined this List because for a month I've been attempting to create a family-tree for a large FITZGERALD family in Massachusetts that we are close to. I've been posting queries and looking on-line and asking members of that family. Helpful researchers in New England have found more information for me. I don't have time this morning to offer a lot of information, so I'll just mention the Ireland part of the story. As of last night, I can take the family back to Michael FITZGERALD and Julia PHELAN in County Cork, possibly in Rosscarbery. Before yesterday, I could only go back to John H. FITZGERALD, b~1858 in County Cork. I don't know when he migrated to Massachusetts. All I know is that in Boston 5/19/1881 he married Catherine Mary SMITH, she b.~1855 Ireland. The marriage record showed the above parents, and then Catherine's parents as Michael and Julia (?) SMITH. (Some records have the wife as Mary SMITH.) I don't know anything about the SMITH family or when Catherine migrated to Massachusetts. I believe that John H. and Catherine (SMITH) FITZGERALD only had 2 children, a son Michael Albert FITZGERALD, b1882 in Boston, and a son, John T. or F. FITZGERALD, b1887 in Boston. The parents both died in Boston in 1893 (epidemic or something?). The 1900 census had the 2 sons living with a COSTELLO family in Stoneham, MA. From 1910 to 1930 the 2 brothers remained close. Michael married Ella BLAKELEY, and had 4 children but then divorced ~1918. John married Margaret ADAMS and lived in Stoneham, MA. Our friends are descended from Michael and Ella (Michael might have had the nickname, "Al," as his older son did. How many children Michael and Ella had is a mystery. Probably ~1921 in Cambridge, MA, Ella remarried to Thomas J. "Jack" KELLEY. Jack might have adopted Ella's 2 younger children, and Ella's 2 older sons did not have with them. Then Jack and Ella might have had 4 children of their own. Ella's EX, Mike or "Al" did remarry to a Hazel (?), but nothing is known about them, and he seems to have been estranged from the family. His grandchildren know nothing about him. But, they did know their "Grammy Kelley" who lived near them, and they considered her KELLEY children as their uncles and aunts. Thank you for your time. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) FYI: The Fitzgerald family always believed they were somehow connected to the famous, former Mayor in Boston, John F. "Honey Fitz" FITZGERALD, father of Mrs. Rose KENNEDY. But, from books and articles and on-line investigating, and I don't believe they are. Important researchers have his ancestors going back to County Limerick. So, I think it is just a coincidence that both FITZGERALD families in Boston in late 1800's had a child, named John Francis Fitzgerald. By the way, I took a quick look in the archives of the Board and List last night, and saw many postings about the FITZGERALD name. ( on Lists for almost 9 yrs.; now an Admin for 9 Lists, including GAVIN, CORKILL, CAN-USA-Migration, and the brand-new CHILD-MIGRANTS-UK )

Jackie Thank you for your offer. This is an offshoot of my German side so I am quite startled to be back in the same area as all my Irish began. Here we go: >From *Irish Genealogy* site I found in Dromtariff Parish, Diocese of Kerry: Marriage of JAMES KELIHER of NR and MARY CRONIN of GURRANE on 19 June 1859 Baptism of HONORA KELIHER of RATHCOOLE on 22 January 1860 , dau of James Keliher & Mary Cronin. I am suspecting this Honora Keliher married Patrick Jones of Feakle, County Clare on 6 Jun 1881 in St Peter & Paul's of Cork City. One son Michael's baptism has been found in St Peter & Paul's of Cork City in 1884. We are missing the baptism of the eldest: Mary Josephine Jones, dau of Pat & Honora Mary (Keliher) Jones born 1882-83. *Any help on this Keliher/Cronin/Jones family would be much appreciated. * This Jones family came to NYC shortly after 1884 and Patrick and sons were very prominent in NY School system and athletic adminstration. The eldest daughter Mary Josephine married one of my Steitz. Most appreciated John Steitz also Buckley, Scannell On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Jackie Sullivan <jackieneal1@yahoo.com>wrote: > Dromtariff ciil parish RC Parish Drommtariff, Diocese A an A earliest > records b > 2.1832;m 1.1832 address Dromagh, Mallow, Co Cork > Civil Parish: Killaha, RC Parish Glenflesk: Diocese of A and A: earliest > records:b 9.1821m 2.1831 address Station Road Headfort, Co Kerry. > > I have trwo Casey books and if you give me naames and about year they might > be > in book. Who married who or brothers and sisters. i will try over the > weeken > to do it but in pain and going into hospitl the 27th. > JACKIE SULLIVAN > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: John Steitz <john.steitz@gmail.com> > To: Pete Scherm <petescherm@aol.com>; irl-cork <IRL-cork@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 10:32:04 AM > Subject: Dromtarriff RC Parish > > I have 2 records that cite a birth and baptism in Dromtarriff RC Parish in > County Kerry. The 2 address are listed as Gurrane and Rathcoole. The date > range was 1858-1860. > > I have searched maps but cannot find these locations. I understand that > Dromtarriff RC Parish is the easternmost point of County Kerry. It is just > west of Milstreet, County Cork. > > There are several issues involved here Dromtarriff may also be known as > Glenflesk RC Parish depending on which map you choose. I believe this > parish > spills over into County Cork but cannot proove as I still could not find > those two addresses within a reasonable distance to the border. Dromtariff > RC Parish roughly coincides with Killaha, civil parish in County Kerry. > > Can anyone provide some insight into this one for me here? Thanks in > advance. > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John writes: === I have 2 records that cite a birth and baptism in Dromtarriff RC Parish in County Kerry. The 2 address are listed as Gurrane and Rathcoole. === I have time for only a quick response now (I'll give it more time later today or tomorrow). I suspect this is the Diocese of Kerry, and not the County of Kerry. Dromtarrife RC parish (in the mid-1800's) was located entirely in Co. Cork, to the N and NE of Millstreet town. The village and townland of Rathcool is a bit more than 4 miles NE of Millstreet, and is about a mile south of the River Blackwater. Along the north bank of the River, to the WNW of Rathcool village, is the townland of Garrane South. The companion townlands of Garrane West and Garrane North are connected with Garrane South, to the west and north (not surprisingly [gr]). These townlands are all in Dromtarriff civil parish, which forms a part of Dromtarrife RC parish. I'll get back to you with more, if I think I have more to offer..... later. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

I have 2 records that cite a birth and baptism in Dromtarriff RC Parish in County Kerry. The 2 address are listed as Gurrane and Rathcoole. The date range was 1858-1860. I have searched maps but cannot find these locations. I understand that Dromtarriff RC Parish is the easternmost point of County Kerry. It is just west of Milstreet, County Cork. There are several issues involved here Dromtarriff may also be known as Glenflesk RC Parish depending on which map you choose. I believe this parish spills over into County Cork but cannot proove as I still could not find those two addresses within a reasonable distance to the border. Dromtariff RC Parish roughly coincides with Killaha, civil parish in County Kerry. Can anyone provide some insight into this one for me here? Thanks in advance. John

Dromtariff ciil parish RC Parish Drommtariff, Diocese A an A earliest records b 2.1832;m 1.1832 address Dromagh, Mallow, Co Cork Civil Parish: Killaha, RC Parish Glenflesk:  Diocese of A and A: earliest records:b 9.1821m 2.1831 address Station Road Headfort, Co Kerry. I have trwo Casey books and if you give me naames and about year they might be in book.  Who married who or brothers and sisters.   i will try over the weeken to do it but in pain and going into hospitl the 27th. JACKIE SULLIVAN ----- Original Message ---- From: John Steitz <john.steitz@gmail.com> To: Pete Scherm <petescherm@aol.com>; irl-cork <IRL-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 10:32:04 AM Subject: Dromtarriff RC Parish I have 2 records that cite a birth and baptism in Dromtarriff RC Parish in County Kerry. The 2 address are listed as Gurrane and Rathcoole. The date range was 1858-1860. I have searched maps but cannot find these locations. I understand that Dromtarriff RC Parish is the easternmost point of County Kerry. It is just west of Milstreet, County Cork. There are several issues involved here Dromtarriff may also be known as Glenflesk RC Parish depending on which map you choose. I believe this parish spills over into County Cork but cannot proove as I still could not find those two addresses within a reasonable distance to the border. Dromtariff RC Parish roughly coincides with Killaha, civil parish in County Kerry. Can anyone provide some insight into this one for me here? Thanks in advance. John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>Geocities was shut down by Yahoo in October 2009. Any site not moved by >the owner was destroyed. Anytime you get a Page Not Found error, go to http://www.archive.org and enter the missing url in their search engine. -dja

I have the same list with no luck as to where church is.. On Sep 15, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Michael Kenefick wrote: > Geocities was shut down by Yahoo in October 2009. Any site not moved > by the owner was destroyed. > > Now, someone tried to copy all the information from Geocities pages to > http://www.reocities.com/~agiroux/nychurch.htm but it appears to have > not worked completely. It also appears that the neighborhood and > "address" may be missing from the link. Some geocities sites used the > owners "~alias". With that information may actually be on the > reocities > site. > > Finally, I though you would be able to get a static copy from > web.archive.org. But I just checked and it is not listed on that site > as well. This could be due to the possibly missing neighborhood and > address. Maybe a google search will find its new hiding spot. > > PS: I only just learned of reocities today. Someone found one of my > old > pages and was asking a question. > > Mike in Ohio > > On 09/15/2010 07:01 PM, Jackie Sullivan wrote: >> I got a list of churches for NY at >> www.geocties.com/~agiroux/nychurch.htm >> This list churches for Manahattan,Brooklyn,Queens. It's not the list >> that says >> where record were moved to. I will get that name. If you don't have >> the name >> maybe you figure which one by address. >> Jackie > ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Lewis <carmodyp@bellsouth.net> > To: > county cork <irl-cork@rootsweb.com>; CLARE IRL IRL > <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 2:08:35 PM > Subject: Citizenship and grandparents marriage research question thank > you all for your reply, however, I find I have a unique set of > circumstances. I am in Florida, The lived in NYC, in more than 10 years > of searching records, genealogy sites etc, hireing researchers and > checking with the NYC diocese as to where the certificate might be of > a church closed where grandmother ( then a widow w/ 3 children) lived > in 1900 according to census. I have NO relatives to ask and Father > left no documents or info about his parents. I was just curious as to > how I would apply. Apparently, without grandparent USA info I cannot. > I have been to Ireland in 2002 and did get to see the town/city that my > Grandmother lived and surrounding area. And managed to get her > baptismal > cert record. She left Ireland approx. 1880 with her brother, her > Mother > came later. She married in the 1880's, had 8 children, only 3 alive > when > she became a widow, and later married my grandfather, about 1900-1901. > Other than the 1900 census of NYC and 1910 census she is not in any > documentation! No licenses were required back in those times there-fore > no city record. Church in area where the census was taken in 1900 > closed, St. Patricks' Diocese barely any help as to finding where a > record might be. Calls to various churches in NYC area, where she > supposedly lived and where they lived later after they married have > found nothing. GRandparents died long before I was born, and no > documents found since. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe > from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from > the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with > the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >