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    1. Re: IRL-CORK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 217
    2. Patricia
    3. <<I did find rellies but it sends you to find my past in England/Wales a paying site.>>   It is a great site, but not all the info is free.    I think this LDS site (Church of Latter Day Saints/Mormon) only prints what they have copies of, and certain US Census years.  Other agencies may have proprietary rights to the info that LDS has "indexed", so LDS can't print that info.    If you sign up for a free account with familysearch, you get access to more images, I believe, but not all are free.  In Cleveland, OH, the libraries subscribe to "Ancestry.com", and "Footnote" and you get free access at the library location.    Regards, Trish

    10/11/2010 02:45:19
    1. Re:
    2. Thanks for the update. I did find rellies but it sends you to find my past in England/Wales a paying site. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Priscilla Haines" <phaines@digis.net> To: NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com, "LUNEN-Links" <LUNEN-LINKS-L@rootsweb.com>, dodge@rootsweb.com, blake@rootsweb.com, nickerson@rootsweb.com, irl-cork@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 12:05:20 AM Beta.familysearch.org has been updated, millions of images have been added to online records from eight countries including the first Chinese collection, 20 million indexed records have been published for Civil War and Revolutionary War collections and the 1851 Census for England and Wales and the 1930 census indexing continues, according to news releases from FamilySearch.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/10/2010 06:40:50
    1. Priscilla Haines
    2. Beta.familysearch.org has been updated, millions of images have been added to online records from eight countries including the first Chinese collection, 20 million indexed records have been published for Civil War and Revolutionary War collections and the 1851 Census for England and Wales and the 1930 census indexing continues, according to news releases from FamilySearch.

    10/09/2010 04:05:20
    1. Re: Townlands: Searchable OS BW 6" series maps. Once again.
    2. Mary
    3. This is the best historic map URL I have ever seen. Thankyou Colman Ahern for putting it on the list. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colman Ahern" <CAhern49@dslextreme.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:48 AM Subject: Re: Townlands: Searchable OS BW 6" series maps. Once again. > The ones I included with with my post of course! Here they are again, > if they don't open from the email try the list archives. > > Colman Ahern > Berkeley, Calif. > > http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0 > http://shop.osi.ie/Shop/Products/Default.aspx#historic > www.placenames.ie <http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0> > > On 10/7/2010 7:17 PM, Pat Lewis wrote: >> what links? >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:26 PM, PeteScherm@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Colman, >>> >>> === The below links are for online OS maps of Ireland. === >>> >>> Thanks for the info on the OS site viewer. I have seen it mentioned >>> before, but for me, it's not practical. I'm on a slow dial-up (max 37 >>> kbps) with >>> an old operating system (Win98) and I've never been able to make those >>> sites >>> work for me. I have been able to compensate for some of the counties >>> - - - >>> 6 counties' six-inch maps in PDFs on CDs, 5 counties' six-inch maps >>> with a >>> combined CD-county library website program, and several other counties >>> which >>> use the six-inch maps on their County Council Planning websites. But >>> nothing yet for Cork. I'm sure others - with a faster connection - >>> will be >>> pleased with the OS website. I'll just keep "clunking along" with the >>> tools >>> available to me, I guess [gr]. Thanks again. >>> >>> >>> Pete >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>> Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western >>> Massachusetts >>> </HTML> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/09/2010 04:08:27
    1. Re: Townlands: Searchable OS BW 6" series maps. Once again.
    2. Colman Ahern
    3. The ones I included with with my post of course! Here they are again, if they don't open from the email try the list archives. Colman Ahern Berkeley, Calif. http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0 http://shop.osi.ie/Shop/Products/Default.aspx#historic www.placenames.ie <http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0> On 10/7/2010 7:17 PM, Pat Lewis wrote: > what links? > > > On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:26 PM, PeteScherm@aol.com wrote: > >> Colman, >> >> === The below links are for online OS maps of Ireland. === >> >> Thanks for the info on the OS site viewer. I have seen it mentioned >> before, but for me, it's not practical. I'm on a slow dial-up (max 37 >> kbps) with >> an old operating system (Win98) and I've never been able to make those >> sites >> work for me. I have been able to compensate for some of the counties >> - - - >> 6 counties' six-inch maps in PDFs on CDs, 5 counties' six-inch maps >> with a >> combined CD-county library website program, and several other counties >> which >> use the six-inch maps on their County Council Planning websites. But >> nothing yet for Cork. I'm sure others - with a faster connection - >> will be >> pleased with the OS website. I'll just keep "clunking along" with the >> tools >> available to me, I guess [gr]. Thanks again. >> >> >> Pete >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western >> Massachusetts >> </HTML> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/08/2010 07:48:06
    1. Re: Townlands: Searchable OS BW 6" series maps.
    2. Pat Lewis
    3. what links? On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:26 PM, PeteScherm@aol.com wrote: > Colman, > > === The below links are for online OS maps of Ireland. === > > Thanks for the info on the OS site viewer. I have seen it mentioned > before, but for me, it's not practical. I'm on a slow dial-up (max 37 > kbps) with > an old operating system (Win98) and I've never been able to make those > sites > work for me. I have been able to compensate for some of the counties > - - - > 6 counties' six-inch maps in PDFs on CDs, 5 counties' six-inch maps > with a > combined CD-county library website program, and several other counties > which > use the six-inch maps on their County Council Planning websites. But > nothing yet for Cork. I'm sure others - with a faster connection - > will be > pleased with the OS website. I'll just keep "clunking along" with the > tools > available to me, I guess [gr]. Thanks again. > > > Pete > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western > Massachusetts > </HTML> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/07/2010 04:17:09
    1. Re: Townlands: Searchable OS BW 6" series maps.
    2. Colman, === The below links are for online OS maps of Ireland. === Thanks for the info on the OS site viewer. I have seen it mentioned before, but for me, it's not practical. I'm on a slow dial-up (max 37 kbps) with an old operating system (Win98) and I've never been able to make those sites work for me. I have been able to compensate for some of the counties - - - 6 counties' six-inch maps in PDFs on CDs, 5 counties' six-inch maps with a combined CD-county library website program, and several other counties which use the six-inch maps on their County Council Planning websites. But nothing yet for Cork. I'm sure others - with a faster connection - will be pleased with the OS website. I'll just keep "clunking along" with the tools available to me, I guess [gr]. Thanks again. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

    10/07/2010 01:26:24
    1. Re: Townlands: Searchable OS BW 6" series maps.
    2. Colman Ahern
    3. Peter or others, Try sending an email to Eamon Lankford at the placenames website, he may be able to help for more obscure placenames. He's a cousin of mine and has been working for several years on the place names project. www.placenames.ie The below links are for online OS maps of Ireland. A lister had posted this link some time age, it is very useful and should be bookmarked. The first has online searchable maps, the positioning and enlarging of any particular area takes a bit of practice. If you want the old 6" per mile series click on its link first and then enlarge and position as needed. I tried Dunmanway, the detail is quite good. If the publicviewer link won't work as I posted it try the second one and click on Map Viewer. http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0 http://shop.osi.ie/Shop/Products/Default.aspx#historic Colman Ahern. Berkeley Calif. On 10/4/2010 9:37 AM, PeteScherm@aol.com wrote: > Patsy wrote: > > === The lister Maggie mentioned is, I think, Pete who signs himself Peter > Scherm - he has great knowledge of townlands and his views would be worth > having on this. === > > Jan (the original writer) and I have gone through this particular placename > search since Feb. 2007 [gr], including my looking at an image of the > document. I tentatively read it as "Dromilesheen". At that time, I had gone > through the townland listings, Townland Index maps, the names given to some of > the 249 undefined burial grounds (mostly Children's Burial Grounds - Cilliní) > and the 948 identified - and often named - ringforts (raths, lisheens). > Nothing there. > > No villages with a suitable name seem to appear on the Discovery maps. I > have recently communicated to Jan what I think are the next best sources to > examine (and which I don't have access to). At the website: > www.placenames.ie there are references to a unique collection of volumes of Cork > placenames, which are available only in Cork City. The other possibility would > be the six-inch maps of the area. I don't have access to any of these for > Co. Cork, but the probable numbers of the OS maps for Dunmanway RC parish > would be 93/4, 106/7/8, 120/1. It's possible that Drumlisheen (or such) is just > a local "sub-division" or settlement within a townland. > > That's about the extent of our investigation, thus far. Perhaps someone > has access to these six-inch maps and could take a look for Jan (!!). > > > > Pete > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > </HTML> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/07/2010 07:30:32
    1. Re: Townland (mis ) spellings in OPRs
    2. Mary wrote: === Ideas welcomed on the " correct " version of a townland that appears in the Ballinhassig / Ballinhassig Goggin's Hill, Ballyheady & Ballygarvan parish as BALLINLOHO and BALLINATOHD There is a townland Ballynaouhy, also a Ballyhooleen in this parish......... === Mary, I assume that an "l" was missing in the first townland, and it should be Ballynalouhy. And that would seem to me to be your most likely location. Ballynaloughy has a mile-long border along its North side with Skehanagh townland, and a 3/4-mile border on its West side with Farlistown. Ballyhooleen is a couple of miles to the NNW. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

    10/07/2010 01:48:06
    1. Maggie the Dub - townland
    2. Jan
    3. Yes, I realize that Dromilisheen is in the RC parish of Dunmanway. I had listed several marriages on my original request - all from the RC parish of Dunmanway. My question: Where is this townland located today?

    10/06/2010 02:32:45
    1. Townland (mis ) spellings in OPRs
    2. marysimpson
    3. Ideas welcomed on the " correct " version of a townland that appears in the Ballinhassig / Ballinhassig Goggin's Hill, Ballyheady & Ballygarvan parish as BALLINLOHO and BALLINATOHD There is a townland Ballynaouhy, also a Ballyhooleen in this parish, and if anything I think that it is the former, the only other place that I can think of is Ballinlough in southeast Cork city, just north of Douglas, but this place is far from the parish. This townland is mentioned in a baptismal entry of a HONORA McCARTHY in Oct 1875 in BALLINLOHO. Her father was JOHN McCARTHY, and her mother BRIDGET MURPHY, sponsors Thomas O' Flaherty ( the O' Flahertys were the National School Teachers in Ballyhooleen ) and Catherine Horgan. This couple married in 1873; JOHN McCARTHY and Bridget Murphy, both of Rigsdale, witnessed by Thomas O' Flaherty again and Hannah McCarthy. Also a marriage in August 1876 between JOHN McCARTHY of BALLINTOHD and HENRIETTA COLLINS of Coolatuder, witnessed by John Barry and Mary Kearney. And a son born to them, DENIS McCARTHY of Keilaminogue, baptised September 1877, sponsors Jeremiah Collins and Margaret Daly. John died in September 1900 and Henrietta appears in the 1901 census in Farlistown, and 1911 census on her own land in Skehanagh along with Denis and her other children who were born too late to be included on the parish register that appear online. I am interested in all this because I'm 99% certain that the second John is my g grandfather's youngest brother, but the witness / sponsor to the first John, Thomas O'Flaherty is also intriguing as his family is also related to ours and a Michael O'Flaherty was witness in my g grandparents, JEREMIAH McCARTHY and CATHERINE CALLAGHAN 's wedding in Ballyheady in 1867. So we have two John McCarthys from different townlands but with connections. I also am certain, from other examples, that the place mentioned in a marriage register is not necessarily the place that that person was born. As you can imagine, sorting out the McCarthy branches in this neck of the woods is quite a challenge........... Mary

    10/06/2010 05:51:09
    1. townland - Pat
    2. Jan
    3. Pat, you wrote: Try this search string in Google. Be sure to be exact.?A possibility for you appeared. Also, consider drom* ? cork ~townland (drum*) Was I supposed to put in - cork ~townland (drum*) I am not sure what townland you saw. If you could tell me which web site had a possibility for Dromilisheen/Droumlisheen etc. that would be great! Thanks, Jan

    10/05/2010 12:50:15
    1. Hanley and Spillane
    2. Margaret Doyle
    3. Hello, Anyone searching for Spillane? I found a John Hanley B. 1866 on the lds site whose mothers name is Francis Spillane. There's a possibility this John Hanley could be me other half's ggfathers brother as himself has been told that he's related to Mickey Spillane, the actor. Granfather Patrick Hanley is reportedly from Ardpatrick. Any input, however small is appreciated. Maggie the Dub

    10/05/2010 08:53:29
    1. Dromilisheen
    2. Margaret Doyle
    3. Dromilisheen is in the R.C. Parish of Dunmanway. This is what I got when I googled 'Dromilisheen Ireland' Maggie the Dub

    10/05/2010 07:21:01
    1. Re: Cork Examiner Archives
    2. SandyY
    3. Hi Jenny No, apparently he was brought over to be the Music Director for St Patrick's RC Cathedral, however it was knocked down to make way for a larger building, so he was the organist for St Francis' Cathedral instead, until his death in 1864. (Hmmmmm - I have just found two children of his married at St Mary's, Kilda by the Very Revd Dr Corbett in 1886. My James' children were baptised Ch of Ireland, so this requires a bit more investigation on my part.) Regards Sandra Jenny Stiles wrote: > Hi Sandra, > Would that be St James Cathedral in Melbourne? If so, my 3 X Great > Grandfather Rev Michael Henry Becher was incumbent there from 1861 to 1883, > so they would have known each other. > > > >

    10/05/2010 03:36:07
    1. Re: Cork Examiner Archives
    2. Jenny Stiles
    3. Hi Sandra, Would that be St James Cathedral in Melbourne? If so, my 3 X Great Grandfather Rev Michael Henry Becher was incumbent there from 1861 to 1883, so they would have known each other. >From Jenny, Sydney, Australia My Family History Website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "SandyY" <sandyyd@tpg.com.au> To: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> Cc: "TG Wilkinson" <tgwilkinson@hotmail.com>; <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Cork Examiner Archives > Hello Dennis > > Thank you so much for these transcripts - I am in the middle of breaking > down one of my biggest brick walls! Yesterday I also found out from a > cathedral in Melbourne that Wm Augustus Wilkinson was brought out from > Dublin to be the organist at a cathedral there. > > > Thanks again for your help, > Cheers > Sandra, Brisbane Aust. >

    10/05/2010 02:53:23
    1. Re: Re Townlands
    2. Mary
    3. Just a follow on from my last email......Have found aThomas Mullins with his parents and siblings in Anglesborough in Limerick for my friend in the 1901 Census . Just heard from him that he thinks this is the right family. Also a big bonus as I have found my grandparents Sheehy with my Mum aged 13 and her siblings in the 1901 Census of Kerry. I had not been able to find them before so feeling very happy today.. It is so good when we find our ancestors isnt it? That troublesome brick wall is starting to get holes in it at last..Back to do more searching. Regards, Mary in sunny North Queensland where the sugar cane harvest is going again after weeks of rain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <mcjm52@bigpond.com> To: <IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:48 PM Subject: Re Townlands > Thanks for that seanruad site folks. Just found a townland for a friend. > I have been looking for a Englesboro which was written as his > grandsfathers birthplace. > Of course it was Anglesborough in Limerick. > > Great site. Thanks again. Now to look for the birth of Thomas Mullins born > about 1888 and find other members of his family. > > Kind regards, > > Mary

    10/05/2010 02:32:50
    1. Re: Cork Examiner Archives
    2. SandyY
    3. Hello Dennis Thank you so much for these transcripts - I am in the middle of breaking down one of my biggest brick walls! Yesterday I also found out from a cathedral in Melbourne that Wm Augustus Wilkinson was brought out from Dublin to be the organist at a cathedral there. By way of explanation.......I feel he may be the uncle of my Thomas Scott Wilkinson WELSBY- son of James WILKINSON of Baggot St.. Thomas also played music and taught piano under the name of Wilkinson in the wilds of Queensland - and was lost in the bush. (I'm lucky to be here! :) Don't know why he sometimes used the name Welsby. Thanks to Irish Genealogy, I found he had a sister - Ellen Welsby WILKINSON. (Oh.... the mystery of it all.) Thanks again for your help, Cheers Sandra, Brisbane Aust. Dennis Ahern wrote: > SandyY <sandyyd@tpg.com.au> asked on the Cork list: > >> Does anyone have access to the actual archives of the Cork Examiner, >> please? ........................ especially for the first William >> WILKINSON whom I believe is probably related to my 3xgt grandfather, >> James Wilkinson (They operated a Musical Academy together at one >> time in the 1840s and WAW emigrated to Melbourne.) >

    10/05/2010 12:59:56
    1. Re Townlands
    2. Mary
    3. Thanks for that seanruad site folks. Just found a townland for a friend. I have been looking for a Englesboro which was written as his grandsfathers birthplace. Of course it was Anglesborough in Limerick. Great site. Thanks again. Now to look for the birth of Thomas Mullins born about 1888 and find other members of his family. Kind regards, Mary

    10/04/2010 04:48:36
    1. Re: Townlands
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. Hi John, I notice the original reference to this name mentions Dunmanaway as the parish. Looking on a list of townlands for Dunmanaway there is one possibility, which you may already have considered and discarded, and that is Derrylahan. I wonder if the priest abbreviated the name and it then looked like Dinlahan?? (or had bad handwriting!!) Just a thought. The lister Maggie mentioned is, I think, Pete who signs himself Peter Scherm - he has great knowledge of townlands and his views would be worth having on this. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Townlands > Thanks Patsy, > > I don't believe there is such a place as Dinlahan. The priest must have > been > somewhere else when he entered the information in the parish records. > > John...Sydney

    10/04/2010 04:45:26