Horgan is the most common spelling of this name. In the cities etc it is customary to pronounce the name as Horgan However in rural areas it is generally pronounced "horrigan" even when spelt "Horgan". In my view the "horrigan" pronunciation is closest to the original name in the Irish /Gaelic language. "Respectable" folk will insist the name is pronounced "Horgan". I guess it has been long and well established by usage. However the two are anglicized versions of the same Irish family name. The man from Killorglin was of course correct in saying what his people were called. But the same people could well and very possibly did spell it as Horgan. It is very unusual to find the Horrigan spelling in Ireland today. -----Original Message----- From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Ellen Rossi Sent: 03 December 2010 06:24 To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Irl-Cork] Hourigan family Hi Maureen!! I have some Cornelius' in my family tree but in my McCarthy line....My Horgan/Harrigan/Horrigan/Hourigan family line are from Killorglin, county Kerry and I have no information that goes back further than my gggrandfather Jeremiah Horgan/Horrigan/etc....I know that my ggrandfather,Patrick, who worked in the Peabody/Salem Mass leather industry was adamant that the family call themselves Horrigan, why he was adamant about this I don't know....but from what I know about the Irish naming system, there are no "Cornelius'" in my family tree....unless it the name of a "lesser" male relative....Jeremiah, then Joseph, then Patrick...this is all of the names that I know. Somewhere I have an email from another one of the Horgan/Hourigan/etc and I will, if I can find the link, send you her e-address. All the best, Mary Ellen --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Maureen Drake-Brockman <oneill1941@bigpond.com> wrote: > From: Maureen Drake-Brockman <oneill1941@bigpond.com> > Subject: [Irl-Cork] Hourigan family > To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 12:04 PM > Hello MaryEllen, > > Very interesed in your Hourigan family i have been looking > for  gg/father Cornelius Hourigan a farmer > from Cork . > > Maureen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello MaryEllen, Very interesed in your Hourigan family i have been looking for gg/father Cornelius Hourigan a farmer from Cork . Maureen

Dennis Cox <den49co@gmail.com> asked: >Where can I learn of Doneraile and its people of the first half of the >19th century? Doneraile is in the Poor Law Union of Mallow. If you go to the Mallow website and enter Doneraile in the site search engine you will find references to Doneraile information on the website and in the lists of contents in the Mallow Field Club Journal. You can also find lots of stories about life in Doneraile by going to the IrelandOldNews.com website and entering Doneraile in the search engine. See http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlmahs/ for some Doneraile links. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Mallow Archaeological & Historical Society Acton, Massachusetts | Mr. John Caplice, Dromore, Mallow, Co. Cork ahern@world.std.com | http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmahs/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hi Maureen!! I have some Cornelius' in my family tree but in my McCarthy line....My Horgan/Harrigan/Horrigan/Hourigan family line are from Killorglin, county Kerry and I have no information that goes back further than my gggrandfather Jeremiah Horgan/Horrigan/etc....I know that my ggrandfather,Patrick, who worked in the Peabody/Salem Mass leather industry was adamant that the family call themselves Horrigan, why he was adamant about this I don't know....but from what I know about the Irish naming system, there are no "Cornelius'" in my family tree....unless it the name of a "lesser" male relative....Jeremiah, then Joseph, then Patrick...this is all of the names that I know. Somewhere I have an email from another one of the Horgan/Hourigan/etc and I will, if I can find the link, send you her e-address. All the best, Mary Ellen --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Maureen Drake-Brockman <oneill1941@bigpond.com> wrote: > From: Maureen Drake-Brockman <oneill1941@bigpond.com> > Subject: [Irl-Cork] Hourigan family > To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 12:04 PM > Hello MaryEllen, > > Very interesed in your Hourigan family i have been looking > for  gg/father Cornelius Hourigan a farmer > from Cork . > > Maureen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Maureen, Welcome. If you want to send a message to the list, go right ahead, >From Jenny My Family History Website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~becher/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Drake-Brockman" <oneill1941@bigpond.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:20 AM Subject: [Irl-Cork] mailing list > Thank you for finally accepting me i would like to > > send a message to the mailing list. > > Maureen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

AHERN, James; 70; Cork City COR IRL>Pittsburg IN; Fort Wayne Sentinel; 1894-9-19 See http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/Other/1894/SEP.html#19 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Thank you for finally accepting me i would like to send a message to the mailing list. Maureen

There's a Thomas Lordan on the irishgeneology site-Cok+Ross area. Go to churchrecords on that site. When you click on the name, it will give you a little info, then click on the name again+more info comes up. Remember that transcribers only copied what they saw, in thier opinion, so you shouldn't limit yourself to one spelling. Maggie the Dub

Hi A reminder that messages likes this relating to the running of a list are not suitable messages that should be posted to the list. Such messages are best sent to IRL-CORK-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Doyle" <johnmaggie11@yahoo.co.uk> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:50 PM Subject: [Irl-Cork] Mime files/modes of email > Pete, I think the mode of email is due to the way you subscribed. > There is an L-mode + then some other mode which sends you single emails. > I'm not techno enough to explain this properly. I just know you will have > to unsubscribe to the list+then subscribe again using the preferred mode. > Maybe someone else who's much younger than me on the list can explain the > sub modes better? > Maggie the Dub > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have Collins and Lordans in my family, but they were from an area near Lough Hyne, just east of Baltimore in southwest County Cork. Barbara in St. Louis, Missouri USA -----Original Message----- From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Guthrie Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:54 PM To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Irl-Cork] Looking for LORDEN, COLLINS, MCCARTY Thanks Patsy---my problem is once I find a possibility I don't know what to do next!!!! -----Original Message----- From: irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia O'Shea Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:00 PM To: irl-cork@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Irl-Cork] Looking for LORDEN, COLLINS, MCCARTY Hi Chris - I'm sure you've already checked out this website: http://www.bandon-genealogy.com/ Lots of LORDAN/LORDENs there. As you know, naming patterns may help to narrow things down as well. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com http://cdkiwi.com Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: [Irl-Cork] Looking for LORDEN, COLLINS, MCCARTY >I have done some research on the family--all come from Cork. I have a > little information on John Collins and John McCarty, mostly from US > records, > but I do know they come from Cork. Now Thomas Lorden is one that is hard > to > find. I do know that he came from Cork (I think Bandon area) and was born > around 1839. Came over to USA in 1850's through Baltimore and somehow > landed in Hartland, Ill and married Mary McCarty. I have their entire > family in US, but no records show where he came from in Cork. > > CHRIS > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pete, I think the mode of email is due to the way you subscribed. There is an L-mode + then some other mode which sends you single emails. I'm not techno enough to explain this properly. I just know you will have to unsubscribe to the list+then subscribe again using the preferred mode. Maybe someone else who's much younger than me on the list can explain the sub modes better? Maggie the Dub

"Frank Mack" <frankm17@tpg.com.au> asked: >Can someone tell me what is the location of Whitechurch Townland, civil >Parish Whitechurch PLU Cork? I can't give you the location of the townland, but the civil parish of Whitechurch is between Mourneabbey to the north, Garrycloyne and Grenagh to the west, St. Mary's Shandon and St. Anne's Shandon to the south, and Killcully and Dunbolloge to the east. This is as best I can tell from the maps in "A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland" by Brian Mitchell. -dja

Colman, I am wondering how long ago they last did lookups for you and how did you sweet talk them to do so? I asked very nicely, a year or so ago and was informed they don`t have the staff or time to do any lookups, even when I had exact dates and info. Heather. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colman Ahern" <CAhern49@dslextreme.com> To: <irl-cork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Cork] Cork Examiner 1881 > The Cork County Library has the Cork Examiner on microfilm, link to > newspapers is on this webpage: > http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/web/Cork%20County%20Council/Departments/Library%20%26%20Arts%20Service/Find%20Your%20Local%20Library/County%20Library?did=578237124 > > Next link is to their Trace Your Ancestors info: > http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/web/Cork%20County%20Council/Departments/Library%20&%20Arts%20Service/Trace%20Your%20Ancestors?did=562604522 > <http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/web/Cork%20County%20Council/Departments/Library%20&%20Arts%20Service/Trace%20Your%20Ancestors?did=562604522> > > Try an email to the email address listed on that page. Or use the same > email address and send your request to Kiern Wyse who works in the same > department. Given a specific date and other necessary details, I have > found him to be very helpful in doing lookups and sending photocopies. > > Colman Ahern > Berkeley Calif. > > On 11/24/2010 7:19 PM, Alison Armstrong wrote: >> I hope someone can assist. >> >> >> >> I have used the Irish Death Notices index and have found reference to a >> death notice for a ( possible ) relative; Timothy Murphy, 83, of >> Mauhalaugh, >> Cork in the Cork Examiner on Oct 26 1881. >> >> Can anyone suggest how best to access this newspaper article ? >> >> >> >> I live in Australia and this newspaper is not stored in any Australian >> libraries or available online. >> >> >> >> I would welcome any suggestions. >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> >> Alison Armstrong >> >> alisona@netspace.net.au >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Why is this sent as a MIME file, to be downloaded? All of my other 58 Rootsweb list-digests are mailed to me as single extended e-mails, including all of the letters since the previous digest. And that is the way I need my Irl-Cork Digest to be sent, to be at all useful. Please make whatever change is necessary. Pete .................................................... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

A part of my DALY family is related to LaFOUNTAINE, who were French Huguenots.  Their history was very well documented, ad Jacques LaFountaine was a minister.  They lived in Corraigh, then on Beara Island, and finally in Dublin. One or more sons came to the US in the 1700s.   Regards, Trish 

The Cork County Library has the Cork Examiner on microfilm, link to newspapers is on this webpage: http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/web/Cork%20County%20Council/Departments/Library%20%26%20Arts%20Service/Find%20Your%20Local%20Library/County%20Library?did=578237124 Next link is to their Trace Your Ancestors info: http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/web/Cork%20County%20Council/Departments/Library%20&%20Arts%20Service/Trace%20Your%20Ancestors?did=562604522 <http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/web/Cork%20County%20Council/Departments/Library%20&%20Arts%20Service/Trace%20Your%20Ancestors?did=562604522> Try an email to the email address listed on that page. Or use the same email address and send your request to Kiern Wyse who works in the same department. Given a specific date and other necessary details, I have found him to be very helpful in doing lookups and sending photocopies. Colman Ahern Berkeley Calif. On 11/24/2010 7:19 PM, Alison Armstrong wrote: > I hope someone can assist. > > > > I have used the Irish Death Notices index and have found reference to a > death notice for a ( possible ) relative; Timothy Murphy, 83, of Mauhalaugh, > Cork in the Cork Examiner on Oct 26 1881. > > Can anyone suggest how best to access this newspaper article ? > > > > I live in Australia and this newspaper is not stored in any Australian > libraries or available online. > > > > I would welcome any suggestions. > > > > Thank you > > > > Alison Armstrong > > alisona@netspace.net.au > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, you're right, for the general public in Eire, a death notice is placed with a news paper, simply to let friends+relatives know what time the funeral will take place. Obits are written for the famous+ journalists and such. This is why death certs (GRO) + church records(National Library + irishgeneology ) are so much in demand. Maggie the Dub

Michael Kenefick <kenefick@copper.net> said: >Try http://www.rip.ie/. Alas, I have found that Irish / European death >notices are just that a notice. Very little information. >I may be wrong but it appears that our Irish / English brethren do not >publish an obituary similar to the USA. List, if I am wrong please point >myself in the right direction, as well. While the typical death notice in a 19th century Irish newspaper is often little more than a name and place of burial, there can often be found other snippets of information, such as age, address or townland, occupation, cause of death. For a look at typical death notices from 1757-1899, see http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~aherns/ahobits1.htm Also, be advised that the listings in the Irish Death Notice Database are not limited to obituaries, but include mentions of death by accident, suicide, homicide, and execution. Deaths which necessitate a hearing by a coroner's jury can be qute detailed as to who the perosn was and how they came by their demise. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Irish Death Notice Database ahern@world.std.com | http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Irelandoldnews is a good source. Maggie the Dub

I hope someone can assist. I have used the Irish Death Notices index and have found reference to a death notice for a ( possible ) relative; Timothy Murphy, 83, of Mauhalaugh, Cork in the Cork Examiner on Oct 26 1881. Can anyone suggest how best to access this newspaper article ? I live in Australia and this newspaper is not stored in any Australian libraries or available online. I would welcome any suggestions. Thank you Alison Armstrong alisona@netspace.net.au